Re: Air Consumption

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:47:03 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

So, I did my pool dives this weekend and had a great deal of fun. I
can't wait until I do my lake dives next week and I get my open water
certification.

Anywho, air consumption by a diver is generally based upon how
comfortable the diver is underwater. Someone who is stressed or
panicky will burn through air like no tomorrow. It's the same for
someone who is cold or exerting themselves.

Having said that, I noticed that the more muscle mass one has, the
more air one uses. At least, that is the conclusion I've drawn. We
had a kid that weighed about 110 and was nothing but skin and bone. He
barely used any air. We also had a slim chic (very cute too) who only
used a little more air than the kid. We also had a guy who was very
fat and had some trouble but he used less air than I did. I used the
most, BTW. Also, we had another guy who was rather tall and of normal
build. He weighed 220, he told me. He used nearly as much air as I
did.

So, to summarize, of the ten students, it appeared to me that the most
air was consumed by the people with the most metabolically active
tissue. Any comments on this? Anyone every thought about air
consumption as it relates to muscle mass?

Seems like kind of a no-brainer to me. :-)
The higher the metabolic rate/need, the more oxygen you are going to
need.

Don't forget tho' that the depth you swim is also going to affect your
air usage.

Yes, it increases proportionally as you go deeper (I only got one
wrong on the written test and that was kind of a bad question
anyway...What condition might prevent you from clearing a squeeze.
1. Heart disease
2. Head cold
3. High blood pressure
4. All of the above
I knew number two was correct but I chose number four).

Quoted message said:

At 60', you will use air twice as fast as you do at 30'.

Om -> advanced open water certification, NAUI.

Do you still dive? We could be like dive buddies or something:-)

It's been awhile, but I still have all my stuff.
I'd have to get my regulators serviced. There is a good dive shop here
in town that does that stuff.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:51:40 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:47:03 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote:

> So, I did my pool dives this weekend and had a great deal of fun. I
> can't wait until I do my lake dives next week and I get my open water
> certification.
>
> Anywho, air consumption by a diver is generally based upon how
> comfortable the diver is underwater. Someone who is stressed or
> panicky will burn through air like no tomorrow. It's the same for
> someone who is cold or exerting themselves.
>
> Having said that, I noticed that the more muscle mass one has, the
> more air one uses. At least, that is the conclusion I've drawn. We
> had a kid that weighed about 110 and was nothing but skin and bone. He
> barely used any air. We also had a slim chic (very cute too) who only
> used a little more air than the kid. We also had a guy who was very
> fat and had some trouble but he used less air than I did. I used the
> most, BTW. Also, we had another guy who was rather tall and of normal
> build. He weighed 220, he told me. He used nearly as much air as I
> did.
>
> So, to summarize, of the ten students, it appeared to me that the most
> air was consumed by the people with the most metabolically active
> tissue. Any comments on this? Anyone every thought about air
> consumption as it relates to muscle mass?

Seems like kind of a no-brainer to me. :-)
The higher the metabolic rate/need, the more oxygen you are going to
need.

Don't forget tho' that the depth you swim is also going to affect your
air usage.

Yes, it increases proportionally as you go deeper (I only got one
wrong on the written test and that was kind of a bad question
anyway...What condition might prevent you from clearing a squeeze.
1. Heart disease
2. Head cold
3. High blood pressure
4. All of the above
I knew number two was correct but I chose number four).

Quoted message said:

At 60', you will use air twice as fast as you do at 30'.

Om -> advanced open water certification, NAUI.

Do you still dive? We could be like dive buddies or something:-)

It's been awhile, but I still have all my stuff.
I'd have to get my regulators serviced. There is a good dive shop here
in town that does that stuff.

Are you near the ocean? You live in Texas, right? I hear Padre
Island is a pretty cool place to dive.

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:51:40 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:47:03 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>In article <[email hidden]>,
> John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> So, I did my pool dives this weekend and had a great deal of fun. I
>> can't wait until I do my lake dives next week and I get my open water
>> certification.
>>
>> Anywho, air consumption by a diver is generally based upon how
>> comfortable the diver is underwater. Someone who is stressed or
>> panicky will burn through air like no tomorrow. It's the same for
>> someone who is cold or exerting themselves.
>>
>> Having said that, I noticed that the more muscle mass one has, the
>> more air one uses. At least, that is the conclusion I've drawn. We
>> had a kid that weighed about 110 and was nothing but skin and bone. He
>> barely used any air. We also had a slim chic (very cute too) who only
>> used a little more air than the kid. We also had a guy who was very
>> fat and had some trouble but he used less air than I did. I used the
>> most, BTW. Also, we had another guy who was rather tall and of normal
>> build. He weighed 220, he told me. He used nearly as much air as I
>> did.
>>
>> So, to summarize, of the ten students, it appeared to me that the most
>> air was consumed by the people with the most metabolically active
>> tissue. Any comments on this? Anyone every thought about air
>> consumption as it relates to muscle mass?
>
>Seems like kind of a no-brainer to me. :-)
>The higher the metabolic rate/need, the more oxygen you are going to
>need.
>
>Don't forget tho' that the depth you swim is also going to affect your
>air usage.

Yes, it increases proportionally as you go deeper (I only got one
wrong on the written test and that was kind of a bad question
anyway...What condition might prevent you from clearing a squeeze.
1. Heart disease
2. Head cold
3. High blood pressure
4. All of the above
I knew number two was correct but I chose number four).

>
>At 60', you will use air twice as fast as you do at 30'.
>
>Om -> advanced open water certification, NAUI.

Do you still dive? We could be like dive buddies or something:-)

It's been awhile, but I still have all my stuff.
I'd have to get my regulators serviced. There is a good dive shop here
in town that does that stuff.

Are you near the ocean? You live in Texas, right? I hear Padre
Island is a pretty cool place to dive.

I've not done any ocean diving but would like to.
Yes, I live in Texas but am about 3 hours from the coast.
The San Marcos river is where I've gone, and Canyon lake.
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

On Mon, 15 May 2006 21:32:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

I've not done any ocean diving but would like to.
Yes, I live in Texas but am about 3 hours from the coast.
The San Marcos river is where I've gone, and Canyon lake.

You've got to dive the ocean! It was snorkeling in the Keys that
pushed me to get certified. Speaking of lake diving, I plan on going
here a couple of times this summer:
http://www.gilbertmn.org/ohvra.htm

I'll bring my boat and my ATV as well as my scuba gear. Lake
Ore-be-gone is supposed to be really cool to dive as it is an old iron
mine. You can dive on underwater buildings and such.

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:47:03 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote:

> So, I did my pool dives this weekend and had a great deal of fun. I
> can't wait until I do my lake dives next week and I get my open water
> certification.
>
> Anywho, air consumption by a diver is generally based upon how
> comfortable the diver is underwater. Someone who is stressed or
> panicky will burn through air like no tomorrow. It's the same for
> someone who is cold or exerting themselves.
>
> Having said that, I noticed that the more muscle mass one has, the
> more air one uses. At least, that is the conclusion I've drawn. We
> had a kid that weighed about 110 and was nothing but skin and bone. He
> barely used any air. We also had a slim chic (very cute too) who only
> used a little more air than the kid. We also had a guy who was very
> fat and had some trouble but he used less air than I did. I used the
> most, BTW. Also, we had another guy who was rather tall and of normal
> build. He weighed 220, he told me. He used nearly as much air as I
> did.
>
> So, to summarize, of the ten students, it appeared to me that the most
> air was consumed by the people with the most metabolically active
> tissue. Any comments on this? Anyone every thought about air
> consumption as it relates to muscle mass?
Seems like kind of a no-brainer to me. :-)
The higher the metabolic rate/need, the more oxygen you are going to
need.

Don't forget tho' that the depth you swim is also going to affect your
air usage.

Yes, it increases proportionally as you go deeper (I only got one
wrong on the written test and that was kind of a bad question
anyway...What condition might prevent you from clearing a squeeze.
1. Heart disease
2. Head cold
3. High blood pressure
4. All of the above
I knew number two was correct but I chose number four).

Quoted message said:

At 60', you will use air twice as fast as you do at 30'.

Om -> advanced open water certification, NAUI.

Do you still dive? We could be like dive buddies or something:-)

It's been awhile, but I still have all my stuff.
I'd have to get my regulators serviced. There is a good dive shop here
in town that does that stuff.

If either one of you ever get up to the Pacific Northwest give a line
and we could go dive the San Juan's or the Puget sound area. IT IS COLD,
but there are some great dives up here.

Ryan

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 21:32:42 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

I've not done any ocean diving but would like to.
Yes, I live in Texas but am about 3 hours from the coast.
The San Marcos river is where I've gone, and Canyon lake.

You've got to dive the ocean!

Indeed...
One of these days, I'll go with one of the Can cun "packaged" trips that
the dive shop hosts.

And take an underwater camera. :-)

Quoted message said:

It was snorkeling in the Keys that
pushed me to get certified. Speaking of lake diving, I plan on going
here a couple of times this summer:
http://www.gilbertmn.org/ohvra.htm

I'll bring my boat and my ATV as well as my scuba gear. Lake
Ore-be-gone is supposed to be really cool to dive as it is an old iron
mine. You can dive on underwater buildings and such.

Sounds like a lot of fun!

While our local river is not all that deep, it is a spring fed river so
the water is very clear as long as it's not full of people stirring up
silt. Night diving is especially fun and visibility is incredible. The
year round water temp. is 72 degrees.

I've been trying to get in good with the local archeology group so I can
dive in Spring Lake which is the Origin of the San Marcos.

Another killer river here to dive nearby is the frio.

South Padre Island is supposed to offer decent diving.

The one thing about the gulf coast tho' is that during certain times of
year, it's loaded with jellyfish including Man o' wars.
A full lycra diveskin tho' should protect you from most problems that
way along with a hood.

I have actually snorkeled with a carefully set up weight belt in the San
Marcos river. I check the amount of weight needed in the pool first. ;-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ryan Case said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

John Hanson said:

On Mon, 15 May 2006 10:47:03 -0500, OmManiPadmeOmelet
<[email hidden]> wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

> In article <[email hidden]>,
> John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote:
>
>> So, I did my pool dives this weekend and had a great deal of fun. I
>> can't wait until I do my lake dives next week and I get my open water
>> certification.
>>
>> Anywho, air consumption by a diver is generally based upon how
>> comfortable the diver is underwater. Someone who is stressed or
>> panicky will burn through air like no tomorrow. It's the same for
>> someone who is cold or exerting themselves.
>>
>> Having said that, I noticed that the more muscle mass one has, the
>> more air one uses. At least, that is the conclusion I've drawn. We
>> had a kid that weighed about 110 and was nothing but skin and bone. He
>> barely used any air. We also had a slim chic (very cute too) who only
>> used a little more air than the kid. We also had a guy who was very
>> fat and had some trouble but he used less air than I did. I used the
>> most, BTW. Also, we had another guy who was rather tall and of normal
>> build. He weighed 220, he told me. He used nearly as much air as I
>> did.
>>
>> So, to summarize, of the ten students, it appeared to me that the most
>> air was consumed by the people with the most metabolically active
>> tissue. Any comments on this? Anyone every thought about air
>> consumption as it relates to muscle mass?
> Seems like kind of a no-brainer to me. :-)
> The higher the metabolic rate/need, the more oxygen you are going to
> need.
>
> Don't forget tho' that the depth you swim is also going to affect your
> air usage.
Yes, it increases proportionally as you go deeper (I only got one
wrong on the written test and that was kind of a bad question
anyway...What condition might prevent you from clearing a squeeze.
1. Heart disease
2. Head cold
3. High blood pressure
4. All of the above
I knew number two was correct but I chose number four).

> At 60', you will use air twice as fast as you do at 30'.
>
> Om -> advanced open water certification, NAUI.
Do you still dive? We could be like dive buddies or something:-)

It's been awhile, but I still have all my stuff.
I'd have to get my regulators serviced. There is a good dive shop here
in town that does that stuff.

If either one of you ever get up to the Pacific Northwest give a line
and we could go dive the San Juan's or the Puget sound area. IT IS COLD,
but there are some great dives up here.

Ryan

I have a decent wetsuit...... :-)
I'd love to get to Australia someday and dive the great barrier
reef......
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson

So, OM, on a different subject...

It's really not a good idea to add to a thread about a troll. Cuz it
turns out trolls like attention. Giving them attention keeps them here.

Please do not feed the trolls.

Dally

"Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

So, OM, on a different subject...

It's really not a good idea to add to a thread about a troll. Cuz it
turns out trolls like attention. Giving them attention keeps them here.

Please do not feed the trolls.

Dilly, I think Om has already made in clear he has a mind of his own. He can
think for himself. He already has a mother.

On Tue, 16 May 2006 07:11:29 -0700, Ryan Case <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

If either one of you ever get up to the Pacific Northwest give a line
and we could go dive the San Juan's or the Puget sound area. IT IS COLD,
but there are some great dives up here.

I will! I know it's cold but it isn't any colder than Lake Superior.
I hope to dive the ship wrecks up there next year, at the latest.

John Hanson said:

On Tue, 16 May 2006 07:11:29 -0700, Ryan Case <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

If either one of you ever get up to the Pacific Northwest give a line
and we could go dive the San Juan's or the Puget sound area. IT IS COLD,
but there are some great dives up here.

I will! I know it's cold but it isn't any colder than Lake Superior.
I hope to dive the ship wrecks up there next year, at the latest.

Give us a shout. Know a couple of divers with access to boats set up for
diving. We could make a weekend out of it. My f-i-l and a buddy just
finished nitrox certification last weekend and dove a bunch of wrecks.

Anyway, just shoot me an e-mail. This is a valid addy.

Ryan

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ryan Case said:

John Hanson said:

On Tue, 16 May 2006 07:11:29 -0700, Ryan Case <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

If either one of you ever get up to the Pacific Northwest give a line
and we could go dive the San Juan's or the Puget sound area. IT IS COLD,
but there are some great dives up here.

I will! I know it's cold but it isn't any colder than Lake Superior.
I hope to dive the ship wrecks up there next year, at the latest.

Give us a shout. Know a couple of divers with access to boats set up for
diving. We could make a weekend out of it. My f-i-l and a buddy just
finished nitrox certification last weekend and dove a bunch of wrecks.

Anyway, just shoot me an e-mail. This is a valid addy.

Ryan

Cool. :-)
--
Peace!
Om

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a Son of a [censored]"
-- Jack Nicholson