Re: [censored] cycle path

Iain Jones said:

"Richard Bullock" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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The local paper in Wilmslow, Cheshire reported on a cycle track which
was in planning - which would be a designated "local cycle route" on
the Sustrans scheme. The planning permission was overturned because it
was too dangerous - the reason? A set of 80 or so steps was to form an
integral part of the cycle route where the cycle track came up against
a 1:12 incline which rises a total of 23 metres.

Brilliant! Do these people know what a bike is? Is it a cycle track
specifically for trials riders?

Prabably had a surplus of Cyclist Dismount signs they were hoping to use up.

Tony

Tony Raven said:

Prabably had a surplus of Cyclist Dismount signs they were hoping to
use up.

Tee-hee!

I have been using a short stretch of Sustrans path to avoid Nastiness. I'm
going to have to stop usig it; it was marginal on the tourer but is bloody
unpleasant on the 'bent. Why? Because Sustrans, in their infinite wisdom,
have chosen to spread loose gravel over the tarmac surface. Somebody really
out to point out to them that the "trans" part means "transport", which
means that you can't assume balloon-tyred MTBs will be the only bikes.

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I have been using a short stretch of Sustrans path to avoid Nastiness.

I'm

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going to have to stop usig it; it was marginal on the tourer but is bloody
unpleasant on the 'bent. Why? Because Sustrans, in their infinite

wisdom,

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have chosen to spread loose gravel over the tarmac surface. Somebody

really

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out to point out to them that the "trans" part means "transport", which
means that you can't assume balloon-tyred MTBs will be the only bikes.

I took an old MTB along to do short sections of the Trans-Pennine Trail -
I've done the bit from Spike Island, Widnes to somewhere East of Stockport -
and the quality varies enormously. The section along the former railway
between Altrincham and Lymm is actually quite good (although has annoying
gates where it meets a couple of minor roads) - and certain bits in
Warrington are ok - the section past Fiddlers Ferry power station was almost
impassable on foot let alone on a bike - it was so overgrown. The bit from
the end of the end of the railway to the east of Stockport is generally
quite [censored] - the surfacing is very poor - I certainly wouldn't recommend
doing it on anything with smaller wheels than my MTB - and one particular
section East of Stockport - I wouldn't recommend doing it on a bike at all -
I nearly broke a wheel. I hope that bit has been properly surfaced now/ or
an alternative route found - rather than just saying that large loose rocks
are an adequate surface.

Tony Raven said:

Prabably had a surplus of Cyclist Dismount signs they were hoping to use up.

William. I think they gave a job lot to British Waterways too - on a
whim I rode home up the tow path (Regent's Canal, Hertford Union Canal,
river Lea) yesterday and there were a profusion of signs forbidding the
riding of bicycles under bridges.

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"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I have been using a short stretch of Sustrans path to avoid Nastiness. I'm
going to have to stop usig it; it was marginal on the tourer but is bloody
unpleasant on the 'bent. Why? Because Sustrans, in their infinite wisdom,
have chosen to spread loose gravel over the tarmac surface. Somebody really
out to point out to them that the "trans" part means "transport", which
means that you can't assume balloon-tyred MTBs will be the only bikes.

But that would involve them having some knowledge of what they were doing.
Interested to see John Grimshaw in a letter to AtoB saying no-one in Sustrans
"has any knowledge that trikes cannot be used on bridleways". So no one is
Sustrans has heard of that fundamental piece of rights of way for cyclists
legislation, The Countryside Act 1968, which only allows bicycles and not
tricycles or unicycles on bridleways then.

Tony

Dave Larrington <[email hidden]> wrote in
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Tony Raven said:

Prabably had a surplus of Cyclist Dismount signs they were hoping to
use up.

William. I think they gave a job lot to British Waterways too - on a
whim I rode home up the tow path (Regent's Canal, Hertford Union
Canal, river Lea) yesterday and there were a profusion of signs
forbidding the riding of bicycles under bridges.

Plenty of those up here too. I'll never understand why they build a
cycleway and then put "Cyclists Dismount" signs every time it meets some
kind of obstruction.

On Tue, 11 May 2004 17:21:03 +0000 (UTC) someone who may be Iain
Jones <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

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Plenty of those up here too. I'll never understand why they build a
cycleway and then put "Cyclists Dismount" signs every time it meets some
kind of obstruction.

Officials are either stupid or intimidated.

They would of course never dream of putting up a "Motorists get out
and push sign", when they start doing so it is time for cyclists to
consider the request to dismount.

The double standards of officials was also demonstrated by the foot
& mouth "crisis". Cycle paths were closed, but not roads. A risk
assessment shows that roads are more likely to spread the disease,
but cyclists can be picked on.

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prevents me using the RIP Act 2000.

Iain Jones said:

I'll never understand why they build a
cycleway and then put "Cyclists Dismount" signs every time it meets some
kind of obstruction.

Or even stop cyclists altogether as here in Bristol which I came across
last month.
Is it, or isn't it?

http://freespace.virgin.net/jpb.design/bristol.html

John B

JohnB <[email hidden]> wrote in news:[email hidden]:

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Iain Jones said:

I'll never understand why they build a
cycleway and then put "Cyclists Dismount" signs every time it meets some
kind of obstruction.

Or even stop cyclists altogether as here in Bristol which I came across
last month.
Is it, or isn't it?

http://freespace.virgin.net/jpb.design/bristol.html

John B

Now *that's* clever. Standard cycle lane, but excluding upright bikes.
Recumbents only. Maybe?

in message <[email hidden]>, JohnB ([email hidden]'😉

Quoted message said:

Iain Jones said:

I'll never understand why they build a
cycleway and then put "Cyclists Dismount" signs every time it meets
some kind of obstruction.

Or even stop cyclists altogether as here in Bristol which I came
across last month.
Is it, or isn't it?

http://freespace.virgin.net/jpb.design/bristol.html

Now that one really is worthy of a prize.

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Iain Jones said:

I'll never understand why they build a
cycleway and then put "Cyclists Dismount" signs every time it meets
some kind of obstruction.

It's because (a) the cycleway is for the convenience of cagers not cyclists
and (b) it is so self-evidently dangerous that even the council, in their
infinite cluelessness, can't fail to recognise it. The possibility of
option (c), doing the job properly, of course never occurs to them.

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"David Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Officials are either stupid or intimidated.

Its the cheapest way of risk mitigation in their risk analysis.

Tony

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Or even stop cyclists altogether as here in Bristol whic

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Now that one really is worthy of a prize

How fantastically [censored]. Send it in to C+ and you almost certainly wil
win a prize

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