Protein Shakes...

Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

I take it you mean muscle and not fat ??

hit the gym and using a managed program of weights you should be able to put on some bulk quite nicely, eventually build up to some heavier weights and lower reps to recruit those new muscle fibres or get on the bike and hit the big gears or hit the hills 🙂

I guess you could start using Protein shakes or just increase the amount of protein in your diet unless you can actually stomach those protein shakes.

thats the natural way...... any other tips ??

MikeyOz said:

Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

I take it you mean muscle and not fat ??

hit the gym and using a managed program of weights you should be able
to put on some bulk quite nicely, eventually build up to some heavier
weights and lower reps to recruit those new muscle fibres or get on the
bike and hit the big gears or hit the hills 🙂

I guess you could start using Protein shakes or just increase the
amount of protein in your diet unless you can actually stomach those
protein shakes.

thats the natural way...... any other tips ??

You'll get expensive [censored] ... your body can only metabolise a small
amount of protein daily. Protein shakes etc are very good for
making their vendors wealthy, and generally a waste of cash.

Any normal eating (with enough carbs to get you through the day)
will have more than enough protein in it. The only caveats being
timing and ratios of carb/protein and some of the trace amino
acids, but in general, don't waste your money.

MikeyOz said:

Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

I take it you mean muscle and not fat ??

hit the gym and using a managed program of weights you should be able
to put on some bulk quite nicely, eventually build up to some heavier
weights and lower reps to recruit those new muscle fibres or get on the
bike and hit the big gears or hit the hills 🙂

I guess you could start using Protein shakes or just increase the
amount of protein in your diet unless you can actually stomach those
protein shakes.

thats the natural way...... any other tips ??

Thanks, Mikey. I've been grinding away on the "big" gear now for a
couple of years and it's really given my leg muscles a nice defined
shape. That's all well and good (and I love the compliments :-) ) but
I'd like a little more bulk to what muscle I have. A friend that plays
rugby league suggested protein shakes as a way of increasing mass
using a regular tanning program. I'd always seen protein shakes as a
bit of a gimmick rather than anything of value. I was just interested
to hear people experiences with them and if they're worth the
money......and FOUL taste?

Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

So good you'll be total BEEFCAKE!

* Weight Gain 4000 courtesy of South Park.

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 11:50:14 +1100, Carl Brewer <[email hidden]>

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MikeyOz said:

Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

I take it you mean muscle and not fat ??

hit the gym and using a managed program of weights you should be able
to put on some bulk quite nicely, eventually build up to some heavier
weights and lower reps to recruit those new muscle fibres or get on the
bike and hit the big gears or hit the hills 🙂

I guess you could start using Protein shakes or just increase the
amount of protein in your diet unless you can actually stomach those
protein shakes.

thats the natural way...... any other tips ??

You'll get expensive [censored] ... your body can only metabolise a small
amount of protein daily. Protein shakes etc are very good for
making their vendors wealthy, and generally a waste of cash.

Any normal eating (with enough carbs to get you through the day)
will have more than enough protein in it. The only caveats being
timing and ratios of carb/protein and some of the trace amino
acids, but in general, don't waste your money.

Expensive [censored]? Like Corona? Sweet!

Jo said:

On Thu, 24 Feb 2005 08:50:48 +1100, MikeyOz

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Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

I take it you mean muscle and not fat ??

hit the gym and using a managed program of weights you should be able
to put on some bulk quite nicely, eventually build up to some heavier
weights and lower reps to recruit those new muscle fibres or get on the
bike and hit the big gears or hit the hills 🙂

I guess you could start using Protein shakes or just increase the
amount of protein in your diet unless you can actually stomach those
protein shakes.

thats the natural way...... any other tips ??

Thanks, Mikey. I've been grinding away on the "big" gear now for a
couple of years and it's really given my leg muscles a nice defined
shape. That's all well and good (and I love the compliments :-) ) but
I'd like a little more bulk to what muscle I have. A friend that plays
rugby league suggested protein shakes as a way of increasing mass
using a regular tanning program. I'd always seen protein shakes as a
bit of a gimmick rather than anything of value. I was just interested
to hear people experiences with them and if they're worth the
money......and FOUL taste?

There is a caveat (isn't there always?). Vegetarians, especially vegans, sometimes find it difficult to get enough essential amino acids in their normal diet. Animal products such as lean red meat, chicken and egg whites are excellent sources, hence the trouble for vegans. If you're not a vegetarian, you can probably get enough protein from a balanced diet: ie, don't require supplementation unless you want to be a serious body builder.

My advice, or at least, what I do, is save the money you would have spent on protein powders and go and buy some quality steak... mmmm steak.

Ritch

ritcho said:

egg whites are excellent sources, hence the trouble for vegans. If

Is the protein in eggs in the white or the yolk or both. I've found I
have a cholesterol problem and one of the few recommended things that I
don't already do is to avoid eggs. Now I'm pretty sure that is just the
yolks. My post BR recovery drink is a milkshake (low fat milk) with a
couple of scoops of milo and skim milk powder (the poor man's protein
drink), ice cream, and an egg for an extra protein kick. Will keeping
the egg white and dumping the yolk give me the protein without the
cholesterol?

DaveB "staring down the barrel of reducign chocolate input"

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ritcho said:

egg whites are excellent sources, hence the trouble for vegans. If

Is the protein in eggs in the white or the yolk or both. I've found I
have a cholesterol problem and one of the few recommended things that I
don't already do is to avoid eggs. Now I'm pretty sure that is just the
yolks. My post BR recovery drink is a milkshake (low fat milk) with a
couple of scoops of milo and skim milk powder (the poor man's protein
drink), ice cream, and an egg for an extra protein kick. Will keeping
the egg white and dumping the yolk give me the protein without the
cholesterol?

DaveB "staring down the barrel of reducign chocolate input"

short answer, its in both.

long answer
10% shell, 60%white, 30%yolk
yolk protein 17%, fat 31%, minerals 1%, water 52%
white protein 10%, fat 0%, minerals 0%, water 89%

i found this on net, so it must be true, right?
(i am sure there are others here that know much more about this sort of
thing)

The data suggests that egg intakes of up to 1 per day may have little
relationship to hypercholesterolaemia or increased CHD risk in the majority
of the population, with the potential exceptions being people with diabetes
and hyperlipidaemic individuals. Furthermore, up to 85% of the normal
population will be hypo-responders to dietary cholesterol, so plasma
cholesterol responses in the majority of individuals will already be
lessened.
http://www.aecl.org/public/content/aecl_consumers.asp?xcid=1207

they even have a protein shake
http://www.aecl.org/public/content/aecl_consumers.asp?xcid=515

ritcho said:

There is a caveat (isn't there always?). Vegetarians, especially
vegans, sometimes find it difficult to get enough essential amino acids
in their normal diet. Animal products such as lean red meat, chicken and
egg whites are excellent sources, hence the trouble for vegans. If
you're not a vegetarian, you can probably get enough protein from a
balanced diet: ie, don't require supplementation unless you want to be
a serious body builder.

Where's DRS gone? He always got down and dirty when it came to nutrition
talk, especially anything to do with protein.
Search this group for "DRS hippy protein" and you're likely to find
something useful/related to protein requirements.

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My advice, or at least, what I do, is save the money you would have
spent on protein powders and go and buy some quality steak... mmmm
steak.

There's an example in one of the AIS nutrition books (at home, can't
quote it yet) about this very comparison. IIRC the steak was a far, far
cheaper option for getting the same proteins/amino acids, etc..

hippy

There's usually one sure way to bring DRS out. ;-)

Parbs

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ritcho said:

There is a caveat (isn't there always?). Vegetarians, especially
vegans, sometimes find it difficult to get enough essential amino acids
in their normal diet. Animal products such as lean red meat, chicken and
egg whites are excellent sources, hence the trouble for vegans. If
you're not a vegetarian, you can probably get enough protein from a
balanced diet: ie, don't require supplementation unless you want to be
a serious body builder.

Where's DRS gone? He always got down and dirty when it came to nutrition
talk, especially anything to do with protein.
Search this group for "DRS hippy protein" and you're likely to find
something useful/related to protein requirements.

Quoted message said:

My advice, or at least, what I do, is save the money you would have
spent on protein powders and go and buy some quality steak... mmmm
steak.

There's an example in one of the AIS nutrition books (at home, can't
quote it yet) about this very comparison. IIRC the steak was a far, far
cheaper option for getting the same proteins/amino acids, etc..

hippy

ritcho said:

My advice, or at least, what I do, is save the money you would have spent on protein powders and go and buy some quality steak... mmmm steak.

Mythbusters busted the one about coke dissolving steak; pity, that would have been the perfect protein shake.

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MikeyOz said:

Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

I take it you mean muscle and not fat ??

hit the gym and using a managed program of weights you should be able
to put on some bulk quite nicely, eventually build up to some heavier
weights and lower reps to recruit those new muscle fibres or get on the
bike and hit the big gears or hit the hills 🙂

I guess you could start using Protein shakes or just increase the
amount of protein in your diet unless you can actually stomach those
protein shakes.

thats the natural way...... any other tips ??

You'll get expensive [censored] ... your body can only metabolise a small
amount of protein daily. Protein shakes etc are very good for
making their vendors wealthy, and generally a waste of cash.

Any normal eating (with enough carbs to get you through the day)
will have more than enough protein in it. The only caveats being
timing and ratios of carb/protein and some of the trace amino
acids, but in general, don't waste your money.

I find that protein shakes have helped me gain muscle mass. It is probably
mainly due to the timing that Carl mentioned as I find it easier to prepare
and stomach a protein shake immediately after a workout than balanced meal.
And btw, I like my shakes. I tend to add stuff like instant coffee or milo
for flavour 🙂...

stu said:

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ritcho said:

egg whites are excellent sources, hence the trouble for vegans. If

Is the protein in eggs in the white or the yolk or both. I've found
I have a cholesterol problem and one of the few recommended things
that I don't already do is to avoid eggs. Now I'm pretty sure that
is just the yolks. My post BR recovery drink is a milkshake (low
fat milk) with a couple of scoops of milo and skim milk powder (the
poor man's protein drink), ice cream, and an egg for an extra
protein kick. Will keeping the egg white and dumping the yolk give
me the protein without the cholesterol?

DaveB "staring down the barrel of reducign chocolate input"

short answer, its in both.

long answer
10% shell, 60%white, 30%yolk
yolk protein 17%, fat 31%, minerals 1%, water 52%
white protein 10%, fat 0%, minerals 0%, water 89%

SNIP

I got a bag of powdered egg whites as a freebie one time - apparently
it's very high in protein and is good as a bodybuilding supplement.
Doesn't dissolve very easily in water, but in a shake should work well.

I took it to New Zealand for bushwalking & cycle touring, but got it
confiscated by customs - d'oh!

Been a bit quiet of late, lets give the well tested DRS 'Summoning Ritual' another try. 😄

Parbs said:

There's usually one sure way to bring DRS out. ;-)

Parbs

Andrew Reddaway said:

I got a bag of powdered egg whites as a freebie one time - apparently
it's very high in protein and is good as a bodybuilding supplement.
Doesn't dissolve very easily in water, but in a shake should work well.

The other protein thread:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/aus.bicycle/browse_thread/thread/3f05027c925b7f77

Discusses Skim Milk Powder versus Whey protein, etc..

hippy

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Parbs Wrote:
There's usually one sure way to bring DRS out. ;-)

cfsmtb wrote:
Been a bit quiet of late, lets give the well tested DRS 'Summoning
Ritual' another try. 😄

You guys are evil! evil evil evil! 😉 :P

hippy

and why is that? 😉

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hippy wrote:
You guys are evil! evil evil evil! 😉 :P

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cfsmtb wrote:
Been a bit quiet of late, lets give the well tested DRS 'Summoning
Ritual' another try. 😄

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Parbs Wrote:
There's usually one sure way to bring DRS out. ;-)

Jo said:

I'm trying to put on a little extra bulk and was wondering if protein
shakes are any good? TIA

They're a waste of money. You probably already eat much more
protein than you can use, and natural sources are far cheaper
(not to mention more nutritious) sources of it.

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LMAO

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and why is that? 😉

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hippy wrote:
You guys are evil! evil evil evil! 😉 :P

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cfsmtb wrote:
Been a bit quiet of late, lets give the well tested DRS 'Summoning
Ritual' another try. 😄

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> Parbs Wrote:
>There's usually one sure way to bring DRS out. ;-)
>