On Dec 3, 3:43 pm, MagillaGorilla <
[email protected]> wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> > On Dec 3, 10:49 am, Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>On Dec 3, 7:30 am, Bob Schwartz <[email protected]>
> >>wrote:
>
> >>>Scott wrote:
>
> >>>>I'm just curious, but what is it about this topic that so captivates
> >>>>you? You're the only person to ever bring this concept up AND you're
> >>>>apparently the only person who tries to refute what has been proven
> >>>>both mathematically and empirically.
>
> >>>>Is this the ultimate troll for you or are you just unwilling to change
> >>>>your mind no matter how much evidence to the contrary of your view is
> >>>>presented?
>
> >>>Magilla has a trolling style that depends on volume. He
> >>>needs to constantly pick at the troll in order to keep
> >>>it bleeding. One technique he uses is to doggedly defend
> >>>indefensible positions.
>
> >>>I'd just let it go.
>
> >>>Bob Schwartz
>
> >>I was just trolling the troll, to see how he'd respond. Sort of like
> >>picking a scab.- Hide quoted text -
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> > OK Magilla, build your velodrome in straight line, if you think it is
> > a better idea.
> > I'll keep building them oval and let the market decide.
> > P.J.
>
> If you are in fact a hamster wheel builder, you should take home from
> this debate that you should build the largest velodrome oval you can get
> away with under the rules if you want your track to set records.
>
> So drop your cute attitude before I wipe the taste out of your mouth.
>
> Magilla- Hide quoted text -
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I have built a few velodromes, see:
www.junek-velodromes.com
First two with my own money to provide a facility for St. Catharines
C.C.(Ont.,Canada), where Gord Singleton, Steve Bauer and many other
good ones came from. I know a bit about the mechanics of velodrome
riding and I am also racing on them for last 50 years. We are talking
here about fairly insignificant technical details, conditions are the
same for everybody racing on each particular velodrome, or piece of
road, what is the problem?
The only significant difference between straight road and oval
velodrome is factor of leaning for timed distance records.
For 1 hour record, for instance, rider's center of gravity would
travel 177.2 meters shorter distance on 250 meters velodrome, because
of leaning. Shorter the track, more lean and shorter the distance
which will rider's center of gravity travel. Somewhere around 200
meters track, physiological effect of increased G forces may start to
be negative. Trust me on this, I know how it feels, have raced on
velodromes from 120m to 500 meters, including pro six day races.
Your theory about longer the track the better is not correct, in this
respect.
Peter Junek