[Question] Running in NYC

steve common said:

If I were to go for a run in Central Park on, say, the 18th or 19th
September, would I be safer if I carried
- as little as possible

I usually carry very little. Maybe a few dollars so I can get a drink afterwards

Quoted message said:

When's the best time to go and is it really better to run
anti(counter)-clockwise than clockwise round Dustin Hoffman Pond?

What pond would that be ? Couldn't find anything on google.

In central park, you can go either way.

If you run on the bridle trail, keep to the right.

Quoted message said:

Are there any races in central NYC on the 18th?

There's a 5k cross country race which you can get to by subway. I'll be going
there.

There's also a 4 mile race in central park on the 17th.

http://www.nyrr.org/race/2005/calendar/september.php

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

steve common said:

- "TheBillRodgers knew my Mom" T-shirt

Whose your daddy? I always thought you looked like me.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Donovan Rebbechi said:

In central park, you can go either way.

And Donnie "goes either way" in the park each evening.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:43:58 -0400, The Bill Rodgers <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

And Donnie "goes either way" in the park each evening.

Don't blame your mom, it wasn't her fault. I gave her the "we don't
need a condom, I'm fixed" line (works everytime) and 9 months later
along you came.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Donovan Rebbechi said:

Quoted message said:

When's the best time to go and is it really better to run
anti(counter)-clockwise than clockwise round Dustin Hoffman Pond?

Quoted message said:

What pond would that be ? Couldn't find anything on google.

Sheesh! Today´s young people know nothing! Midnight Cowboy, Little Big
Man, Straw Dogs, Lenny, All the President´s Men, Marathon Man?

Babe Levy ran laps around the Reservoir.

Anders

steve common said:

If I were to go for a run in Central Park on, say, the 18th
or 19th September, would I be safer if I carried
- as little as possible

That's probably what you want. As much as some of us are nostalgic for
the days when the constant threat of grievous bodily harm kept many out
of the city, NYC is in fact more deadly dull than deadly when it comes
to violent crime these days. I can point you in the direction of some
parts of Brooklyn which could maximize your chance of personal injury -
a couple of our neighborhoods pretty well dominate the citywide crime
blotter - but you'll have a tough time finding trouble anywhere you're
likely to wander in Manhattan.

Quoted message said:

When's the best time to go and is it really better to run
anti(counter)-clockwise than clockwise round Dustin Hoffman Pond?

Before I moved here, I once overheard someone claiming that ones
direction of travel around the reservoir depended on whether one lived
on the Upper East Side or Upper West Side. Having lived in neither - I
did once live downtown for three years, near the Italian restaurant
past which Hoffman runs once or twice early on - I've never circled the
reservoir and so cannot verify.

Пендежо

Charlie Pendejo said:

Before I moved here, I once overheard someone claiming that ones
direction of travel around the reservoir depended on whether one lived
on the Upper East Side or Upper West Side. Having lived in neither - I
did once live downtown for three years, near the Italian restaurant
past which Hoffman runs once or twice early on - I've never circled the
reservoir and so cannot verify.

I usually go CCW on the resevoir when I'm there, seems that's the direction
most people are going.

However, I'd recommend the bridle trail (a 2.5 mile loop if you go the long way)
instead for a "dirt run", or the drives otherwise (6 miles)

The pond loop is very narrow, and the traffic there moves very slowly. I suppose
if Steve is going at his recovery pace, it would be OK.

The one thing the pond has going for it is that it's a really beautiful place to
run after sunset.

Cheers,
--
Donovan Rebbechi
http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/

No one probably is going to attack strapping, running male.
If you look vulnerable- e.g. way out of shape,
wear goofy clothing, or carry an bulging wallet-
then that may be another issue.

Will the fall colors be starting by then? Perhaps a tad bit early.
Central park is gorgeous when the leave turn.

I strongly recommend doing some runs there. Its a pretty
place and good people-watching spot. Tens of thousands
jog there every day.

Donovan Rebbechi said:

However, I'd recommend the bridle trail (a 2.5 mile loop if you go the long way)

This is where Donnie lies in wait. Avoid the area unless you like it
up the [censored] chute.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

rick++ said:

No one probably is going to attack strapping, running male.

What about those snarling tweety birds Rick? Rick? Rick?

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Quoted message said:

What about those snarling tweety birds Rick?

Birds defend their nests between May and July.
Not an issue in September.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0610/p01s03-usgn.htmlhttp://www.thisislondon.com/til/jsp/modules/Article/print.jsp?itemId=19218837

rick++ said:

Birds defend their nests between May and July.
Not an issue in September.

So you're safe now? Thank god, I was losing sleep worrying about you
getting ripped to threads by some rampaging rooster, or beaked to
death by a berserk robin.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

anders said:

Babe Levy ran laps around the Reservoir.

:-) maybe I overdid it a bit with the "pond"

Donovan Rebbechi said:

There's a 5k cross country race which you can get to by subway. I'll be going
there.

I'll have a look see but I'm beginning to think that racing may not be
feasible as I will be with half a dozen colleagues.

Quoted message said:

There's also a 4 mile race in central park on the 17th.

http://www.nyrr.org/race/2005/calendar/september.php

Spotted that one thanks. Would have been just right but I'm not arriving til
lunchtime 17th after all.

I reckon I'll settle for a run round the reservoir, which sounds like it
will be a special event even without Babe Levy's steps to follow :-)

Thanks to all for the advice, comments and humour :-)

Birds defend their nests between May and July.
Not an issue in September.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/ 0610/p01s03-usgn.html

Reposting again, because google mangled the two URLs.

"Meet Malbec ~
The Whip ~ Poor ~ Will,

A bird whose song
Heard
Only,

At night,
Whose name sings ...

Whip ~ Poor ~
Will ~ !

Quoted message said:

From night note

Sung
Nocturnally."
~ Capsicum

Run in beautiful western Pennsylvania. You don't have to worry about
what's in your pockets.

We even have bagpipers on occasion:
http://www.ligoniergames.org/

Quoted message said:

We even have bagpipers on occasion:
http://www.ligoniergames.org/

You poor [censored]! You're doomed.

TBR

"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and
more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day
the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the
White House will be adorned by a downright moron."
H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
"Anyone with degrees from Yale and Harvard is presumed to be intelligent,
but George W. Bush has managed to overcome that presumption."

Quoted message said:

Run in beautiful western Pennsylvania. You don't have to
worry about what's in your pockets.

Maybe not, but while Steve's English is obviously better than most
Americans', I'm not so sure he's prepared to speak and understand
Western Pennsylvaniese. Nor deal with the lack of running water,
electricity, civilization, and literacy outside Pittsburgh and Erie.

Nice hills though.