raceCLEAN blue bracelets availble $1.

i would actualy wear that one...

me to

crit pro said:

Ask for them at your LBS.

crit PRO

100% of the funds go directly to USADA.

That's a great idea! Do it! Get the hell off your ass and off the internet and DO SOMETHING POSITIVE for a change, fool! I'd wear one, too.

Quoted message said:

That's a great idea! Do it! Get the hell off your ass and off the
internet and DO SOMETHING POSITIVE for a change, fool! I'd wear one,
too.

--
pedalchick

Um ... wouldn't ***everyone*** wear one?

How 'bout a "Test me anytime/anywhere" bracelet. And cheap, portable
blood/urine testing equipment.

Just a thought.

Kirby.

It actually is a good idea, I'd be willing to pay $5 for a raceCLEAN bracelet.

There are two manufacturers I've found:

promobrands.comrubberbands.htmOpen ↗

You want the silicone bracelet not the rubber one.

Another one wants 1.80 per min of 2500

likelance.comwst page5.htmlOpen ↗

never_doped said:

It actually is a good idea, I'd be willing to pay $5 for a raceCLEAN
bracelet. There are two manufacturers I've found:
http://www.promobrands.com/rubberbands.htm
http://likelance.com/wst_page5.html

And sell them through your website at

www.saynotodope.org
www.nodopefor.us
www.dopingisevil.com
www.neverdoped.com

(all open for registration).

never_doped <[email hidden]> wrote
in

Quoted message said:

Another one wants 1.80 per min of 2500

http://likelance.com/wst_page5.html

Wow, this is really an idea. Will someone with like Saunders or J-Me
take it upon themselves to get this rolling? A little organization
from a high-profile person is all it would take:

Get in touch with race promotors (many post here) to drop $500 for 250
bracelets.

Sell them at Cross races, Interbike, local shops for $5 a pop.

Promotors send in profits to USADA.

The risk is distributed, and after covering costs $7500 is raised.
Lance has sold 13 million so far. A couple thousand should be easy.

-a

Andrew Martin said:

The risk is distributed, and after covering costs $7500 is raised.
Lance has sold 13 million so far. A couple thousand should be easy.

-a

The pros are outnumbered by the schmoes. I wonder if this "movement"
could gain ground in Europe, or is this just a Puritanical New England
thing?

If (in the US) we could get the testing (for all the big races plus some
targeted out of competition randoms) into a sophisticated, experienced,
accredited, commercial testing lab...(Chick?)

IF you could do cheap dope testing there would be more testing...It
costs about $300 per rider tested.

CH

"kirby" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

That's a great idea! Do it! Get the hell off your ass and off the
internet and DO SOMETHING POSITIVE for a change, fool! I'd wear one,
too.

--
pedalchick

Um ... wouldn't ***everyone*** wear one?

How 'bout a "Test me anytime/anywhere" bracelet. And cheap, portable
blood/urine testing equipment.

Just a thought.

Kirby.

done it already son...

eriksaunders.com.. i am working on the page today.. 1 dollar for a bracelet...
and i hand write an inspirational phrase on each one...

never_doped <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

It actually is a good idea, I'd be willing to pay $5 for a raceCLEAN
bracelet.

There are two manufacturers I've found:

http://www.promobrands.com/rubberbands.htm

You want the silicone bracelet not the rubber one.

Another one wants 1.80 per min of 2500

http://likelance.com/wst_page5.html

If anyone does the silicone ones I'll buy 10 :-) Serious!

ok.. that was really a joke.. i was gonna buy cheap hospital bands and write on
them with a sharpie, and keep the dollar.. but i took a dump and then decided
to take the money i was gonna use to buy spankometer shirts and get
wristbands... 5 bucks... and i pay for dope testing at races... done deal as
soon as i hear back from teh wristband place on a quote..

Quoted message said:

Promotors send in profits to USADA.

I would seriously do it but I would not give the profits to USADA to waste.
Cycling is the real problem sport but knowing them, they would probably spend
this money on ping pong testing or something. You have to realize that they
are barely making a true dent US cycling. Their strategy needs to change. I
would use the profits to test at a few random cycling events and I would test
the winner and about ten randoms.

JC

erik saunders said:

ok.. that was really a joke.. i was gonna buy cheap hospital bands and write on
them with a sharpie, and keep the dollar.. but i took a dump and then decided
to take the money i was gonna use to buy spankometer shirts and get
wristbands... 5 bucks... and i pay for dope testing at races... done deal as
soon as i hear back from teh wristband place on a quote..

Moral of the story : Taking a dump may make you feel virtuous.

chris said:

IF you could do cheap dope testing there would be more testing...It
costs about $300 per rider tested.

From the 2003 USADA annual report:
http://www.usantidoping.org/files/active/who/annual_report_2003.pdf

In 2003 they performed 6890 tests at a cost of $4,307,701. That works
out to $625/test. Since there are some B samples there the total number
of tests is slightly higher, and the per test cost slightly lower.

There are followup costs listed under 'Legal' to the tune of $1,321,570.
Related to this is the enforcement of the sample collection protocol,
which is necessary for the result to stand up under legal challenge.
The person collecting the sample has to know the rules. There are no
corners to cut. This business is messy enough as it is.

Bob Schwartz
[email hidden]

From: [email hidden] (J DASH ME)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.racing

Quoted message said:

Promotors send in profits to USADA.

I would seriously do it but I would not give the profits to USADA to
waste.
Cycling is the real problem sport but knowing them, they would
probably spend
this money on ping pong testing or something.

Put me down for a bracelet.

You can arrange your own testing, specific to the event you desire,
provided you have enough. And I believe that you can make a donation
to USADA on the condition that it gets utilized specifically for
cycling...but I'm not 100% on that.

My anti-doping ideas

1) NRC event have minimum prizelist requirements. There are already a
ton of NRC events to the point where it may be time to raise the bar.
Require promoters to provide limited testing...allow for lowering of
prizelists requirements for events that test. It's about $2000 to do
top 3 and 1 random.

2) District associations not get kickbacks from the feds...each D.A
utilize some of that funding for at least one set of tests at one
random event in their region. It's not a ton, but enough to keep
people on their toes. Especailly useful when riders are doping a
month ahead of big races and competing locally to train while avoiding
testing.

3) No testing announcment prior to the event. Announce all tests post
race for A scheudle events. This sucks for riders who drop out and
have to check in at registration to see if there is testing, but it
beats the current alternative.

"Bill Laudien" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

3) No testing announcment prior to the event. Announce all tests post
race for A scheudle events. This sucks for riders who drop out and
have to check in at registration to see if there is testing, but it
beats the current alternative.

That's how they do it in Belgium now. Even more incentive not to get shelled
on the first lap :-) There was a big hooha last year when they tested 10(!)
randoms from one kermis, and a few of them had already gone home by the time
the doping bus arrived at the race. I think they managed to track everyone
down in the end, but after that the rule got a bit more publicity.

Interestingly, only one rider in the top 20 was tested and he was positive.
The fact that he firstly tried to give a fake urine sample and then tried to
bribe the doctor probably made the Flemish medical inspectors a tad
suspicious. But he was a "known" doper anyway (one positive, no remorse,
lots of rumours). He retired after this second positive, which would have
resulted in a four year ban. He still comes out training with us sometimes
on the weekends, and he's still bloody strong.

Jeff

Could you imagine...every rider has a test kit and is sneaking into
porta-jons to get samples. Oh the humanity!

Bob Schwartz <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

chris said:

IF you could do cheap dope testing there would be more testing...It
costs about $300 per rider tested.

From the 2003 USADA annual report:
http://www.usantidoping.org/files/active/who/annual_report_2003.pdf

In 2003 they performed 6890 tests at a cost of $4,307,701. That works
out to $625/test. Since there are some B samples there the total number
of tests is slightly higher, and the per test cost slightly lower.

There are followup costs listed under 'Legal' to the tune of $1,321,570.
Related to this is the enforcement of the sample collection protocol,
which is necessary for the result to stand up under legal challenge.
The person collecting the sample has to know the rules. There are no
corners to cut. This business is messy enough as it is.

Bob Schwartz
[email hidden]

I wonder if cycling will become like body building where we have
"Natural" cycling events and then the pros. Like everyone knows are
the Mr. Olympia dudes are doped worse than any cyclist, but yet they
pretend like it doesn't exist, except for that odd "natural" category.

That's some [censored] up [censored]!

CH

Quoted message said:

The pros are outnumbered by the schmoes. I wonder if this "movement"
could gain ground in Europe, or is this just a Puritanical New England
thing?

If (in the US) we could get the testing (for all the big races plus some
targeted out of competition randoms) into a sophisticated, experienced,
accredited, commercial testing lab...(Chick?)