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  1. Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club and
    saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What I'd like to know is if this
    is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates or only
    use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI
    emId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&show-
    Crumb=true

    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers, for
    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic shutoff. UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  2. I have a small, plain, inexpensive George because I only ever cook for 2 people usually. It is
    great. the grill plates don't come off, but I have not had a problem cleaning it.

    "SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club
    and saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What


    I'd

    Quoted message said:

    like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all
    four grill plates or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.


    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI
    emId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&show-
    Crumb=true

    Quoted message said:


    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers,


    for

    Quoted message said:

    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic


    shutoff.

    Quoted message said:

    UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  3. a few years back, five maybe, my mom got us one for Christmas, it was very
    inexpensive, maybe twelve dollars, it has a ceramic holder that is the
    base/exterior, a metal insert that you put a little water in to catch the
    grease, a heating element with the plug in attached, and a grill much like
    the grate on an old fashioned charcoal grill, She bought it to see if we
    were even interested in grilling, and said if we did she would get us an
    expensive one later, after three months of using it we called to tell her
    not to bother with the more costly one, we love this one and use it at least
    two times a week, HTH, Lee
    SPOONS <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club
    and saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What


    I'd

    Quoted message said:

    like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all
    four grill plates or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.


    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP
    4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI?itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat0000
    88&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&showCrumb=true

    Quoted message said:


    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers,


    for

    Quoted message said:

    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic


    shutoff.

    Quoted message said:

    UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  4. I only have experience with the smaller Foreman grills, but they're a snap to clean. Just unplug the
    unit and place wet paper towels on the grill, close, and let cool. Then you can just the same
    papertowels to wipe the residue off the grill, another one to dry it, and you're done!

    Unless of course you're like my DF and DON'T do any of the above steps until roughly every 30th
    usage of the grill, in which case it's a bear to clean.

    I didn't think I'd be using it nearly as much as I am, but I love it. Doesn't work well for bacon.
    Surprisingly does a good job on perogies.

    Amberle3

    SPOONS said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club
    and saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What I'd like to know is if
    this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates
    or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI
    itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&-
    showCrumb=true Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers, for
    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic shutoff. UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

    --
    Amberle3
    249/221/215-minigoal/150?
    Renewed my commitment to me 3/30/03

    - Happy Healthy Holidays Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comhhh.htm
    - New Year, New You Weight Loss Challenge:
    angelfire.comnyny.htm
    - Take Heart, Take Part Exercise Challenge: angelfire.comthtp.htm

  5. And just why can't you grill outside in the winter? I'm in Chicago, land of the cold and wicked
    winds ... grill 12 months of the year with no problems. We bought an outdoor foreman electric grill
    specifically for this purpose - the weather really doesn't effect the usage. But hub has also been
    known to fire up the gas grill in the sub zero temps.

    My only experience with the foreman grills are that they still can produce a bit of smoke - which I
    don't want to bother with in the house (nor do I want the fishy smell inside - drives me nuts for
    days). Guess all indoor grills are notorious for the same, but at least the grill on my oven has a
    vent fan which helps with the smoke (but is a mess to clean). My other complaint with the indoor
    grills are that while they are fantastic for chicken, pork and fish - steak is horrid on them! LOL

    Joyce

    SPOONS said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club
    and saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What I'd like to know is if
    this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates
    or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI
    temId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&sh-
    owCrumb=true

    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers, for
    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic shutoff. UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  6. I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.

    You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and pilot
    light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature (hot).

    You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.

    Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open
    (when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans reasonable
    well this way.

    I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation" that way (my former life was as a
    bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does not thrill me (G)

    I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    clearly stuff remains a bit, at least.

    But I really do like the darn thing.

    I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.

    SPOONS said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club
    and saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What I'd like to know is if
    this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates
    or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI
    temId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&sh-
    owCrumb=true

    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers, for
    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic shutoff. UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  7. The large outdoor electric foreman that hubby bought (looks like a kettle type grill) does have a
    removeable grill plate. He just drags the surface plate in and plops it in the sink - scrubs it off
    and is all set to go.

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.

    You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and pilot
    light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature (hot).

    You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.

    Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open (when
    cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans reasonable well
    this way.

    I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation" that way (my former life was as a
    bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does not thrill me (G)

    I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    clearly stuff remains a bit, at least.

    But I really do like the darn thing.

    I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.

    SPOONS said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club
    and saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What I'd like to know is if
    this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates
    or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI
    itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&-
    showCrumb=true

    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers, for
    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic shutoff. UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  8. The way I clean mine, is when it is still hot I put a couple of wet dishcloths in there and shut it.
    Those steam the 'whatever' loose, then I wipe it with a soapy one later after it cools, then a clean
    wet one. Even takes off the fish smell. Easy.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.

    You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and pilot
    light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature (hot).

    You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.

    Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open
    (when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans reasonable
    well this way.

    I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation" that way (my former life was as a
    bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does not thrill me (G)

    I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    clearly stuff remains a bit, at least.

    But I really do like the darn thing.

    I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.

    SPOONS said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some


    electric

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of cooking. I came across


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What


    I'd

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on
    all four grill plates or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHME


    P4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI?itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000
    088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&showCrumb=true

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x


    13",

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers,


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth"


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30 minutes, with automatic


    shutoff.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  9. Thanks for that info. It may be a bit large for my needs. I have a weber kettle outside. But my
    small one was too constrained to make sword fish for two at one time the other night. But since the
    steaks were of uneven thickness, I decided that they needed to be cooked separately anyway. So we
    shared the thicker one and put the thinner on and then both decided, we had had enough anyway and so
    I had sword fish for the next night.

    Actually, had a lot of fish last week. Sushi 3 times, pickled herring twice, shrimp once or twice
    and swordfish. There was also a bit of leg of lamb tucked in somewhere.

    Joyce said:

    The large outdoor electric foreman that hubby bought (looks like a kettle type grill) does have a
    removeable grill plate. He just drags the surface plate in and plops it in the sink - scrubs it off
    and is all set to go.

    Joyce

    Fred said:

    I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.

    You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and pilot
    light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature (hot).

    You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.

    Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open
    (when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans reasonable
    well this way.

    I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation" that way (my former life was as a
    bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does not thrill me (G)

    I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    clearly stuff remains a bit, at least.

    But I really do like the darn thing.

    I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.

    SPOONS said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and grill
    anymore I've started to look into some electric indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of
    cooking. I came across all sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club
    and saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What I'd like to know is if
    this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates
    or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHMEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI
    ?itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=-
    3&showCrumb=true

    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates,
    each 8 1/2" x 13", are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers, for
    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also comes
    with a specially designed spatula with "teeth" that fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30
    minutes, with automatic shutoff. UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.


  10. On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 22:05:55 GMT, "Lesanne" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    The way I clean mine, is when it is still hot I put a couple of wet dishcloths in there and shut
    it. Those steam the 'whatever' loose, then I wipe it with a soapy one later after it cools, then a
    clean wet one. Even takes off the fish smell. Easy.

    I have an indoor, double thingy one, with timer and thermostat. I clean it in much the same way as
    lesanne. Wipe while hot to get most stuff off then clean it when it cools a bit. Maybe I'm not as
    fussy as some when it comes to cleaning it?

    On the other hand I've been having a running battle with the local supermarket to try to get them to
    clean up their act. They are always mixing cooked and uncooked meat in the same display. The manager
    was scathing about it. He said that I probably loaded my fridge in a similar fashion. "yes" I said,
    "but I can only kill me and my family. You can kill the whole neighbourhood". I won that round 🙂
    And he did get a kid to move the stuff, but even after several 'discussions' it still happens. He
    claims the local food inspector is happy with it. Presumably the local food inspector doesn't get
    his groceries there!

    Ray
    --
    rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

  11. Sounds like a number of folks make an effort when the thing is still warm/hot. I may consider that.
    I probably got fishy water inside with my method and when it heats, it smells (G)

    Lesanne said:

    The way I clean mine, is when it is still hot I put a couple of wet dishcloths in there and shut
    it. Those steam the 'whatever' loose, then I wipe it with a soapy one later after it cools, then a
    clean wet one. Even takes off the fish smell. Easy.

    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.

    You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and pilot
    light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature (hot).

    You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.

    Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open
    (when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans reasonable
    well this way.

    I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation" that way (my former life was as
    a bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does not thrill me (G)

    I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    clearly stuff remains a bit, at least.

    But I really do like the darn thing.

    I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.

    SPOONS said:

    Hi all,

    I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and
    grill anymore I've started to look into some


    electric

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of cooking. I came across


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What


    I'd

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to be washed? Can I grill on
    all four grill plates or only use it for contact cooking?

    Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another good grill out there I'd
    appreciate it too.

    Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBHME


    P4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI?itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat000
    088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&showCrumb=true

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Here's the info about it:

    George Foreman Double Knockout Grill

    With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric grill
    gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill
    plates, each 8 1/2" x


    13",

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers,


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond to
    variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly, with
    patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included). Also
    comes with a specially designed spatula with "teeth"


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30 minutes, with automatic


    shutoff.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.

    SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.


  12. "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for that info. It may be a bit large for my needs. I have a weber kettle outside. But my
    small one was too constrained to make sword fish for two at one time the other night. But since
    the steaks were of uneven thickness, I decided that they needed to be cooked separately anyway. So
    we shared the thicker one and put the thinner on and then both decided, we had had enough anyway
    and so I had sword fish for the next night.

    I've often thought I'd like to try some different types of fish. We see mostly salmon, cod and
    halibut here. Sword fish sounds interesting. My sister was in Eastern Canada (Prince Edward Island &
    New Brunswick) in August and they tried fresh tuna for the first time. They thought it was great.

    Quoted message said:


    Actually, had a lot of fish last week. Sushi 3 times, pickled herring twice, shrimp once or twice
    and swordfish. There was also a bit of leg of lamb tucked in somewhere.

    Well fish is good for you, shrimp maybe not so much if you're watching your cholesterol, but it is
    low in points. I figure for the amount of shrimp I eat I can afford to NOT avoid it because of
    cholesterol. Would prefer to give up something like eggs or liver.

    I've tried lamb a couple of times, but didn't really care for it.

    Quoted message said:


    Joyce said:

    The large outdoor electric foreman that hubby bought (looks like a kettle


    type

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    grill) does have a removeable grill plate. He just drags the surface


    plate in and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    plops it in the sink - scrubs it off and is all set to go.

    Joyce

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:52:37 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.

    You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and pilot
    light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature (hot).

    You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.

    Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open
    (when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans reasonable
    well this way.

    I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation" that way (my former life was as
    a bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does not thrill me (G)

    I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    clearly stuff remains a bit, at least.

    But I really do like the darn thing.

    I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:20:10 GMT, "SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >Hi all,
    >
    >I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and
    >grill anymore I've started to look into some


    electric

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of cooking. I came across


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What


    I'd

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates or only use it for


    contact

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >cooking?
    >
    >Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another


    good

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >grill out there I'd appreciate it too.
    >
    >Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.
    >

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBH


    MEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI?itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat0
    00088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&showCrumb=true

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >
    >Here's the info about it:
    >
    >George Foreman Double Knockout Grill
    >
    >With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric
    >grill gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill
    >plates, each 8 1/2" x


    13",

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers,


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond
    >to variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly,
    >with patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included).
    >Also comes with a specially designed spatula with "teeth"


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30 minutes, with automatic


    shutoff.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.
    >
    >
    >
    >SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.

  13. Ah, you have an advanced model. And I may be too fussy.

    As a former bacteriologist, I can see your point of view. Go get him!
    (g)

    ray miller said:
    Lesanne said:

    The way I clean mine, is when it is still hot I put a couple of wet dishcloths in there and shut
    it. Those steam the 'whatever' loose, then I wipe it with a soapy one later after it cools, then a
    clean wet one. Even takes off the fish smell. Easy.

    I have an indoor, double thingy one, with timer and thermostat. I clean it in much the same way as
    lesanne. Wipe while hot to get most stuff off then clean it when it cools a bit. Maybe I'm not as
    fussy as some when it comes to cleaning it?

    On the other hand I've been having a running battle with the local supermarket to try to get them
    to clean up their act. They are always mixing cooked and uncooked meat in the same display. The
    manager was scathing about it. He said that I probably loaded my fridge in a similar fashion. "yes"
    I said, "but I can only kill me and my family. You can kill the whole neighbourhood". I won that
    round 🙂 And he did get a kid to move the stuff, but even after several 'discussions' it still
    happens. He claims the local food inspector is happy with it. Presumably the local food inspector
    doesn't get his groceries there!

    Ray

  14. Brenda Hammond said:


    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for that info. It may be a bit large for my needs. I have a weber kettle outside. But my
    small one was too constrained to make sword fish for two at one time the other night. But since
    the steaks were of uneven thickness, I decided that they needed to be cooked separately anyway.
    So we shared the thicker one and put the thinner on and then both decided, we had had enough
    anyway and so I had sword fish for the next night.

    I've often thought I'd like to try some different types of fish. We see mostly salmon, cod and
    halibut here. Sword fish sounds interesting. My sister was in Eastern Canada (Prince Edward Island
    & New Brunswick) in August and they tried fresh tuna for the first time. They thought it was great.

    Swordfish is terrific - very meaty in texture. And I really like the flavor, too. Actually, it is
    probably like halibut in having a real texture but, I guess, more fishy in flavor - halibut is
    very neutral.

    And I just purchased fresh tuna a Costco today. It is also a terrific fish.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Actually, had a lot of fish last week. Sushi 3 times, pickled herring twice, shrimp once or twice
    and swordfish. There was also a bit of leg of lamb tucked in somewhere.

    Quoted message said:

    Well fish is good for you, shrimp maybe not so much if you're watching your cholesterol, but it is
    low in points. I figure for the amount of shrimp I eat I can afford to NOT avoid it because of
    cholesterol. Would prefer to give up something like eggs or liver.

    I do need to get my blood chemistry tested. I have not had a physical since starting WW.

    Quoted message said:

    I've tried lamb a couple of times, but didn't really care for it.

    I like it a lot. But limit it to the WW 4 oz portions when I have it. Before, I could keep slicing a
    bit more, a bit more, a bit ..... (G)

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Joyce said:

    The large outdoor electric foreman that hubby bought (looks like a kettle


    type

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    grill) does have a removeable grill plate. He just drags the surface


    plate in and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    plops it in the sink - scrubs it off and is all set to go.

    Joyce

    On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:52:37 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    >I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.
    >
    >You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and pilot
    >light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature (hot).
    >
    >You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.
    >
    >Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open
    >(when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans
    >reasonable well this way.
    >
    >I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation" that way (my former life was
    >as a bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does not thrill me (G)
    >
    >I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    >clearly stuff remains a bit, at least.
    >
    >But I really do like the darn thing.
    >
    >I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.
    >
    >On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:20:10 GMT, "SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >>Hi all,
    >>
    >>I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here and I can't go outside and
    >>grill anymore I've started to look into some


    electric

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of cooking. I came across


    all

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's Club


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill. What


    I'd

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come off to


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates or only use it for


    contact

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>cooking?
    >>
    >>Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another


    good

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>grill out there I'd appreciate it too.
    >>
    >>Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.
    >>

    Quoted message said:

    >chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNBH


    MEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI?itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat0
    00088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&showCrumb=true

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >>Here's the info about it:
    >>
    >>George Foreman Double Knockout Grill
    >>
    >>With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric
    >>grill gives you double the capacity of previous Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick
    >>grill plates, each 8 1/2" x


    13",

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>are independently heated with separate temperature controls and timers,


    for

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time requirements Floating hinges respond
    >>to variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact cooks quickly and evenly,
    >>with patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a separate drip tray (included).
    >>Also comes with a specially designed spatula with "teeth"


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30 minutes, with automatic


    shutoff.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.
    >>


  15. Quoted message said:

    I've often thought I'd like to try some different types of fish. We see mostly salmon, cod and
    halibut here. Sword fish sounds interesting. My sister was in Eastern Canada (Prince Edward Island
    & New Brunswick) in August and they tried fresh tuna for the first time. They thought it was great.

    My dad used to run a fish and chip shop! I got a taste for it at an early age. I'll eat almost any
    fish. Best fresh 'cos it deteriorates quite quickly. Frozen fish is OK but not a patch on fresh.
    Smoked haddock is among my favourites, and sea bass and river trout.

    When I was in India we had Red Snapper which was lovely. Very sweet flesh. I saw it on sale in
    Birmingham a few weeks ago so I may get some next time I'm there.

    Quoted message said:

    I've tried lamb a couple of times, but didn't really care for it.

    My partner loves lamb, so I have to eat it occasionally. I prefer pork or beef. There is far too
    much fat in pork or lamb for me to eat it often.

    Ray
    --
    rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

  16. "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Brenda Hammond said:


    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for that info. It may be a bit large for my needs. I have a weber kettle outside. But my
    small one was too constrained to make sword fish for two at one time the other night. But since
    the steaks were of uneven thickness, I decided that they needed to be cooked separately anyway.
    So we shared the thicker one and put the thinner on and then both decided, we had had enough
    anyway and so I had sword fish for the next night.

    I've often thought I'd like to try some different types of fish. We see mostly salmon, cod and
    halibut here. Sword fish sounds interesting. My sister was in Eastern Canada (Prince Edward
    Island & New Brunswick) in August and they tried fresh tuna for the first time. They thought it
    was great.

    Swordfish is terrific - very meaty in texture. And I really like the flavor, too. Actually, it is
    probably like halibut in having a real texture but, I guess, more fishy in flavor - halibut is
    very neutral.

    And I just purchased fresh tuna a Costco today. It is also a terrific fish.

    I've seen frozen tuna in the grocery here, but not fresh. I've been tempted to try it, perhaps I
    will even though it is frozen, I'm sure it'll still be good.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Actually, had a lot of fish last week. Sushi 3 times, pickled herring twice, shrimp once or
    twice and swordfish. There was also a bit of leg of lamb tucked in somewhere.

    Quoted message said:

    Well fish is good for you, shrimp maybe not so much if you're watching


    your

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    cholesterol, but it is low in points. I figure for the amount of shrimp


    I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    eat I can afford to NOT avoid it because of cholesterol. Would prefer to give up something like
    eggs or liver.

    I do need to get my blood chemistry tested. I have not had a physical since starting WW.

    I just had my yearly physical and bloodwork in September and everything was normal. The year before
    my cholesterol was high, so I suppose my new WOL has made a difference.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I've tried lamb a couple of times, but didn't really care for it.

    I like it a lot. But limit it to the WW 4 oz portions when I have it. Before, I could keep slicing
    a bit more, a bit more, a bit ..... (G)

    My grandmother and DH were both born in England where lamb is quite popular. I'd prefer any other
    kind of meat to lamb. I don't even know how to cook it. We weren't brought up eating lamb, so never
    developed a taste for it.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:26:42 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >The large outdoor electric foreman that hubby bought (looks like a


    kettle

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    type

    Quoted message said:

    >grill) does have a removeable grill plate. He just drags the surface


    plate in and

    Quoted message said:

    >plops it in the sink - scrubs it off and is all set to go.
    >
    >Joyce
    >
    >On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:52:37 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>


    Quoted message said:

    >
    >>I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.
    >>
    >>You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and
    >>pilot light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature
    >>(hot).
    >>
    >>You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.
    >>
    >>Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and open
    >>(when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans
    >>reasonable well this way.
    >>
    >>I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation"


    that

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>way (my former life was as a bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does
    >>not thrill me (G)
    >>
    >>I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling. So
    >>clearly stuff remains a bit, at


    least.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>
    >>But I really do like the darn thing.
    >>
    >>I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.
    >>
    >>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:20:10 GMT, "SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >>>Hi all,
    >>>
    >>>I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here


    and I

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>can't go outside and grill anymore I've started to look into some


    electric

    Quoted message said:

    >>>indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of cooking. I came


    across

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    all

    Quoted message said:

    >>>sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's


    Club

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and

    Quoted message said:

    >>>saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill.


    What

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I'd

    Quoted message said:

    >>>like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come off


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    be

    Quoted message said:

    >>>washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates or only use it for


    contact

    Quoted message said:

    >>>cooking?
    >>>
    >>>Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another


    good

    Quoted message said:

    >>>grill out there I'd appreciate it too.
    >>>
    >>>Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.
    >>>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >chefscatalog.comprod.jhtml;jsessionid=P5CAAZNB


    H

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    MEP4CQAAJXB4WIKAABG4ITI?itemId=cprod1864347&parentId=cat000090&masterId=cat


    0

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    00088&grandMasterId=cat311003&cmCat=&index=3&showCrumb=true

    Quoted message said:

    >>>
    >>>Here's the info about it:
    >>>
    >>>George Foreman Double Knockout Grill
    >>>
    >>>With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface, this indoor/outdoor electric
    >>>grill gives you double the capacity of


    previous

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>Foreman models. The side-by-side nonstick grill plates, each 8 1/2"


    x

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    13",

    Quoted message said:

    >>>are independently heated with separate temperature controls and


    timers,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for

    Quoted message said:

    >>>simultaneously cooking foods with different heat or time


    requirements

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>>Floating hinges respond to variations in food thickness. Unique top-and-bottom grill contact
    >>>cooks quickly and evenly, with patented channels to carry runoff grease and fat into a
    >>>separate drip tray (included). Also comes with a specially designed spatula with


    "teeth"

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    that

    Quoted message said:

    >>>fit grill channels. Timers adjustable to 30 minutes, with automatic


    shutoff.

    Quoted message said:

    >>>UL* approved. 1500 watts. 23"W x 19 1/2"D x 6"H.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.
    >>>

  17. "ray miller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've often thought I'd like to try some different types of fish. We see mostly salmon, cod and
    halibut here. Sword fish sounds interesting. My sister was in Eastern Canada (Prince Edward
    Island & New Brunswick) in August and they tried fresh tuna for the first time. They thought it
    was great.

    My dad used to run a fish and chip shop! I got a taste for it at an early age. I'll eat almost any
    fish. Best fresh 'cos it deteriorates quite quickly. Frozen fish is OK but not a patch on fresh.
    Smoked haddock is among my favourites, and sea bass and river trout.

    I grew up in a family full of fishermen, so I'm used to nice fresh out of the ocean fish/seafood and
    find it difficult buying it from a store. It tastes different than it is when it's fresh.

    Quoted message said:


    When I was in India we had Red Snapper which was lovely. Very sweet flesh. I saw it on sale in
    Birmingham a few weeks ago so I may get some next time I'm there.

    We have red snapper here in southwestern BC. I wonder if it's similar to what you had in India. The
    red snapper here is great too.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    I've tried lamb a couple of times, but didn't really care for it.

    My partner loves lamb, so I have to eat it occasionally. I prefer pork or beef. There is far too
    much fat in pork or lamb for me to eat it often.

    DH likes lamb, but I have never purchased it. The few times I tried it I found that it was
    too fatty. Couldn't stand it! I think if it had to be on the table in our house I would be
    eating veggies!

    Quoted message said:


    Ray
    --
    rmnsuk overall - 273/210/182

  18. Mom made lamb chops and an occasional leg. One is broiled the other roasted - simple (G)

    The frozen fish these days are pretty well-handled and should be okay.

    Brenda Hammond said:


    "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    > Thanks for that info. It may be a bit large for my needs. I have a weber kettle outside. But
    > my small one was too constrained to make sword fish for two at one time the other night. But
    > since the steaks were of uneven thickness, I decided that they needed to be cooked separately
    > anyway. So we shared the thicker one and put the thinner on and then both decided, we had had
    > enough anyway and so I had sword fish for the next night.

    I've often thought I'd like to try some different types of fish. We see mostly salmon, cod and
    halibut here. Sword fish sounds interesting. My sister was in Eastern Canada (Prince Edward
    Island & New Brunswick) in August and they tried fresh tuna for the first time. They thought it
    was great.

    Swordfish is terrific - very meaty in texture. And I really like the flavor, too. Actually, it is
    probably like halibut in having a real texture but, I guess, more fishy in flavor - halibut is
    very neutral.

    And I just purchased fresh tuna a Costco today. It is also a terrific fish.

    I've seen frozen tuna in the grocery here, but not fresh. I've been tempted to try it, perhaps I
    will even though it is frozen, I'm sure it'll still be good.

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    > Actually, had a lot of fish last week. Sushi 3 times, pickled herring twice, shrimp once or
    > twice and swordfish. There was also a bit of leg of lamb tucked in somewhere.

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    Well fish is good for you, shrimp maybe not so much if you're watching


    your

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    cholesterol, but it is low in points. I figure for the amount of shrimp


    I

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    eat I can afford to NOT avoid it because of cholesterol. Would prefer to give up something like
    eggs or liver.

    I do need to get my blood chemistry tested. I have not had a physical since starting WW.

    I just had my yearly physical and bloodwork in September and everything was normal. The year before
    my cholesterol was high, so I suppose my new WOL has made a difference.

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    I've tried lamb a couple of times, but didn't really care for it.

    I like it a lot. But limit it to the WW 4 oz portions when I have it. Before, I could keep
    slicing a bit more, a bit more, a bit ..... (G)

    My grandmother and DH were both born in England where lamb is quite popular. I'd prefer any other
    kind of meat to lamb. I don't even know how to cook it. We weren't brought up eating lamb, so never
    developed a taste for it.

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    > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:26:42 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    kettle

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    > >
    > >Joyce
    > >
    > >On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:52:37 -0800, Fred <[email hidden]>
    wrote:
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    > >>I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.
    > >>
    > >>You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It does have a thermastat and
    > >>pilot light. It lights when it is heating and the light goes out when it is at temperature
    > >>(hot).
    > >>
    > >>You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull the plug.
    > >>
    > >>Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to the edge of the sink and
    > >>open (when cool) and sponge off both halves and let the water run into the sink. It cleans
    > >>reasonable well this way.
    > >>
    > >>I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation"


    that

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    > >>way (my former life was as a bacteriologist) even with the heat, cooking on older food does
    > >>not thrill me (G)
    > >>
    > >>I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling.
    > >>So clearly stuff remains a bit, at


    least.

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    > >>But I really do like the darn thing.
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    > >>I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill plates - that would be nice.
    > >>
    > >>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:20:10 GMT, "SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote:
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    > >>>Hi all,
    > >>>
    > >>>I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here


    and I

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    across

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    > >>>sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's


    Club

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    and
    > >>>saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill.


    What

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    to

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    be
    > >>>washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates or only use it for
    contact
    > >>>cooking?
    > >>>
    > >>>Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest another
    good
    > >>>grill out there I'd appreciate it too.
    > >>>
    > >>>Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.
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  19. I agree about the fresh caught fish. My dad used to go deep sea fishing all the time when I was a
    kid and I was spoiled with really fresh caught salmon. I have never had any as fresh as what mom
    would cook. It is all fishy tasting when it is not fresh.

    Debbie

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    I grew up in a family full of fishermen, so I'm used to nice fresh out of the ocean fish/seafood
    and find it difficult buying it from a store. It tastes different than it is when it's fresh.

  20. "Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Mom made lamb chops and an occasional leg. One is broiled the other roasted - simple (G)

    The frozen fish these days are pretty well-handled and should be okay.

    Yeah, I figured so. I've looked at the frozen tuna several times, but haven't been able to convince
    myself to try it yet. I guess what I should do is ask DH if he'll eat it before I buy it (they are
    fairly large pieces). He's fairly picky when it comes to food. Surprising when you consider his
    recipe for spaghetti sauce.

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    On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:04:04 -0800, "Brenda Hammond" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    >"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    >> Thanks for that info. It may be a bit large for my needs. I have a weber kettle outside. But
    >> my small one was too constrained to make sword fish for two at one time the other night. But
    >> since the


    steaks

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    >> were of uneven thickness, I decided that they needed to be cooked separately anyway. So we
    >> shared the thicker one and put the thinner on and then both decided, we had had enough
    >> anyway and so I had


    sword

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    >> fish for the next night.
    >
    >I've often thought I'd like to try some different types of fish. We


    see

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    >mostly salmon, cod and halibut here. Sword fish sounds interesting.


    My

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    >sister was in Eastern Canada (Prince Edward Island & New Brunswick) in August and they tried
    >fresh tuna for the first time. They thought it


    was

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    >great.

    Swordfish is terrific - very meaty in texture. And I really like the flavor, too. Actually, it
    is probably like halibut in having a real texture but, I guess, more fishy in flavor - halibut
    is very neutral.

    And I just purchased fresh tuna a Costco today. It is also a terrific fish.

    I've seen frozen tuna in the grocery here, but not fresh. I've been


    tempted

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    to try it, perhaps I will even though it is frozen, I'm sure it'll still


    be

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    good.

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    >> Actually, had a lot of fish last week. Sushi 3 times, pickled


    herring

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    >> twice, shrimp once or twice and swordfish. There was also a bit of leg of lamb tucked in
    >> somewhere.

    >Well fish is good for you, shrimp maybe not so much if you're watching


    your

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    >cholesterol, but it is low in points. I figure for the amount of


    shrimp

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    >eat I can afford to NOT avoid it because of cholesterol. Would prefer


    to

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    >give up something like eggs or liver.

    I do need to get my blood chemistry tested. I have not had a physical since starting WW.

    I just had my yearly physical and bloodwork in September and everything


    was

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    normal. The year before my cholesterol was high, so I suppose my new WOL has made a difference.

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    >I've tried lamb a couple of times, but didn't really care for it.

    I like it a lot. But limit it to the WW 4 oz portions when I have it. Before, I could keep
    slicing a bit more, a bit more, a bit ..... (G)

    My grandmother and DH were both born in England where lamb is quite


    popular.

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    I'd prefer any other kind of meat to lamb. I don't even know how to cook it. We weren't brought
    up eating lamb, so never developed a taste for


    it.

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    >>
    >> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 02:26:42 -0600, Joyce <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >>
    >> >The large outdoor electric foreman that hubby bought (looks like a


    kettle

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    >> >grill) does have a removeable grill plate. He just drags the


    surface

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    >plate in and
    >> >plops it in the sink - scrubs it off and is all set to go.
    >> >
    >> >Joyce
    >> >
    >> >On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 19:52:37 -0800, Fred


    <[email hidden]>

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    >> >>I have the small, simple George Foreman grill.
    >> >>
    >> >>You plug it in and it's on. You pull the plug and its off. It


    does

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    >> >>You place stuff on, figure out cooking time and remove and pull


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    >> >>Cleaning took me a while to master. I now drag the unit over to


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    >> >>edge of the sink and open (when cool) and sponge off both halves


    and

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    >> >>I see others just wipe it clean. I'm not sure about "sanitation"


    that

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    >> >>does not thrill me (G)
    >> >>
    >> >>I do find that when using it the next time, it is already fishy smelling or meat smelling.
    >> >>So clearly stuff remains a bit, at


    least.

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    >> >>But I really do like the darn thing.
    >> >>
    >> >>I do not know if the larger/better ones have removable grill


    plates -

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    >> >>that would be nice.
    >> >>
    >> >>On Tue, 09 Dec 2003 12:20:10 GMT, "SPOONS" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >>>Hi all,
    >> >>>
    >> >>>I'm on my first week on maintenance. Since winter is almost here


    and I

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    >> >>>can't go outside and grill anymore I've started to look into some
    >electric
    >> >>>indoor grills. I figure it's a healthy way of cooking. I came


    across

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    >> >>>sorts of sizes, styles and brands. Just yesterday I was at Sam's


    Club

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    >> >>>saw the new stainless steel George Foreman Double Knockout Grill.


    What

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    >> >>>like to know is if this is any good? Do the grill plates come


    off

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    to

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    >> >>>washed? Can I grill on all four grill plates or only use it for
    >contact
    >> >>>cooking?
    >> >>>
    >> >>>Any suggestions, advice would be great. If you can suggest


    another

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    >> >>>
    >> >>>Here's a web site that shows a picture of it.
    >> >>>
    >>

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    >> >>>With more than 200 square inches of combined cooking surface,


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    1/2"

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    requirements

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    >> >>>contact cooks quickly and evenly, with


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    >> >>>SPOONS lost 20 lbs on WW's on first week of maintenance.
    >> >>>
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