Re: 2 Questions: Healthiest vegetables? & Risk of vitamin A overdose?



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chris

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Thanks for all your thoughtful suggestions.. and to anyone yet to
respond, I neglected to mention that I am a 39-yr-old male
lacto-vegetarian in good health who eats a well-balanced diet
including plenty of fresh fruit, whole grains, and very few processed
or sugary foods (no colas, etc.).

chris
 
chris wrote:
> Thanks for all your thoughtful suggestions.. and to anyone yet to
> respond, I neglected to mention that I am a 39-yr-old male
> lacto-vegetarian in good health who eats a well-balanced diet
> including plenty of fresh fruit, whole grains, and very few processed
> or sugary foods (no colas, etc.).


While I suppose it is none of my business, I'm curious enough to ask the
reason for your questions. Why would you want to know about limiting to
vegetables? I could picture it for a science fiction story where the
survivors on a planet have room in the space ship for only 5 packets of
seeds and then get strange symptoms that turn out to be overdoses of
vitamin A or something like that but can't picture a limit to 5
vegetables as part of a well-balanced diet in this time and place.


--Lia
 
chris wrote:
:: Thanks for all your thoughtful suggestions.. and to anyone yet to
:: respond, I neglected to mention that I am a 39-yr-old male
:: lacto-vegetarian in good health who eats a well-balanced diet
:: including plenty of fresh fruit, whole grains, and very few processed
:: or sugary foods (no colas, etc.).
::
For males favoring onions, tomatoes and broccoli would probably give
some protection against prostate cancer also.

--
Juhana
 
Lia wrote:

> While I suppose it is none of my business, I'm curious enough to ask the
> reason for your questions. Why would you want to know about limiting to
> vegetables? I could picture it for a science fiction story where the
> survivors on a planet have room in the space ship for only 5 packets of
> seeds and then get strange symptoms that turn out to be overdoses of
> vitamin A or something like that but can't picture a limit to 5
> vegetables as part of a well-balanced diet in this time and place.

I eat a well-balanced diet of veggies, fruits, grains, beans, dairy,
and nuts/seeds everyday, but I'm lazy, so I tend to eat the same foods
each day. I try to vary it up as much I can, but I wanted to know if
there was a better combination of veggies than my daily staple of
spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, and carrots (I also eat cucumbers and
alfalfa sprouts at lunch).

thanks,
chris
 
chris wrote:

> I eat a well-balanced diet of veggies, fruits, grains, beans, dairy,
> and nuts/seeds everyday, but I'm lazy, so I tend to eat the same foods
> each day. I try to vary it up as much I can, but I wanted to know if
> there was a better combination of veggies than my daily staple of
> spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, and carrots (I also eat cucumbers and
> alfalfa sprouts at lunch).


Ah, now I understand, and it makes sense. If you want to vary your diet
more without sacrificing your essential laziness (something else I
understand), come here (rfc) for recipes or take a look at the thread on
best vegetarian cookbooks. Oddly enough, it looks like you followed my
earlier advice without knowing what it was. You have something in the
leafy green category (spinach), something in the cabbage family category
(broccoli), something dark orange (carrots) and something flavorful
(tomato). The only think I'd add is a squash like butternut squash.


--Lia
 
On 21 Feb 2005 07:54:20 -0800, [email protected] (chris) wrote:

>I eat a well-balanced diet of veggies, fruits, grains, beans, dairy,
>and nuts/seeds everyday, but I'm lazy, so I tend to eat the same foods
>each day. I try to vary it up as much I can, but I wanted to know if
>there was a better combination of veggies than my daily staple of
>spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, and carrots (I also eat cucumbers and
>alfalfa sprouts at lunch).

I think maybe you are at risk of essential aminoacids deficiency. And
probably betaine/choline deficiency. try some beets, preferably grown
in salty areas as that induce betaine production, and use more beans.
Also wheat bran, wheat germ, whole wheat

Look at
http://www.vitaminexpress.com/healthnotes/newswire_2004_04_08_1.htm

http://www.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/133/5/1302 also contains
some tables on betaine and choline. (and there are several others)

Spinach is also a good source, but in all vegetable where free amino
acids and stuff like betaine is primarily used as osmolytes in order
to keep constant water turgor (hydration level and pressure inside
cells), stress conditions are important. Plants watered daily during
drought spell express far less of these compounds than in vegetables
and other plants irregularly watered during dry periods.
 
Seems important not to miss out on eating berries. Blueberries,
blackberries, and other berries are very high in anitoxidants. Higher
than the foods mentioned, I think. I eat them every day even when I
was only able to buy frozen ones, since I'm guessing berries that were
frozen still contain tons of anthocyanins (sp?).
 
<[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Seems important not to miss out on eating berries. Blueberries,
> blackberries, and other berries are very high in anitoxidants. Higher
> than the foods mentioned, I think. I eat them every day even when I
> was only able to buy frozen ones, since I'm guessing berries that were
> frozen still contain tons of anthocyanins (sp?).

Yes, they still contain it. Anthocyanins are purple.
Berries are an excellent food. Plums and prune
(both fresh and dried) are also good sources.

>
 
Alf Christophersen wrote:
:: On 21 Feb 2005 07:54:20 -0800, [email protected] (chris) wrote:
::
::: I eat a well-balanced diet of veggies, fruits, grains, beans, dairy,
::: and nuts/seeds everyday, but I'm lazy, so I tend to eat the same
::: foods each day. I try to vary it up as much I can, but I wanted to
::: know if there was a better combination of veggies than my daily
::: staple of spinach, broccoli, tomatoes, and carrots (I also eat
::: cucumbers and alfalfa sprouts at lunch).
::
:: I think maybe you are at risk of essential aminoacids deficiency.

Essential amino acids deficiency with a lactovegetarian diet containing
beans, grains and nuts/seeds everyday? :) Please show some evidence.

--
Juhana
 
On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 12:43:53 +0200, "Juhana Harju"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Essential amino acids deficiency with a lactovegetarian diet containing
>beans, grains and nuts/seeds everyday? :) Please show some evidence.

oVerlooked the bean :) Without beans,you are at high risk.

But lysine may be low.
 
Janet wrote:

> Seems important not to miss out on eating berries. Blueberries,
> blackberries, and other berries are very high in anitoxidants. Higher
> than the foods mentioned, I think. I eat them every day even when I
> was only able to buy frozen ones, since I'm guessing berries that were
> frozen still contain tons of anthocyanins (sp?).

Agreed. I eat half a cup of fresh blueberries everyday, year-round.
I also eat 2 bananas everyday, as well as other fruits like raisins,
occasionally grapes and strawberries.

thanks again to everyone for their useful advice..
chris
 
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