rafl down under here is nice

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under Fred
🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159, just to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

Congrats on the good weigh in Lesanne!!

--

Cheers,

Connie Walsh

241.5/201/155 RAFL 210.5/201/198.5 2nd 10% 219.5/201/198

the right side of course, Lee, smiles knowingly
Fred <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Hey, whose side are you on? (G)

Joyce said:

LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred just
one more thing

to shake

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

his head over. <g>

Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
doing fantastic with maintenance and that's what matters.

Joyce

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

Free is good and where you want to be. Guess it doesn't
matter how confusing it is, as long as YOU know where you
are supposed to be. And I suppose changing that goal in your
ww book is a double edged sword. Yes, you could have left it
alone and had more room to remain free. I also wonder
though, if by keeping it higher we play a little mind game
with ourselves and maybe not be as strict? It making it the
lower number works for you, and keeps you where you want to
be, then by all means ... KEEP IT THERE!

Joyce

Lesanne said:

As far as the WW "book" goes I lost a half a pound. On my
scale it was a maintain.... It is so messed up now even a
master accountant couldn't figure it out. My old WW goal
was 164, and now it is 159. So I am still Free, which is
what is important.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred just
one more thing

to shake

Quoted message said:

his head over. <g>

Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
doing fantastic with maintenance and that's what matters.

Joyce

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

Us gals gotta stick together. <G>

Joyce

Fred said:

Hey, whose side are you on? (G)

Joyce said:

LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred just
one more thing to shake his head over. <g>

Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are doing
fantastic with maintenance and that's what matters.

Joyce

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under Fred
🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159, just to give Fred something to gripe
about.)
365/158.8/159

Yeah. That is me. Change whatever all the time 🙂

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Change rules, change goals, just like a woman. Does
anything she wants, anytime she wants, any way she wants.

Congrats on whatever anyway (G)

Hopefully, this week's exercise will help = we shall see

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

backatcha sis

"Miss Violette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

*evil laugh* Hi-fives her evil sister... Lee Lesanne
<[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

Mine?

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hey, whose side are you on? (G)

Joyce said:

LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred just
one more thing

to shake

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

his head over. <g>

Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
doing fantastic with maintenance and that's what matters.

Joyce

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

Mine?

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Hey, whose side are you on? (G)

Joyce said:

LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred just
one more thing

to shake

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

his head over. <g>

Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
doing fantastic with maintenance and that's what matters.

Joyce

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

Hey, Keep Smiling 🙂)))

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Oh, this is a pretty picture. Thanks for the details (G)

Brenda Hammond said:

Woohoo! Still under Fred! I gotta *see* that, or maybe I
don't......

Fred, just you wait until there are a few more of us
under you.....we're getting there....

Brenda

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a

pound

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos he
ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
goal at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

Hey, Keep Smiling 🙂)))

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Oh, this is a pretty picture. Thanks for the details (G)

Brenda Hammond said:

Woohoo! Still under Fred! I gotta *see* that, or maybe I
don't......

Fred, just you wait until there are a few more of us
under you.....we're getting there....

Brenda

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a

pound

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos he
ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
goal at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

I don't want to go over 160 ever again, so having the WW goal at 164 was a
little too loose for me 🙂

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Free is good and where you want to be. Guess it doesn't
matter how

confusing it

Quoted message said:

is, as long as YOU know where you are supposed to be. And
I suppose

changing that

Quoted message said:

goal in your ww book is a double edged sword. Yes, you
could have left it

alone

Quoted message said:

and had more room to remain free. I also wonder though, if
by keeping it

higher

Quoted message said:

we play a little mind game with ourselves and maybe not be
as strict? It

making

Quoted message said:

it the lower number works for you, and keeps you where you
want to be,

then by all

Quoted message said:

means ... KEEP IT THERE!

Joyce

Lesanne said:

As far as the WW "book" goes I lost a half a pound. On my
scale it was a maintain.... It is so messed up now even a
master accountant couldn't figure it out. My old WW goal
was 164, and now it is 159. So I am still Free, which is
what is important.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred
just one more

thing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to shake

Quoted message said:

his head over. <g>

Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
doing fantastic

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

maintenance and that's what matters.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:11:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>well even with clothes and everything, and the WW
>scale which is a

pound

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos he
>ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

>🙂.
>
>Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
>goal at WW to

159,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just

Quoted message said:

>to give Fred something to gripe about.)
>365/158.8/159
>

I don't want to go over 160 ever again, so having the WW goal at 164 was a
little too loose for me 🙂

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Free is good and where you want to be. Guess it doesn't
matter how

confusing it

Quoted message said:

is, as long as YOU know where you are supposed to be. And
I suppose

changing that

Quoted message said:

goal in your ww book is a double edged sword. Yes, you
could have left it

alone

Quoted message said:

and had more room to remain free. I also wonder though, if
by keeping it

higher

Quoted message said:

we play a little mind game with ourselves and maybe not be
as strict? It

making

Quoted message said:

it the lower number works for you, and keeps you where you
want to be,

then by all

Quoted message said:

means ... KEEP IT THERE!

Joyce

Lesanne said:

As far as the WW "book" goes I lost a half a pound. On my
scale it was a maintain.... It is so messed up now even a
master accountant couldn't figure it out. My old WW goal
was 164, and now it is 159. So I am still Free, which is
what is important.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred
just one more

thing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to shake

Quoted message said:

his head over. <g>

Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
doing fantastic

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

maintenance and that's what matters.

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:11:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>well even with clothes and everything, and the WW
>scale which is a

pound

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos he
>ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

>🙂.
>
>Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
>goal at WW to

159,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just

Quoted message said:

>to give Fred something to gripe about.)
>365/158.8/159
>

Great point! I probably should change mine down to 135, the
140 is a bit loose also but I haven't creeped back to that
point. I'd love to say 130 ... but since I can't seem to
stay there, I don't think it's realistic. <sigh>

Joyce

Lesanne said:

I don't want to go over 160 ever again, so having the WW
goal at 164 was a little too loose for me 🙂

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Free is good and where you want to be. Guess it doesn't
matter how

confusing it

Quoted message said:

is, as long as YOU know where you are supposed to be. And
I suppose

changing that

Quoted message said:

goal in your ww book is a double edged sword. Yes, you
could have left it

alone

Quoted message said:

and had more room to remain free. I also wonder though,
if by keeping it

higher

Quoted message said:

we play a little mind game with ourselves and maybe not
be as strict? It

making

Quoted message said:

it the lower number works for you, and keeps you where
you want to be,

then by all

Quoted message said:

means ... KEEP IT THERE!

Joyce

Lesanne said:

As far as the WW "book" goes I lost a half a pound. On
my scale it was a maintain.... It is so messed up now
even a master accountant couldn't figure it out. My old
WW goal was 164, and now it is 159. So I am still Free,
which is what is important.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred
> just one more

thing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to shake
> his head over. <g>
>
> Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
> doing fantastic

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> maintenance and that's what matters.
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:11:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
> <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> >well even with clothes and everything, and the WW
> >scale which is a

pound

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos
> >he ate, I am under
Fred
> >🙂.
> >
> >Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
> >goal at WW to

159,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just
> >to give Fred something to gripe about.)
> >365/158.8/159
> >
>

Thank you for just giving her a simple Congrats and not
caving to her shifty side thoughts and actions! (G)

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 01:01:46 -0500, Connie

walshclan@nospam_primus.ca said:

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under Fred
🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159, just to give Fred something to gripe
about.)
365/158.8/159

Congrats on the good weigh in Lesanne!!

I guess I really had not realized that you changed YOUR
GOAL. That is a big step. I can see where it provides extra
encouragement to keep it below 160 but I don't think I'm
ready to do that. I hope that I can bounce at or below 160
without forcing the issue with monetary penalties (G)

While skiing yesterday I did have conversations with
myself about the weight stuff. I like being "here" but am
having trouble with the snacking aspects and am not really
in the mood to fully restart journaling - like how much
gorp did I have yesterday and what's sort of 1/3 of an
odwalla bar worth and almost half a Two Point bar?? I
guess that mid-week, I can journal easier than the
backcountry outdoor stuff.

Then musing about meetings and whether I still should
attend. Then, now this was interesting..... Have I lost a
bit of interest because I am not getting as many comments,
meaning, there is no change and no positive reinforcement,
EXTERNAL reinforcement that is, including at WW where us
Lifers are on our own. Now I'm just on my own - a "normal"
thin person!!!!!!!

Ah, introspective musings on a gray day and a solo ski
trip..... (G)

Lesanne said:

Yeah. That is me. Change whatever all the time 🙂

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Change rules, change goals, just like a woman. Does
anything she wants, anytime she wants, any way she wants.

Congrats on whatever anyway (G)

Hopefully, this week's exercise will help = we shall see

Lesanne said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

LOL Lesanne, you are so _nice_ to Fred. 🙂 WTG!

--

~Kristin O~
272/235.4/172

"Lesanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

well even with clothes and everything, and the WW scale
which is a pound heavier than mine, thanks to all those
dried mangos he ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

🙂.

Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my goal
at WW to 159,

just

Quoted message said:

to give Fred something to gripe about.)
365/158.8/159

I think these are very dangerous waters. I also am getting a lot less
attention. And having those "do I need to go to meetings" thoughts. But I
have a background of steady gains each and every time that I leave the
meetings entirely. Knowing that I am going to weigh in each month For Free
is what is keeping me here now. The only thing. I too enjoy eating a bit
more liberally, but it is the thoughts of the weigh in and the torture it
will be if I have to take off say 5 pounds for one, that keeps me under
control enough days of the week to stay under goal. If I were you "normal"
thin person, I would test that by going once a month for a year or so and
see how it works 🙂

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I guess I really had not realized that you changed YOUR
GOAL. That is a big step. I can see where it provides
extra encouragement to keep it below 160 but I don't think
I'm ready to do that. I hope that I can bounce at or below
160 without forcing the issue with monetary penalties (G)

While skiing yesterday I did have conversations with
myself about the weight stuff. I like being "here" but am
having trouble with the snacking aspects and am not really
in the mood to fully restart journaling - like how much
gorp did I have yesterday and what's sort of 1/3 of an
odwalla bar worth and almost half a Two Point bar?? I
guess that mid-week, I can journal easier than the
backcountry outdoor stuff.

Then musing about meetings and whether I still should
attend. Then, now this was interesting..... Have I lost a
bit of interest because I am not getting as many comments,
meaning, there is no change and no positive reinforcement,
EXTERNAL reinforcement that is, including at WW where us
Lifers are on our own. Now I'm just on my own - a "normal"
thin person!!!!!!!

Ah, introspective musings on a gray day and a solo ski
trip..... (G)

Lesanne said:

Yeah. That is me. Change whatever all the time 🙂

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Change rules, change goals, just like a woman. Does
anything she wants, anytime she wants, any way she
wants.

Congrats on whatever anyway (G)

Hopefully, this week's exercise will help = we
shall see

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:11:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>well even with clothes and everything, and the WW
>scale which is a

pound

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos he
>ate, I am under

Fred

Quoted message said:

>🙂.
>
>Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
>goal at WW to

159,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just

Quoted message said:

>to give Fred something to gripe about.)
>365/158.8/159
>

Thanks for the additional feedback.

Since I still go to meetings weekly, the first step, if I
even take it, would be to cut that back to monthly or maybe
even every other week and see how that goes. But for the
moment, I will continue to go weekly and just wait for
another vacation or whatever to break it occasionally.

Lesanne said:

I think these are very dangerous waters. I also am getting
a lot less attention. And having those "do I need to go to
meetings" thoughts. But I have a background of steady gains
each and every time that I leave the meetings entirely.
Knowing that I am going to weigh in each month For Free is
what is keeping me here now. The only thing. I too enjoy
eating a bit more liberally, but it is the thoughts of the
weigh in and the torture it will be if I have to take off
say 5 pounds for one, that keeps me under control enough
days of the week to stay under goal. If I were you "normal"
thin person, I would test that by going once a month for a
year or so and see how it works 🙂

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I guess I really had not realized that you changed YOUR
GOAL. That is a big step. I can see where it provides
extra encouragement to keep it below 160 but I don't
think I'm ready to do that. I hope that I can bounce at
or below 160 without forcing the issue with monetary
penalties (G)

While skiing yesterday I did have conversations with
myself about the weight stuff. I like being "here" but am
having trouble with the snacking aspects and am not
really in the mood to fully restart journaling - like how
much gorp did I have yesterday and what's sort of 1/3 of
an odwalla bar worth and almost half a Two Point bar?? I
guess that mid-week, I can journal easier than the
backcountry outdoor stuff.

Then musing about meetings and whether I still should
attend. Then, now this was interesting..... Have I lost a
bit of interest because I am not getting as many
comments, meaning, there is no change and no positive
reinforcement, EXTERNAL reinforcement that is, including
at WW where us Lifers are on our own. Now I'm just on my
own - a "normal" thin person!!!!!!!

Ah, introspective musings on a gray day and a solo ski
trip..... (G)

Lesanne said:

Yeah. That is me. Change whatever all the time 🙂

"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> Change rules, change goals, just like a woman. Does
> anything she wants, anytime she wants, any way she
> wants.
>
> Congrats on whatever anyway (G)
>
> Hopefully, this week's exercise will help = we
> shall see
>
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:11:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
> >well even with clothes and everything, and the WW
> >scale which is a

pound

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> >heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos
> >he ate, I am under
Fred
> >🙂.
> >
> >Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
> >goal at WW to

159,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

just
> >to give Fred something to gripe about.)
> >365/158.8/159
> >
>

What a wonderful NSV. I was thinking about this the other day. If I set my
goal at the top of the WW chart and then decided to move it down that would
be further success and I would be closer to actually what is right for me.
If I set it in the middle and find that is too difficult I might view this
as a "failure" I think it shows very strong confidence to KNOW for SURE
what your very top limit is and to take all available steps to insure you
are NOT going there, Lee
Lesanne <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I don't want to go over 160 ever again, so having the WW
goal at 164 was a little too loose for me 🙂

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Free is good and where you want to be. Guess it doesn't
matter how

confusing it

Quoted message said:

is, as long as YOU know where you are supposed to be.
And I suppose

changing that

Quoted message said:

goal in your ww book is a double edged sword. Yes, you
could have left

it

Quoted message said:

alone

Quoted message said:

and had more room to remain free. I also wonder though,
if by keeping

it

Quoted message said:

higher

Quoted message said:

we play a little mind game with ourselves and maybe not
be as strict?

It

Quoted message said:

making

Quoted message said:

it the lower number works for you, and keeps you where
you want to be,

then by all

Quoted message said:

means ... KEEP IT THERE!

Joyce

On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 19:28:26 GMT, "Lesanne"
<[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As far as the WW "book" goes I lost a half a pound. On
my scale it was

a

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

maintain.... It is so messed up now even a master
accountant couldn't figure it out. My old WW goal was
164, and now it is 159. So I am still Free, which is
what is important.

"Joyce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]...
> LOL! I love you changing your goal ... give ol' Fred
> just one more

thing

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to shake
> his head over. <g>
>
> Congrats on the loss, maintain, whatever ... you are
> doing fantastic

with

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> maintenance and that's what matters.
>
> Joyce
>
> On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:11:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
> <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> >well even with clothes and everything, and the WW
> >scale which is a

pound

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> >heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos
> >he ate, I am

under

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Fred
> >🙂.
> >
> >Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
> >goal at WW to

159,

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just
> >to give Fred something to gripe about.)
> >365/158.8/159
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I felt funny saying that, because you might not have any
problem at all, I am really relating what I am afraid will
happen to me if I cut loose. I have those same thoughts. It
"seems" like a very seductive idea, to just be "normal". I
don't believe in it any more, not for me. For you, however,
??? Only you can tell.

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Thanks for the additional feedback.

Since I still go to meetings weekly, the first step, if I
even take it, would be to cut that back to monthly or
maybe even every other week and see how that goes. But for
the moment, I will continue to go weekly and just wait for
another vacation or whatever to break it occasionally.

Lesanne said:

I think these are very dangerous waters. I also am
getting a lot less attention. And having those "do I need
to go to meetings" thoughts. But

I

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have a background of steady gains each and every time
that I leave the meetings entirely. Knowing that I am
going to weigh in each month For

Free

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is what is keeping me here now. The only thing. I too
enjoy eating a

bit

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more liberally, but it is the thoughts of the weigh in
and the torture it will be if I have to take off say 5
pounds for one, that keeps me under control enough days
of the week to stay under goal. If I were you

"normal"

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thin person, I would test that by going once a month for
a year or so and see how it works 🙂

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I guess I really had not realized that you changed YOUR
GOAL. That is a big step. I can see where it provides
extra encouragement to keep it below 160 but I don't
think I'm ready to do that. I hope that I can bounce at
or below 160 without forcing the issue with monetary
penalties (G)

While skiing yesterday I did have conversations with
myself about the weight stuff. I like being "here" but
am having trouble with the snacking aspects and am not
really in the mood to fully restart journaling - like
how much gorp did I have yesterday and what's sort of
1/3 of an odwalla bar worth and almost half a Two Point
bar?? I guess that mid-week, I can journal easier than
the backcountry outdoor stuff.

Then musing about meetings and whether I still should
attend. Then, now this was interesting..... Have I lost
a bit of interest because I am not getting as many
comments, meaning, there is no change and no positive
reinforcement, EXTERNAL reinforcement that is,
including at WW where us Lifers are on our own. Now I'm
just on my own - a "normal" thin person!!!!!!!

Ah, introspective musings on a gray day and a solo ski
trip..... (G)

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 13:41:01 GMT, "Lesanne"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

>Yeah. That is me. Change whatever all the time 🙂
>
>"Fred" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>> Change rules, change goals, just like a woman. Does
>> anything she wants, anytime she wants, any way she
>> wants.
>>
>> Congrats on whatever anyway (G)
>>
>> Hopefully, this week's exercise will help = we shall
>> see
>>
>> On Sat, 06 Mar 2004 16:11:07 GMT, "Lesanne"
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>>
>> >well even with clothes and everything, and the WW
>> >scale which is a

pound

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>> >heavier than mine, thanks to all those dried mangos
>> >he ate, I am

under

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>Fred
>> >🙂.
>> >
>> >Lesanne is a happy camper under goal ( I changed my
>> >goal at WW to

159,

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>just
>> >to give Fred something to gripe about.)
>> >365/158.8/159
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