| If radios "aren't any worse than any other system" why are they the
preferred
| method in the peloton? With radios, if someone dangerous attacks, the
teams that are
| paying attention can let the DS know on the radio and he can llet the
whole team
| know. It may not always work out perfectly but it's much better than
hollering to
| your teammates (who may be spread out through the group, back getting
bottles, etc.)
| that someone is attacking and they all need to react. I'd rather it be
without radios
| as I think it makes the team have to pay more attention and it often leads
to splits
| in the field that people have to work hard to eliminate. And it shows
which riders
| have good instincts and are observant.
The DSs already have a pretty good feel for what's going on via the TVs in
their cars and "race radio" which is pretty comprehensive (I've been in a
team car for a stage of the TdF, so I've got a pretty good idea of what goes
on). The biggest advantage to team radios is not so much finding out what
the other guys are doing, but how your own guys are feeling. Who's up, who's
down. Plus giving instructions (OK, orders, but I'll bet is quite different
for different teams; with Discover/Postal, there was no debate, you just did
your job. I'm guessing it's not that way everywhere).
However, radio dramatically speeds up the reaction time to an event. The DS
sees what's happening on the TV, figures out how to deal with it, and relays
the instructions to his team. And in so doing, it's less likely that a break
of any consequence will succeed. Conversely, it's *more* likely that a break
without GC contenders will have their day in the sun. It's increasingly
difficult to get a "good break" so to speak, because the DSs aren't likely
to make major mistakes. They have to be outsmarted in a way that rarely
happens (but obviously did when Landis took back the 'Tour in 2006).
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
www.ChainReactionBicycles.com
"Howard Kveck" <
[email protected]> wrote in message
news:
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| In article <
[email protected]>, "Tom Kunich"
<cyclintom@yahoo. com>
| wrote:
|
| > "Carl Sundquist" <
[email protected]> wrote in message
| > news:
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| > > "Tom Kunich" <cyclintom@yahoo. com> wrote in message
| > > news:
[email protected]...
| > >> So it's OK for the team manager to pull up along side the rider and
tell
| > >> him everything.....
| > >>
| > >> Please think about this Sandy.
| > >
| > > Team managers are not allowed to drive into the peloton to provide any
| > > type of support (sometimes they have to drive through it to get to a
feed
| > > zone or follow a break). If a team manager wants to talk to a rider,
the
| > > rider has to fall back behind the peloton and behind the commissaire's
| > > vehicle to get to the team car. The team car will be ordered by the
| > > commissaire to come up from it's position in the caravan up to behind
to
| > > behind the commissaire's car. Sometimes the car can move up
immediately,
| > > sometimes it must wait for it's turn or a safe place to maneuver. Team
| > > cars are usually put in order of the team's best rider on GC. So if
all
| > > your riders are in the bottom half of GC, it sucks getting to the team
| > > car.
| >
| > The important information goes to someone on a breakaway or can be
passed up
| > to the team leader by the guy dropping back for water bottles. While the
| > information transferred by radio is a little more instant that can be
| > equally good and bad depending on how reliable the information that the
team
| > manager is getting.
| >
| > The bottom line is that there has always been collaboration between the
team
| > manager and the team leader and today's radios aren't any worse than any
| > other system.
|
| If radios "aren't any worse than any other system" why are they the
preferred
| method in the peloton? With radios, if someone dangerous attacks, the
teams that are
| paying attention can let the DS know on the radio and he can llet the
whole team
| know. It may not always work out perfectly but it's much better than
hollering to
| your teammates (who may be spread out through the group, back getting
bottles, etc.)
| that someone is attacking and they all need to react. I'd rather it be
without radios
| as I think it makes the team have to pay more attention and it often leads
to splits
| in the field that people have to work hard to eliminate. And it shows
which riders
| have good instincts and are observant.
|
| --
| tanx,
| Howard
|
| Whatever happened to
| Leon Trotsky?
| He got an icepick
| That made his ears burn.
|
| remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
