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  1. "Chuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    In:

    Group: rec.bicycles.misc Date: Thu, Aug 24, 2006, 12:02pm (CDT+1) From:
    [email hidden] (Ken C. M.)

    Ken wrote:

    A couple for you:
    1) How often do you get asked "Do you have a license?"
    2) When was the last time you drove your MV to work or school?
    The reason these I ask these question is this. The other day while at
    work I had a small conversation with a co-worker about how far people
    are willing to drive to work, the price of gasoline and the mileage cars
    get. And at one point I commented on a car I would like to own, but
    costs more than I am willing to lay out for that type of car, and my
    co-worked asked "Do you have a license?", to which I replied yes, and
    then she said "So why do you ride your bicycle everywhere?". I said to
    save money on gasoline, to get exercise and to cut down on the our
    dependence on oil. She said "Oh, I thought you couldn't drive or
    something." to which I said yeah that is a common misconception about
    people that use bicycles as transportation.
    Ken
    --
    Messengers and mountain bikers share a common chromosome. ~James Bethea

    I nolonger drive period. I refuse to be sold the idea that I can't live
    without a car; gave it up in 1986 and have never looked back. I
    currently use a modified EZ-3 for my daily commute to work and back. I
    have a trailer I can use to haul back upto 30 gallons of groceries if I
    so desire and most of my other needs are within a two mile radious of
    home. I also have a regular bike I sometimes use just for fun; I call it
    my sports car.

    Chuck Trotter
    Nashville TN.

    good for you. im gonna do that soon. it's hard to let go of my old mopar
    that still hauls all kinds of stuff once in a while, but i agree there's no
    reason to buy that idea. you can live without a car, it's just a matter of
    priorities like anything else. for sale: rare '64 v-100 sw HP/6 4bbl, 3.25
    rear end w/333, alloy mags & many extras...$1000 OBO seattle area.

  2. "Paul Hobson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    greggery peccary <[email hidden]> wrote:
    > anyway i feel i have about 10 more years of bike commuting to atone
    > for all the car commuting i did before-but maybe i should subtract the
    > years of pizza delivery, a critical service.

    Quoted message said:

    "Dane Buson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    A noble cause in the general case. Too bad there is very little pizza
    in Seattle worth delivering.

    greggery peccary said:

    lol, no [censored]! pagliacci's not bad though, depending on the


    location...and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    tutta bella has that great sauce but this is no NYC.

    [zips up flame suit]

    NYC pizza is awful. Like most aspects of that city, it's all talk based
    on the assumption that it's the "best city in the world." I'll take
    Chicago...or even Atlanta pizza over NYC any day.
    [ducks]
    \\paul

    <pizza pan flies overhead> lol. never been to chicago but hear it's a very
    bicycle friendly town.

  3. greggery peccary said:

    "Paul Hobson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    [zips up flame suit]

    NYC pizza is awful. Like most aspects of that city, it's all talk based
    on the assumption that it's the "best city in the world." I'll take
    Chicago...or even Atlanta pizza over NYC any day.
    [ducks]
    \\paul

    <pizza pan flies overhead> lol. never been to chicago but hear it's a very
    bicycle friendly town.

    My band went on tour this summer [1] and I must say, I probably saw more
    cyclists there than any other town save Portland and Seattle. And I'd
    be more than confident that I witnessed about equal percentages of
    cyclists in all three of those cities.

    Cycling aside, Chicago was a very lovely place. If it wasn't cold and
    windy, it'd be high on my list of places to live in once I graduate for
    real.

    [1]http://www.flickr.com/photos/p_myron_h/sets/72157594254367655/

    --
    Paul M. Hobson
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    ..:change the f to ph to reply:.

  4. "Paul Hobson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    greggery peccary said:

    "Paul Hobson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    [zips up flame suit]

    NYC pizza is awful. Like most aspects of that city, it's all talk


    based

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    on the assumption that it's the "best city in the world." I'll take
    Chicago...or even Atlanta pizza over NYC any day.
    [ducks]
    \\paul

    <pizza pan flies overhead> lol. never been to chicago but hear it's a


    very

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    bicycle friendly town.

    My band went on tour this summer [1] and I must say, I probably saw more
    cyclists there than any other town save Portland and Seattle. And I'd
    be more than confident that I witnessed about equal percentages of
    cyclists in all three of those cities.

    Cycling aside, Chicago was a very lovely place. If it wasn't cold and
    windy, it'd be high on my list of places to live in once I graduate for
    real.

    [1]http://www.flickr.com/photos/p_myron_h/sets/72157594254367655/

    --

    actually i have been there...sleeping under the plastic seats at ohare at
    4am. not the best tour.

  5. Bill Baka said:
    R Brickston said:
    Bill Baka said:

    Tom Kunich wrote:
    > "greggery peccary" <.@.> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >>> Ick, I take it you have one of those where it's a shared pool of
    >>> sick/vacation/holiday days?
    >> no, worse. separately accrued but not allowed to use.
    > I worked for Beckman Corp. and they gave you sick leave but put you on
    > report if you used more than two days in a row and might fire you if you
    > took any more sick days in the next 6 months.
    >
    > The mental illness at that company certainly motivated me to move on to
    > better companies.
    >
    >
    >
    I worked for Beckman for about a month and got written up for punching
    in 10 seconds late because there was a line in front of me. There was an
    ice storm that made driving nearly impossible so everybody was running
    late. That was in the Portland, Oregon area and also the last time I
    ever punched a time clock. It took the supervisor all of about 4 hours
    to review the time cards and call me into his office and start his rant.
    I told him to eat [censored] and walked out before I really blew it and
    punched him and not the time clock. That made up my mind to move back to
    California, quickly. I feel sorry for 'ANYBODY' who works at Beckman in
    any state. They treat all employees equally, like dirt.
    I had to get that out. Beckman just plain sucks.
    Bill Baka

    Billy, you were goint to get blown out anyway with your admitted
    terrible atitude toward co-workers. You just gave them the
    non-litigatable excuse they needed to can your sorry ass. Management
    probably was running a pool on how long it took you to go postal. What
    kind of Neanderthal resorts to physical violence? You're a total
    Dunce.

    Once again you prove you are a total moron. My coworkers were wonderful
    and even gave me a baby shower when my daughter was born. It was the
    management that sucked back in 1978 and still does. This genius was
    about to punch the boss when he stood up and leaned over the desk to get
    directly in my face, which I do not advise. If you want to be somebodies
    white '[censored]' go right ahead, as it seems that you are qualified.
    Please excuse the 'N' word but I think it applies.
    Bill Baka

    Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.

  6. R Brickston said:
    Bill Baka said:

    Once again you prove you are a total moron. My coworkers were wonderful
    and even gave me a baby shower when my daughter was born. It was the
    management that sucked back in 1978 and still does. This genius was
    about to punch the boss when he stood up and leaned over the desk to get
    directly in my face, which I do not advise. If you want to be somebodies
    white '[censored]' go right ahead, as it seems that you are qualified.
    Please excuse the 'N' word but I think it applies.
    Bill Baka

    Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
    people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    still have an attitude towards anyone of color. I don't.
    You also apparently can't read and comprehend, since I said I quit and
    walked out. My coworkers tried to convince me to stay but I won't work
    for a boss or a company like that. Why I talk to an idiot like you I
    don't know, except that I must be bored.
    Bill Baka

  7. Bill Baka said:
    R Brickston said:
    Bill Baka said:

    Once again you prove you are a total moron. My coworkers were wonderful
    and even gave me a baby shower when my daughter was born. It was the
    management that sucked back in 1978 and still does. This genius was
    about to punch the boss when he stood up and leaned over the desk to get
    directly in my face, which I do not advise. If you want to be somebodies
    white '[censored]' go right ahead, as it seems that you are qualified.
    Please excuse the 'N' word but I think it applies.
    Bill Baka

    Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
    people as

    That is complete [censored]. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
    laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.

    Quoted message said:

    I have known some that fit the definition.

    What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    The
    African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    still have an attitude towards anyone of color. I don't.
    You also apparently can't read and comprehend, since I said I quit and
    walked out. My coworkers tried to convince me to stay but I won't work
    for a boss or a company like that. Why I talk to an idiot like you I
    don't know, except that I must be bored.
    Bill Baka

  8. R Brickston said:

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
    white people as

    Quoted message said:

    That is complete [censored]. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
    laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have known some that fit the definition.

    Quoted message said:

    What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of [censored].

    Ask Robert Byrd.

  9. Bill Sornson said:
    R Brickston said:

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
    white people as

    Quoted message said:

    That is complete [censored]. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
    laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have known some that fit the definition.

    Quoted message said:

    What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of [censored].

    Ask Robert Byrd.


    I do have black friends as well as white and while they tend to not like
    the 'N' word they do agree with me that they have seen a lot of white
    "N's". I am not racist and in fact my locker mate in high school was the
    only African-American kid in the whole school at the time. Eric
    Washington was about half white and one of the nicest kids in my school,
    better than I can say about some of the white [censored] that went there.
    I have a problem with all the illegal Mexicans that won't bother to
    learn English, causing me to lose a few job offers because I didn't
    speak Spanish. I try to be nice to them and help them out but it is a
    bit hard to communicate with hand signals and only a half dozen words
    that I know or they know of English. I have worked with blacks,
    Mexicans, Chinese, East Indians, and more. The Chinese and East Indians
    at least bothered to learn English and the blacks were born here. The
    hardest workers of all, interestingly, were the East Indian women.
    Why would I be racist? I was born in Chicago with a large black
    population and never had any confrontations with them. I used to take
    the Metra rail into downtown when I was 13 with a friend of mine and we
    talked to them all the time, back in 1962. They were actually very nice
    to us since they knew that as kids, we knew nothing about civil rights
    or discrimination.
    Brickston, You have the problem.
    Bill Baka

  10. Bill Baka said:
    Bill Sornson said:
    R Brickston said:

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    > Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
    > white people as

    Quoted message said:

    That is complete [censored]. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
    laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.

    Quoted message said:

    > I have known some that fit the definition.

    Quoted message said:

    What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of [censored].

    Ask Robert Byrd.


    I do have black friends as well as white and while they tend to not like
    the 'N' word they do agree with me that they have seen a lot of white
    "N's". I am not racist and in fact my locker mate in high school was the
    only African-American kid in the whole school at the time.

    Typical racist excuse.

    Quoted message said:

    Eric
    Washington was about half white and one of the nicest kids in my school,
    better than I can say about some of the white [censored] that went there.
    I have a problem with all the illegal Mexicans that won't bother to
    learn English, causing me to lose a few job offers because I didn't
    speak Spanish. I try to be nice to them and help them out but it is a
    bit hard to communicate with hand signals and only a half dozen words
    that I know or they know of English. I have worked with blacks,
    Mexicans, Chinese, East Indians, and more. The Chinese and East Indians
    at least bothered to learn English and the blacks were born here. The
    hardest workers of all, interestingly, were the East Indian women.
    Why would I be racist?

    Quoted message said:

    I was born in Chicago with a large black
    population and never had any confrontations with them.

    That's impossible, you have confrontations with /everybody/.

    Quoted message said:

    I used to take
    the Metra rail into downtown when I was 13 with a friend of mine and we
    talked to them all the time, back in 1962. They were actually very nice
    to us since they knew that as kids, we knew nothing about civil rights
    or discrimination.

    Quoted message said:

    Brickston, You have the problem.

    I'm not the one using racist language, you are.

  11. R Brickston said:
    Bill Baka said:
    Bill Sornson said:

    R Brickston wrote:
    > On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:37:51 GMT, Bill Baka <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >> Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
    >> white people as
    > That is complete [censored]. If someone used it on me, I would burst out
    > laughing. To use the "N Word" on a white is completely meaningless.
    >> I have known some that fit the definition.
    > What's the definition of the "N Word," you racist piece of [censored].
    Ask Robert Byrd.


    I do have black friends as well as white and while they tend to not like
    the 'N' word they do agree with me that they have seen a lot of white
    "N's". I am not racist and in fact my locker mate in high school was the
    only African-American kid in the whole school at the time.

    Typical racist excuse.

    True story. I defended him against some of the actually prejudiced kids
    there, but didn't hang out much with him. We had lunch in the cafeteria
    but I never saw him after school.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Eric
    Washington was about half white and one of the nicest kids in my school,
    better than I can say about some of the white [censored] that went there.
    I have a problem with all the illegal Mexicans that won't bother to
    learn English, causing me to lose a few job offers because I didn't
    speak Spanish. I try to be nice to them and help them out but it is a
    bit hard to communicate with hand signals and only a half dozen words
    that I know or they know of English. I have worked with blacks,
    Mexicans, Chinese, East Indians, and more. The Chinese and East Indians
    at least bothered to learn English and the blacks were born here. The
    hardest workers of all, interestingly, were the East Indian women.
    Why would I be racist?

    Quoted message said:

    I was born in Chicago with a large black
    population and never had any confrontations with them.

    That's impossible, you have confrontations with /everybody/.

    Only on this group, rarely in person unless I run into a blathering
    [censored], or an [censored] driver while riding my bike, who gets the one
    finger salute.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I used to take
    the Metra rail into downtown when I was 13 with a friend of mine and we
    talked to them all the time, back in 1962. They were actually very nice
    to us since they knew that as kids, we knew nothing about civil rights
    or discrimination.

    Quoted message said:

    Brickston, You have the problem.

    I'm not the one using racist language, you are.

    The 'N' word, which I did not use to refer to blacks, does apply to some
    white people, as some of my black acquaintances have agreed with.
    It depends on the context.
    Bill Baka

    Quoted message said:
  12. Bill Baka said:
    R Brickston said:

    Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
    people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    still have an attitude towards anyone of color.

    What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
    Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
    not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
    all southerns.

    (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
    the Midwest or the North).

    You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.

    \\paul

    And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
    time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.
    --
    Paul M. Hobson
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    ..:change the f to ph to reply:.

  13. On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:42:00 -0400, Paul Hobson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Bill Baka said:
    R Brickston said:

    Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
    people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    still have an attitude towards anyone of color.

    What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
    Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
    not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
    all southerns.

    (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
    the Midwest or the North).

    You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.

    \\paul

    And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
    time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.

    I'm sure Billy was talking about the those that live in the South on
    Planet Baka... wait a minute... Billy's the entire populace which
    would make sense.

  14. Paul Hobson said:
    Bill Baka said:
    R Brickston said:

    Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
    white people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    still have an attitude towards anyone of color.

    What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
    Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently not,
    since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by all
    southerns.

    (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
    the Midwest or the North).

    You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.

    \\paul

    And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
    time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.

    News flash,
    I just took my granddaughter to the park for a long walk and met 2 of
    her friends from school, one pure black and the other only 1/4 black,
    and I wound up talking with her for most of an hour about racial
    backgrounds. She said she identifies mostly with her 1/4 black because
    she is also part Mexican, part Irish, and more that she doesn't even
    know. She also told me that the biggest racial issue the kids at her
    school have is the Hmongs that the United States imported for their own
    protection. Even the not quite whites have issues with each other. If I
    was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks since it is
    not their fault they are here. I do have an issue with illegal
    immigrants and the Hmongs who are responsible for most of the gang
    activity in this area. I was watching a herd of kids when a bus load of
    Hmongs got off the school bus and ran off the white, black, and even
    Mexican kids who were there. They refused to even talk to anyone.
    Can you say reverse racism?
    It exists and I can't fix it, so can you?
    Bill Baka

  15. R Brickston said:

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:42:00 -0400, Paul Hobson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Bill Baka said:

    R Brickston wrote:
    > Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    > shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    > company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    > you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    > the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
    people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    still have an attitude towards anyone of color.


    What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
    Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
    not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
    all southerns.

    (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
    the Midwest or the North).

    You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.

    \\paul

    And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
    time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.

    I'm sure Billy was talking about the those that live in the South on
    Planet Baka... wait a minute... Billy's the entire populace which
    would make sense.

    I concede to your stupidity. I am not going to waste the group bandwidth
    on you anymore.

    *PLONK*

    Bill Baka

  16. Bill Baka said:

    News flash,
    I just took my granddaughter to the park for a long walk and met 2 of
    her friends from school, one pure black and the other only 1/4 black,
    and I wound up talking with her for most of an hour about racial
    backgrounds. She said she identifies mostly with her 1/4 black because
    she is also part Mexican, part Irish, and more that she doesn't even
    know. She also told me that the biggest racial issue the kids at her
    school have is the Hmongs that the United States imported for their own
    protection. Even the not quite whites have issues with each other. If I
    was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks since it is
    not their fault they are here. I do have an issue with illegal
    immigrants and the Hmongs who are responsible for most of the gang
    activity in this area. I was watching a herd of kids when a bus load of
    Hmongs got off the school bus and ran off the white, black, and even
    Mexican kids who were there. They refused to even talk to anyone.

    1) This posts doesn't make you sound very racially tolerant. But wait,
    you're not in the South, so I guess you have insider info that makes
    this informed rather than bigoted.
    2) How does any of that nonsense have /anything/ to do with this:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Bill Baka said:

    Again, you prove your stupidity. [The n-]word applies equally well
    to white people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    African-American population still takes offense since the
    southerners still have an attitude towards anyone of color.

    To which I responded:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this
    country. Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston?
    Apparently not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's
    perpetuated by all southerns.

    Well?
    Tell me Bill, how is the South so much more racist than the rest of the
    country? What makes NYC, Boston, Pittsburgh, Milwaukee, St. Louis,
    Dallas, Denver, LA...etc doing that make them *not* racist?

    Tell you what. Go down do Georgia Tech's campus and witness a school
    that represents well over 100 countries and you find out for yourself
    where the racism in this country comes from --> hint: everywhere. I
    would like to point out that 98% of GT students get along quite well,
    and the other 2% keep their mouths shut.

    Quoted message said:

    Can you say reverse racism?
    It exists and I can't fix it, so can you?
    Bill Baka

    Typical, ignorant view of racism. There's no such thing as reverse
    racism. Either you are, or you aren't. Get real, man.
    --
    Paul M. Hobson
    Georgia Institute of Technology
    ..:change the f to ph to reply:.

  17. Bill Baka said:
    Paul Hobson said:
    Bill Baka said:

    R Brickston wrote:
    > Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    > shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    > company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    > you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    > the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.

    Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to
    white people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    still have an attitude towards anyone of color.

    What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
    Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently not,
    since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by all
    southerns.

    (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
    the Midwest or the North).

    You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.

    \\paul

    And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
    time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.

    News flash,
    I just took my granddaughter to the park for a long walk and met 2 of
    her friends from school, one pure black and the other only 1/4 black,
    and I wound up talking with her for most of an hour about racial
    backgrounds. She said she identifies mostly with her 1/4 black because
    she is also part Mexican, part Irish, and more that she doesn't even
    know. She also told me that the biggest racial issue the kids at her
    school have is the Hmongs that the United States imported for their own
    protection. Even the not quite whites have issues with each other. If I
    was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks since it is
    not their fault they are here. I do have an issue with illegal
    immigrants and the Hmongs who are responsible for most of the gang
    activity in this area. I was watching a herd of kids when a bus load of
    Hmongs got off the school bus and ran off the white, black, and even
    Mexican kids who were there. They refused to even talk to anyone.
    Can you say reverse racism?
    It exists and I can't fix it, so can you?
    Bill Baka

    You're a racist, read the [censored] you just wrote. "If I
    was going to be racist it would not be against the blacks..." You got
    it in for /somebody/ (besides me, of course).

  18. Bill Baka said:
    R Brickston said:

    On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:42:00 -0400, Paul Hobson <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Bill Baka wrote:
    > R Brickston wrote:
    >> Well, well... The use of that word under any circumstances is
    >> shameful. Just goes to show what a POS you really and truly are. That
    >> company, any company (I'm sure there were many), are better off that
    >> you were fired. BTW, you're no genius, your an idiot; although you are
    >> the smartest person on Planet Baka - Population 1.
    > Again, you prove your stupidity. That word applies equally well to white
    > people as I have known some that fit the definition. The
    > African-American population still takes offense since the southerners
    > still have an attitude towards anyone of color.
    What the hell are you talking about? Racists are all over this country.
    Hmm...what's that? Riots over integration in Boston? Apparently
    not, since racism only exists in the South, where it's perpetuated by
    all southerns.

    (Hot tip: 90% of the racists I've worked with down here migrated from
    the Midwest or the North).

    You really come across as completely ignorant sometimes.

    \\paul

    And NO! that term did not apply there. Maybe if you spent some real
    time dealing with real racial issues, you'd know that.

    I'm sure Billy was talking about the those that live in the South on
    Planet Baka... wait a minute... Billy's the entire populace which
    would make sense.

    I concede to your stupidity. I am not going to waste the group bandwidth
    on you anymore.

    *PLONK*

    Bill Baka

    "group bandwidth." Yes, please don't waste it as we are having a hard
    time with all these HUGE text files being laboriously pushed through
    the ether.

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