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  1. I have an issue. I've never cleaned my bearings before, and (obviously)
    need to. But I'm not sure how to get it all apart. I have an '05 Torker
    DX, and would appreciate any help you could offer.

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  2. spazdude222 said:

    I have an issue. I've never cleaned my bearings before, and (obviously)
    need to. But I'm not sure how to get it all apart. I have an '05 Torker
    DX, and would appreciate any help you could offer.

    A little maintenance can go a long way. In Terry's case, all in the
    wrong direction.

    I would strongly suggest avoiding anything you have ever read about
    bearing maintenance on this forum ! I have never came across such a
    band of fools with such horrid "luck"🙄 keeping such a simple
    device turning in my life.

    I have a dual sport 600 cc 300 lb motorcycle in my garage. It's wheels
    are held by an identical pair of bearings as is found on my uni's. It
    is 20 years old and has been ridden 26,000 miles , much of it through
    mud and water 2 feet deep. Like most of the dozen motor cycles I have
    owned in the last 35 years, I have not had to replace the wheel
    bearings. I have a 450 lb honda that has 78,000 miles on it. When I
    last changed the tires, I checked the bearings by turning them with my
    finger. Because they turned smoothly, my "maintenance " was done, and I
    reinstalled the wheel. I trust that wheel will go another 10,000 miles
    with no trouble.

    The reason my bearings last is because I never sprayed them with wd40.
    That would penetrate the seal and damage the grease. I also never pry
    the seals off, because they were installed correctly at the factory and
    I don't want to damage them.

    In short, my bearings last because I do not ruin them by screwing them
    up. They are designed to be waterproof and go for 100,000 miles at 100
    MPH carrying a load of 500 lbs each. And they don't need no stinking
    maintenance!

    Also, now that Terry has removed his bearings, he should throw them
    away. The correct way to install the bearing is to tap only on the
    inner race. Most pullers will remove the bearing by hooking the outer
    race and pulling it out. This damages the bearing, but that's ok. A
    professional wrench never removes a bearing until he is ready to
    replace it. He knows that they need no "service", and will pull the
    bearing off only because it sticks when turned with a finger. Then he
    drives a new bearing on using a tube that allows it to be pushed on by
    the inner race.

    It is especially important to leave the bearings on a Torker alone.
    They are a unique size, and cost 30$ a pair. Most uni bearings are of a
    standard size that can be bought from any bearing supply for 2 $ each.
    If you want the bearings on your Torker to last 20 years, leave them
    alone ! Spray the uni off with a hose. Never blast a pressure washer
    at the bearings !

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  3. feel the light said:

    A little maintenance can go a long way. In Terry's case, all in the
    wrong direction.

    I would strongly suggest avoiding anything you have ever read about
    bearing maintenance on this forum ! I have never came across such a
    band of fools with such horrid "luck"🙄 keeping such a simple
    device turning in my life.

    I have a dual sport 600 cc 300 lb motorcycle in my garage. It's wheels
    are held by an identical pair of bearings as is found on my uni's. It
    is 20 years old and has been ridden 26,000 miles , much of it through
    mud and water 2 feet deep. Like most of the dozen motor cycles I have
    owned in the last 35 years, I have not had to replace the wheel
    bearings. I have a 450 lb honda that has 78,000 miles on it. When I
    last changed the tires, I checked the bearings by turning them with my
    finger. Because they turned smoothly, my "maintenance " was done, and I
    reinstalled the wheel. I trust that wheel will go another 10,000 miles
    with no trouble.

    The reason my bearings last is because I never sprayed them with wd40.
    That would penetrate the seal and damage the grease. I also never pry
    the seals off, because they were installed correctly at the factory and
    I don't want to damage them.

    In short, my bearings last because I do not ruin them by screwing them
    up. They are designed to be waterproof and go for 100,000 miles at 100
    MPH carrying a load of 500 lbs each. And they don't need no stinking
    maintenance!

    Also, now that Terry has removed his bearings, he should throw them
    away. The correct way to install the bearing is to tap only on the
    inner race. Most pullers will remove the bearing by hooking the outer
    race and pulling it out. This damages the bearing, but that's ok. A
    professional wrench never removes a bearing until he is ready to
    replace it. He knows that they need no "service", and will pull the
    bearing off only because it sticks when turned with a finger. Then he
    drives a new bearing on using a tube that allows it to be pushed on by
    the inner race.

    It is especially important to leave the bearings on a Torker alone.
    They are a unique size, and cost 30$ a pair. Most uni bearings are of a
    standard size that can be bought from any bearing supply for 2 $ each.
    If you want the bearings on your Torker to last 20 years, leave them
    alone ! Spray the uni off with a hose. Never blast a pressure washer
    at the bearings !

    What the hell man? Why are you bashing me? I only removed, cleaned and
    repacked my bearings *ONCE* after it fell into a chemical laden
    man-made pond! The result was that the bearings once again turned
    smoothly after that, and served my needs until i got NEW bearings from
    UDC about a week later. I now have a good supply of these bearings for
    future use, so I won't have anymore need to take them apart. I would
    truly appreciate you not flaming me calling me and others a "fool"!

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  4. MuniAddict said:

    I would truly appreciate you not flaming me calling me and others a
    "fool"!

    Yeah. We're not fools. We're clowns.

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  5. MuniAddict said:

    What the hell man?

    FTL put together a well-explained post, as opposed to the usual
    hit-and-run flame posts we see here, and you take it personal? This
    man made a great argument for not maintaining bearings, and not the
    common-sense time-is-money argument, and you take it as a personal
    attack?

    In a way, FTL is right. A lot of users on these forums are backyard
    mechanics with little formal training or textbook knowledge of the
    subject, and yes, we're lucky that we've avoided screwing up many of
    our machines.

    When a slip of the screwdriver in inexperienced hands leads to a $1000
    screw-up then, yes, it was foolish to pick up the screwdriver in the
    first place. Luckily, our mistakes cost much less to fix. You can't
    bag on us for trying, FTL, but as you did, you can educate us.

    WTH back at you, Terry. This is about bearings, not you. Take a chill
    pill.

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  6. maestro8 said:

    FTL put together a well-explained post, as opposed to the usual
    hit-and-run flame posts we see here, and you take it personal? This
    man made a great argument for not maintaining bearings, and not the
    common-sense time-is-money argument, and you take it as a personal
    attack?

    In a way, FTL is right. A lot of users on these forums are backyard
    mechanics with little formal training or textbook knowledge of the
    subject, and yes, we're lucky that we've avoided screwing up many of
    our machines.

    When a slip of the screwdriver in inexperienced hands leads to a $1000
    screw-up then, yes, it was foolish to pick up the screwdriver in the
    first place. Luckily, our mistakes cost much less to fix. You can't
    bag on us for trying, FTL, but as you did, you can educate us.

    WTH back at you, Terry. This is about bearings, not you. Take a chill
    pill.

    First of all Misstro, mind you own business! My post was directed
    towards "feelthelight", NOT YOU! He's a big boy and doesn't need YOU to
    answer for him! You always stick your f##king nose into [censored] when it's
    about me. You take a f##king chill pill! I'm sick of you man, period.
    My posts were about bearing maintinence too and what worked for me! If
    that's ALL his post is about, then don't dis me personally dammit!

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  7. MuniAddict said:

    First of all Misstro, mind you own business! My post was directed
    towards "feelthelight", NOT YOU! He's a big boy and doesn't need YOU to
    answer for him! You always stick your f##king nose into [censored] when it's
    about me. You take a f##king chill pill! I'm sick of you man, period.
    My posts were about bearing maintinence too and what worked for me! If
    that's ALL his post is about, then don't dis me personally dammit!

    Terry, i usually try to not moderate people, but you need to calm down.
    FLT had a diffrance of opinion and you overreacted a little teeny bit,
    and someone called you out. Then you EXPLODED, you seem like a
    reasonable man. Pop in to MR if you need to rant and be angry, try and
    leave it out of RSU

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    and back to creepy horny men.

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    where I work, so that show of self control is pretty much cancelled
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  8. Yeah, man...
    let's start talking about bearings again and forget this...

    I use thick grease and it works wonders for me.

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  9. harper said:

    Yeah. We're not fools. We're clowns.

    I hate you. I really do.

    You're a disgrace.

    NOTICE:THIS IS DIRECTED ONLY AT HARPER AND HIS COMMENT!

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  10. I was directing my post at him, that's why I quoted him at the start.

    As far as the "band of fools part", I have no idea why Terry is so sure
    that must include him. LOL !🙂 He is surely one of the better riders
    on the board, (and I am not) LOL ! What I was trying to describe is how
    a person that knows little, may ask 5 people who know less what to do,
    and then start fooling around with something that ain't broke until
    they fixed it.

    Having said that, I think fooling around with stuff is a great idea. If
    I had 10$ for every 100$ of stuff I've ruined, I could buy a new
    Shlumph and hire Kris himself to paint it pink and Paris Hilton to
    bring it to my door. When it comes to foolish ruination, I doubt there
    are many here in my league.

    That said, I have saved enough money to buy a house, then fixed it
    myself. Bought a van for 200 $ in '76 and drove it for 120,000 miles
    and 11 years. Have rebuilt motorcycles, boats, and computers. The only
    thing I won't do myself is dentistry and broken bones. Gotta draw the
    line somewhere .

    So IMHO the uni is a fine place to start. Don't stop there. Buy a van
    that doesn't run for a few hundred dollars, spend twice as much as that
    on your tool box, and I bet you will end up way ahead eventually, but
    not every time.
    I wish there was a way to fool around and learn without doing something
    foolish once in a while. A good place to start is to try not to work on
    stuff that isn't broke ! LOL

    Another thing about uni bearings, there is another way to screw them
    up. Take the wheel off to check them. I would normally do this only at
    tire changes. Turn the outer part of the bearing with your finger about
    20 times. It should have a nice smooth feeling, with some drag, cause
    it's full of grease. Assuming it's good, when you put the wheel back
    on, it is possible on most uni's to tighten the caps to much. You won't
    notice it riding until they really [censored] out.

    The trick is that the caps don't fit on all the way, on most uni's. So
    if you tighten it down to much, the cap will squeeze the outer bearing
    out of round, and this will make the bearing fail soon.

    So spin the wheel when the caps are loose, count the spins. Then as you
    tighten the caps down, notice at which point the wheel does not spin as
    freely. Back off the cap nuts a bit until it spins free again, that
    should be about right. If that seems to loose to you, use blue loctite
    on the nuts, but don't tighten it more cause you will warp the bearing.

    There is no reason uni bearings should not last 20+ years with no
    maintenance at all. Spray the uni off with a hose, and avoid blasting
    the seals with solvent or pressure water and you should be styling a
    real long time.🙂

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  11. feel the light said:

    The only thing I won't do myself is dentistry and broken bones.

    Sissy. You haven't lived until you've super-glued your own crown back
    on.

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  12. And I doubt it will fall off, cause the guy who put it on likes to
    charge 900$ a pop. And he told me I can complain.

    To Terry, slightly off the subject, but Terry is a hero here. I have
    watched his videos. As the weather grows cooler (it was 88 today!), I
    plan to go over Terry's great video's soon, put on lot'sa body amour
    (still to hot now) and try to free mount my 36. I really get a lot of
    encouragement from Terry's success.

    Terry, I hope you make more 36 vids.🙂 Being a great rider is rarer
    then being a great wrench. A wrench can make dreams possible, but it
    takes a rider to live them.🙂

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  13. What if my wheel won't spin anymore...Something tells me that they
    *NEED* mantinence...

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