Thanks, i could not have put a better price on it.
Ken "Jet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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Who maintains custody of these old samples? How much would it cost to have a sample tampered with?
ken
A shoebox full of vintage Jerry Lewis movies.
jj
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"Colin Campbell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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1. Were the six samples the only ones that were taken from Armstrong in 1999? If not, were the remainder tested? If not, isn't it time to test those, too? If others were not positive, then wouldn't the tests in their entirety be called into question? (Supposedly, twelve samples tested positive, and they implicated six riders, so if six samples came from Armstrong, then one rider had two positive samples, and four others had single positive samples. It seems the responsible thing to do would be to makes sure ALL samples from ALL of these riders get tested. L'Equipe would appear to know who the other riders are, so they should be able to find all the sample numbers that came from them. It seems a bit one-sided NOT to make sure all these samples were tested, and if L'Equipe is going to name Armstrong, they should name the others as well.)
2. Do they have samples from the years before 1999, and the years after? If so, isn't it time to test them, too? (There was some mention of the need to use masking agents if one continued to use EPO after the first EPO test became available in 2001. Armstrong rode in earlier tours, and won at least one stage previously, which should mean at least one sample was taken, if the rules for sampling were in force ten years ago.)
3. Does L'Equipe's story accomplish anything more than character assasination, since it appears that no sanctions can be applied, and the person "outed" cannot defend himself? And isn't the failure to name ALL the riders a little bit suspect?
4. Will this make Armstrong so mad that he "unretires", and comes back to try and win the Tour de France again?
"Jet" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:[email hidden]...
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IMKen said:
Who maintains custody of these old samples? How much would it cost to
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a sample tampered with?
ken
A shoebox full of vintage Jerry Lewis movies.
jj
What is it with American's fixation on Jerry Lewis and France? You ask someone in France about Jerry Lewis, and chances are they think you're talking about Jerry Lee Lewis. In the 10 years that I've lived in the center of Paris's independent film houses, where at any given time you can find a Woody Allan film, a Marx Brothers retrospective and a 30s screwball comedy a la Bringing Up Baby showing; I've never seen a Jerry Lewis movie playing.
What is it with American's fixation on Jerry Lewis and France? You ask someone in France about Jerry Lewis, and chances are they think you're talking about Jerry Lee Lewis. In the 10 years that I've lived in the center of Paris's independent film houses, where at any given time you can find a Woody Allan film, a Marx Brothers retrospective and a 30s screwball comedy a la Bringing Up Baby showing; I've never seen a Jerry Lewis movie playing.
Right. From the cover of TV magazines, the real heroes are, in historical order, Robert Stack, Fred Dryer, Richard Dean Anderson, and now Matthew Fox who a couple of weeks ago made the cover of all the various TV guides. I'm not sure whether Chuck Connors was as popular in France as in other countries http://www.riflemanconnors.com/Leonid%20Brezhnev.htm
IIRC, the French government honored Mr. Lewis with a prestigious arts award. Americans (of perhaps an earlier generation than you are familiar with) saw him as slapstick silly.
My personal opinion has been that the cosmopolitan French were being facetious. They saw Mr. Lewis as the personification of the typical American. Drawing attention to him was a way of articulating their disdain.
"Jet" <[email hidden]> a écrit dans le message de news:[email hidden]...
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IMKen said:
Who maintains custody of these old samples? How much would it cost to
have
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a sample tampered with?
ken
A shoebox full of vintage Jerry Lewis movies.
jj
What is it with American's fixation on Jerry Lewis and France? You ask someone in France about Jerry Lewis, and chances are they think you're talking about Jerry Lee Lewis. In the 10 years that I've lived in the center of Paris's independent film houses, where at any given time you can find a Woody Allan film, a Marx Brothers retrospective and a 30s screwball comedy a la Bringing Up Baby showing; I've never seen a Jerry Lewis movie playing.
IIRC, the French government honored Mr. Lewis with a prestigious arts award. Americans (of perhaps an earlier generation than you are familiar with) saw him as slapstick silly.
My personal opinion has been that the cosmopolitan French were being facetious. They saw Mr. Lewis as the personification of the typical American. Drawing attention to him was a way of articulating their disdain.
Just my spin
Dumbass - It's true. The French all sit around all day wearing berets and sneering at stupid Americains who think slapstick physical comedy is funny. Watch Jacques Tati's "Mr. Hulot's Holiday" sometime to see a particularly repulsive example of this Francosuperieurority complex.
A buddy of mine , who works for a security company in France told me an intoxicated Richard Virenque, broke into lab that was storing the pee and peed in a bunch of those viles that were storing the 1999 samples.
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Mike Bruno said:
Colin Campbell said:
4. Will this make Armstrong so mad that he "unretires", and comes back to try and win the Tour de France again?
Hah! That would be something. One thing that vaugely bothers me about this whole thing is the fact that they're storing pee for 6+ years.....
As the plaintiff's lawyer I'd ask to see the freezer temperature variation and repair records for the past six years...among other things...lol.
I wonder why I couldn't find a baret to buy while in France. Those soda straw sucking Frogs must have stolen them all off the shelves to prevent we Americans from buying them as symbols of a fallen France.
I wonder why I couldn't find a baret to buy while in France. Those soda straw sucking Frogs must have stolen them all off the shelves to prevent we Americans from buying them as symbols of a fallen France.
Dumbass,
Were you looking for a barrette (hair clip thing) or a beret? If the latter, you couldn't find them because the US military cleaned out the French supply of black berets when we changed our official headgear: http://www.army.mil/features/beret/beret.htm
As for why we had to buy up all the French berets instead of getting them from true-blue American suppliers, I think Rumsfeld must have tried to get the berets through the same Pentagon procurement chain that supplies armor plating for Humvees.
If it was a baguette you were looking for in France and couldn't find, I just don't know what to say.
