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  1. This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more and
    more people are turning to alternative medicine. Notice the
    buzz words like *scientific evidence* *evidence based
    medicine* *best scientific research* *medical evidence* that
    the majority of voters want...those same words that put the
    voo doo medicine proponents to sleep.

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    information (74%)
    * Reforming medical malpractice (72%)
    * Encouraging doctors to base treatment on the best
    scientific research (70%)
    * Encouraging doctors to incorporate uniform
    standards of medical evidence (70%)
    * Establishing tax-free health care savings
    accounts (63%)
    * Using medical evidence to evaluate every new
    health care law (56%) [...]
    * medical malpractice reform
    * using medical evidence to improve quality
    * reducing medical errors
    * putting information about doctors and hospitals in
    the hands of consumers
    * helping the uninsured get health coverage.

    [...]
    * Assessing and utilizing new technology
    * Incorporating the newest and best scientific
    evidence into the practice of medicine
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    needed
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  2. Quoted message said:

    This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more and
    more people are turning to alternative medicine. Notice the
    buzz words like *scientific evidence* *evidence based
    medicine* *best scientific research* *medical evidence*
    that the majority of voters want...those same words that
    put the voo doo medicine proponents to sleep.

    biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html More Poll
    Results Voters More Likely to Vote for Candidates Who
    Support ...

    Yes, the public at large wants evidence based medicine. Jan
    Drew and her rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers want
    Coffee Enemas, Colonics, Bowel Purging Herbal "Cleanses",
    and Stool-oriented diagnostics.

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Public Wants Evidenced Based Medicine
    From: [email hidden] (I Dream of Ilsa9)
    Date: 4/13/2004 7:38 PM Central Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more and
    more people are turning to alternative medicine. Notice
    the buzz words like *scientific evidence* *evidence based
    medicine* *best scientific research* *medical evidence*
    that the majority of voters want...those same words that
    put the voo doo medicine proponents to sleep.

    biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html More
    Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for Candidates Who
    Support ...

    Yes, the public at large wants evidence based medicine.

    heall.comstatistics.html

    Projections as to the future of medicine, psychology, health
    care, Alternative Mind/Body medicine, and the current state
    of affairs in health care in the USA

    During the closing weeks of the 105th Congress, Norm
    Anderson, Director of the Office of Behavioral and Social
    Sciences Research at the National Institute of Health (NIH),
    testified before the Senate Appropriations Committee on the
    topic of Mind/Body Medicine.

    At that time, the media and physician witnesses pointed out
    that spending on our nation's health care is likely to
    double to $2.1 trillion by the year 2007; that already
    proven mind-body therapies could eliminate 37 percent of
    visits to the doctor per year and save $54 billion annually;
    and that stress contributes to many of the medical
    conditions confronted by healthcare practitioners -- between
    60 to 90 percent of visits to Physicians are related to
    stress and other psychosocial factors.

    Senator Tom Harkin, the Ranking member of the Appropriations
    subcommittee, subsequently shared with his colleagues a
    report developed by the Institute for Alternative Futures.
    This document noted that today, complementary and
    alternative approaches to health and medicine are among the
    fastest growing aspects of health care. In 1990, one-third
    of the U.S. population used some form of alternative
    approach to health care, and by the year 2010 at least two-
    thirds will.

    The Institute further projected that one shall soon
    experience the customizing or personalization of health
    care, integrating several approaches based on the unique
    needs of each individual. Genomics will identify what genes
    and what physical or behavioral characteristics (genotypes
    and phenotypes) are most relevant for determining how to
    treat a given condition with given modalities.

    Interestingly, complementary and alternative approaches such
    as oriental medicine, homeopathy and ayurveda already have
    extensive knowledge of individual differences built into
    their diagnostic and therapeutic systems. We must expect
    these complementary modes of analysis becoming integrated
    into conventional care, along with parallel psychological
    tests -- conventional medicine and alternative approaches
    will both challenge and learn from each other.

    The report noted the dramatic growth in numbers among the
    complementary and alternative health professions. For
    example, health care professionals (including physicians)
    trained in oriental medicine will swell to 24,000 by the
    year 2010; the number of chiropractors will nearly double by
    then from 55,000 to 103,000. This expansion of practitioners
    comes at a time when numerous other credible forecasts
    suggest significant surpluses of conventional health care
    providers by the year 2010 (e.g., surpluses of 100,000
    physicians, 200,000 nurses, and 40,000 pharmacists).
    Accordingly, all professions and individual practitioners
    must expect tremendously increased competition from other
    disciplines and traditional health care systems. While the
    opportunities to function, as a "healer" will expand
    dramatically, the ability to be financially successful will
    become more and more challenging.

    The 21st century will also undoubtedly be the era of the
    integration of exponential advances within technology
    fields with critical events in health care. Outcome
    measures will be applied to local health care Providers and
    appear in local report cards accessible to consumers and
    third party payers (those who ultimately "pay the bill"😉 by
    the year 2010.

    Our nation's health professional educational systems will
    undergo major, if not unprecedented, changes. These, of
    necessity, must incorporate significantly greater use of
    technology and "virtual learning environments".

    Similarly, state professional licensing systems will undergo
    major modifications. One must expect professionals of all
    disciplines to attempt to maintain and "protect their turf",
    but ultimately the boundaries of the professions are likely
    to blur. The right to continue to practice with a license
    will be based upon one's demonstrated outcomes; as local
    marketplaces become "smarter", consumers will regulate the
    market by economically rewarding "better practitioners".

    The Institute further projected that these trends will lead
    to Managed Care by the 2010 that is far more effective, prevention-
    oriented and customized. It will utilize health care
    professionals far more effectively. A projected major source
    of competition for managed care will become "self-managed
    care". The same information tools that will enable managed
    care to become more effective, prevention-oriented and
    customized will be available to individuals and families --
    consumers will seek prevention and wellness services that go
    far beyond what today we contemplate as "medical" or even
    "health care".

    Least one might think that the report forwarded to his
    colleagues by the Ranking member of the Appropriations
    subcommittee is a little too "futuristic", we would like to
    share some thoughts we recently received from the President
    of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, which over the past
    several decades has been extraordinarily active in fostering
    changes within our nation's health care system.

    "Our assets have ballooned to over $7 billion dollars,
    almost tripling since I came here in 1990. In a landmark
    1990 paper in JAMA, our senior consultant... found that
    fewer than 10% of premature deaths in the United States can
    be prevented by medical care. Nearly half of all deaths are
    associated with lifestyle and behavior choices. Yet this
    nation spends less than 5% of its total health care dollar
    on disease prevention and health promotion. This is not
    surprising given that Medicare providers and patients (and
    other players) are a political force in the health care
    arena, while health itself has no such natural constituency.
    Health is something of an orphan."

    "Beginning in 1990-91, with our commitment to reducing the
    health consequences of substance abuse, we have been
    bolstering our prevention and behavior/lifestyle
    investments. But we can do more. The restructuring will
    facilitate our growth into other behaviors associated with
    significant morbidity and mortality in this country. We are
    exploring, for example, whether targeted grantmaking could
    help reverse Americans' increasingly sedentary lifestyle.

    If you think Americans have turned into physical fitness
    freaks, consider these statistics: The time Americans spend
    in the cars quadrupled between 1960 and 1990; and between
    1960 and 1992 the time watching television per household per
    day increased from 5.06 to 7.04 hours...."

    Norm Anderson's testimony: "NIH has a long and revered
    tradition of funding research in the physiological realm,
    and more recently, there is tremendous excitement in the
    realm of genetics research. But equally important is the
    recognition of the role that behavioral, psychological,
    sociocultural and environmental factors play in health.

    Our beliefs, our emotions, our behavior, our thoughts, our
    family and cultural systems, as well as the environmental
    context in which we live, all are as relevant to our health
    as our genetic inheritance and our physiology...."

    "Health science has reached a point where it is no longer
    accurate to talk about psychology versus biology; the mind
    versus the body; or nature versus nurture. These processes
    are inextricably linked. When I talk about mind/body
    medicine, I am referring to these linkages. That is, the
    connections between psychological, behavioral, and
    sociocultural processes with all levels of biological
    functioning - from the organ systems, to the cellular, to
    the molecular.

    PAT DE LEON President Elect Div. 29, American
    Psychological Ass.

  4. "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more
    and more people are turning to alternative medicine.
    Notice the buzz words like *scientific evidence*
    *evidence based medicine* *best scientific research*
    *medical evidence* that the majority of voters
    want...those same words that put the voo doo medicine
    proponents to sleep.

    biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html More
    Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for Candidates
    Who Support ...

    Yes, the public at large wants evidence based medicine.
    Jan Drew and her rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers
    want Coffee Enemas, Colonics, Bowel Purging Herbal
    "Cleanses", and Stool-oriented diagnostics.

    Yes , you can have what ever sort of medicine you want , I
    couldn't care less , yawn , yawn . However , I reserve the
    same right , I too wish to have the medicine I choose .
    Alternative therapy is the way I choose to go , so butt out
    of my right to do so . ..............

  5. Bew' qw@nonamewhatsover said:

    Alternative therapy is the way I choose to go , so butt
    out of my right to do so .

    Who is stopping you?? Just because someone expresses
    skepticism or even says that they think you are foolish to
    use a particular therapy does not mean that they are
    preventing you from using it. You can use whatever therapy
    you would like as far as I am concerned. However if you
    announce your intention in this newsgroup be prepared for a
    dissenting opinion. This is after all a discussion group
    pro AND con.

    I do find it fascinating how often alties complain about
    others preventing them from pursuing whatever treatments
    they want simply because they express skepticism. It is a
    very idiosyncratic way of thinking.

    Aloha,

    Rich

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  6. "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more
    and more people are turning to alternative medicine.
    Notice the buzz words like *scientific evidence*
    *evidence based medicine* *best scientific research*
    *medical evidence* that the majority of voters
    want...those same words that put the voo doo medicine
    proponents to sleep.

    biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html More
    Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for Candidates
    Who Support ...

    Yes, the public at large wants evidence based medicine.
    Jan Drew and her rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers
    want Coffee Enemas, Colonics, Bowel Purging Herbal
    "Cleanses", and Stool-oriented diagnostics.


    ==============================
    Seems awfully ANAL to me.... :-)
    --
    Kim Colonics to clean out your stuffed up @$$ Of all the
    toxic goodies you do not pass Globs of gunk and the mucus
    you store Parasites, flukes and worms galore So take a
    colonic so you can pass All these nasties from your
    paracitized @$$..... The most amazing BS artists there are:
    members.rogers.comindex.html
    geocities.comQuackery.html
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  7. "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more
    and more people are turning to alternative medicine.
    Notice the buzz words like *scientific evidence*
    *evidence based medicine* *best scientific research*
    *medical evidence* that the majority of voters
    want...those same words that put the voo doo medicine
    proponents to sleep.

    biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html More
    Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for Candidates
    Who Support ...

    Yes, the public at large wants evidence based medicine.
    Jan Drew and her rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers
    want Coffee Enemas, Colonics, Bowel Purging Herbal
    "Cleanses", and Stool-oriented diagnostics.


    I'm back! So, you may entertain me........... You did not
    notice who published this? The insurance people. Were you
    born stupid, or did you work to become so gullible? I notice
    that ilsa still holds a fascination for solid waste and
    other people's anal parts.

  8. "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

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    "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:20040413203825.20933.00000290@mb-
    m21.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    >This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more
    >and more people are turning to alternative medicine.
    >Notice the buzz words like *scientific evidence*
    >*evidence based medicine* *best scientific research*
    >*medical evidence* that the majority of voters
    >want...those same words that put the voo doo medicine
    >proponents to sleep.
    >
    >biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html More
    >Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for Candidates
    >Who Support ...
    >

    Yes, the public at large wants evidence based medicine.
    Jan Drew and


    her

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    rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers want Coffee
    Enemas, Colonics,


    Bowel

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    Purging Herbal "Cleanses", and Stool-oriented
    diagnostics.


    ==============================
    Seems awfully ANAL to me.... :-)
    --
    Kim

    Yes, and the posse is quite touchy about their anal
    expulsivity. They get


    so

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    paranoid that somebody wants to take away their
    prefered form of


    expression.

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    Its almost Beavis-like, "Do NOT threaten my Bung Hole and
    its Infinite


    Desire

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    to Purge!"

    Oh, what a sad life it must be.


    Oh, we do not need to worry, we have you with your eye
    always on the [censored]. You must admit that you have shown a
    long term attraction to the anus and it's products. Doing a
    simple search reveals more posts by you addressing the anus
    and said products than any other subject. You are one
    strange little thing .

  9. "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:20040414100415.10047.00000394@mb-
    m17.aol.com...

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    "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:20040413203825.20933.00000290@mb-
    m21.aol.com...
    > >This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that
    > >more and more people are turning to alternative
    > >medicine. Notice the buzz words like *scientific
    > >evidence* *evidence based medicine* *best scientific
    > >research* *medical evidence* that the majority of
    > >voters want...those same words that put the voo doo
    > >medicine proponents to sleep.
    > >
    > >biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html
    > >More Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for
    > >Candidates Who Support ...
    > >
    >
    > Yes, the public at large wants evidence based
    > medicine. Jan Drew and


    her

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    > rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers want Coffee
    > Enemas, Colonics,


    Bowel

    Quoted message said:
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    > Purging Herbal "Cleanses", and Stool-oriented
    > diagnostics.
    ==============================
    Seems awfully ANAL to me.... :-)
    --
    Kim

    Yes, and the posse is quite touchy about their anal
    expulsivity. They


    get

    Quoted message said:

    so

    Quoted message said:

    paranoid that somebody wants to take away their prefered
    form of


    expression.

    Quoted message said:

    Its almost Beavis-like, "Do NOT threaten my Bung Hole
    and its Infinite


    Desire

    Quoted message said:

    to Purge!"

    Oh, what a sad life it must be.


    Oh, we do not need to worry, we have you with your eye
    always on the [censored].

    I feel like that every time I read your posts.

  10. (I Dream of Ilsa9) said:
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    "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message news:20040413203825.20933.00000290@mb-
    m21.aol.com...

    Quoted message said:

    >This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that more
    >and more people are turning to alternative medicine.
    >Notice the buzz words like *scientific evidence*
    >*evidence based medicine* *best scientific research*
    >*medical evidence* that the majority of voters
    >want...those same words that put the voo doo medicine
    >proponents to sleep.
    >
    >biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html More
    >Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for Candidates
    >Who Support ...
    >

    Yes, the public at large wants evidence based medicine.
    Jan Drew and her rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers
    want Coffee Enemas, Colonics, Bowel Purging Herbal
    "Cleanses", and Stool-oriented diagnostics.


    ==============================
    Seems awfully ANAL to me.... :-)
    --
    Kim

    Yes, and the posse is quite touchy about their anal
    expulsivity. They get so paranoid that somebody wants to
    take away their prefered form of expression. Its almost Beavis-
    like, "Do NOT threaten my Bung Hole and its Infinite Desire
    to Purge!"

    Oh, what a sad life it must be.

    CornHolio is a member of the stinky posse ?

    Who knew.
    --

    W_B

    Take out the G'RBAGE
    [email hidden]

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    "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    >
    >"I Dream of Ilsa9" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    >message news:20040413203825.20933.00000290@mb-
    >m21.aol.com...
    >> >This kind of flies in the face of claimaints that
    >> >more and more people are turning to alternative
    >> >medicine. Notice the buzz words like *scientific
    >> >evidence* *evidence based medicine* *best
    >> >scientific research* *medical evidence* that the
    >> >majority of voters want...those same words that
    >> >put the voo doo medicine proponents to sleep.
    >> >
    >> >biz.yahoo.comdctu024 1.html
    >> >More Poll Results Voters More Likely to Vote for
    >> >Candidates Who Support ...
    >> >
    >>
    >> Yes, the public at large wants evidence based
    >> medicine. Jan Drew


    and

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    her

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    >> rag-tag posse of co-dependent enablers want Coffee
    >> Enemas,


    Colonics,

    Quoted message said:
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    Bowel

    Quoted message said:

    >> Purging Herbal "Cleanses", and Stool-oriented
    >> diagnostics.
    >==============================
    >Seems awfully ANAL to me.... :-)
    >--
    >Kim

    Yes, and the posse is quite touchy about their anal
    expulsivity. They


    get

    Quoted message said:

    so

    Quoted message said:

    paranoid that somebody wants to take away their
    prefered form of


    expression.

    Quoted message said:

    Its almost Beavis-like, "Do NOT threaten my Bung Hole
    and its Infinite


    Desire

    Quoted message said:

    to Purge!"

    Oh, what a sad life it must be.


    Oh, we do not need to worry, we have you with your eye
    always on the [censored].

    I feel like that every time I read your posts.

    Somewhat like a dog pack, if you do not lead, the view
    stays the same.

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