Re: EXTREMELY IMPORTANT: Please forward this to everyone.

I like the "delusion of evolution" part.
Evolution is a fact and I would suppose that the quote is referring to
the "origins of man" which isn't the same.
If nature doesn't evolve, then all creatures on the current planet
that don't swim or fly were on Noah's ark... in pairs I might add.
Research has shown that the ark would have been at least 450 feet long
[137.16 meters], 75 feet wide [22.86 meters] and 45 feet high, with a
sq. footage of 100,000.
The United Nations Environment Programme's Global Biodiversity
Assessment estimates the number of living species on the earth at
approximately 1.75 million, but very little is known about the vast
numbers of species groups such as arthropods, fungi, and nematodes
which many would've been destroyed in the flood had they not been on
the ark as well.

Considering the size of just a few hundred different species, I find
it difficult to believe that 2 and a half million anything (with the
exception of insects) could fit in 100,000 sq.ft.

Yeah I know I suck... I shouldn't allow myself to be suckered into
these futile discussions as we all know you can't argue with faith...
but hey... I just can't ignore the idea that we all came from an
incestuous origin and the thought of being somehow related to you all
compliments of Adam and Eve makes me want to vomit. kev 😉

kevnbro said:

Yeah I know I suck... I shouldn't allow myself to be suckered into
these futile discussions as we all know you can't argue with faith...
but hey... I just can't ignore the idea that we all came from an
incestuous origin and the thought of being somehow related to you all
compliments of Adam and Eve makes me want to vomit. kev 😉

Um, kev, TMI.

Hey I enjoy that actually. No reason to not have futile discussions,
it's a good way of passing time in good company! You know the more I
see this world, the more I find nothing is not futile anyway, so might
as well enjoy every bit of it! Cheers. :o)

Quoted message said:

For example, there are about 300 different types of
dogs. But only one pair of dogs was necessary on the
Ark and they are being dishonest when they claim
that every type of dog would have to be on the Ark,
especially considering that even a few hundred years
ago, we had a smaller variety of dogs. Things have
been observed to diversify. They have never been
observed to become something else entirely and
the fossil record does NOT support that idea.

You saying a couple of Shnauzer's were the parents to several hundred
different known breeds of dog? Be real man.

Quoted message said:

Things have been observed to diversify.

Stock owners "diversify"- dogs evolve, along with everything else that
lives an breaths. Kev

On 26 Jan 2006 13:00:54 -0800, "kevnbro"
<[email hidden]> spake thusly:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

For example, there are about 300 different types of
dogs. But only one pair of dogs was necessary on the
Ark and they are being dishonest when they claim
that every type of dog would have to be on the Ark,
especially considering that even a few hundred years
ago, we had a smaller variety of dogs. Things have
been observed to diversify. They have never been
observed to become something else entirely and
the fossil record does NOT support that idea.

You saying a couple of Shnauzer's were the parents to several hundred
different known breeds of dog? Be real man.

If you are too stupid to do some research,
that is your problem. And apparently you
are quite stupid, or you would not be trying
to argue that variation in dogs did not happen.

Goodbye, idiot.

--

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34

Quoted message said:

Goodbye, idiot.

Bye Pastor Dave!!!
God'll forgive you for calling me an idiot!!
I do too!! kev

I wish this argument would evolve. Sheesh

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 20:43:52 GMT, Pastor Dave
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Must you post this proselytizing in alt.support.diabetes newsgroup?
Are you trying to emulate Chung?

Don't bother to answer since I will not see anything you say.

Plunk your magic twanger Froggie!
--
Grandpa Chuck
-ô¿ô-
~

The following information is given with the utmost respect
for the armed forces and civilians who have died in the
current war in Iraq. According to http://icasualties.org/oif/
The number of Americans killed in Iraq as of Jan. 25, 2006 is 2,239.
United Kingdom = 98
Other = 103
Iraqi deaths in excess of 30,000
according to President Bush - probably many more.

Doug Kanter said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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oldwetdog said:

SIGNS OF THE TIMES: EARTHQUAKES

Deaths due to Natural Disaster, Earthquake and Tsunami, may be among the
highest ever recorded.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the tendency of people to live in
places they know are dangerous, right?

Correct.

Quoted message said:

Like dummies who build expensive
houses on beaches in hurricane-prone climates?

It seems that you have chosen to judge others. It remains my personal
choice to refrain (Matthew 7).

Please forward the following link to everyone:

http://tinyurl.com/8juld

Prayerfully in Christ's love always and forever,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified in Cardiology and Internal Medicine
Advisor to the Wellness Foundation, Inc.
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com
Founder of HeartMDPhD.com
http://www.HeartMDPhD.com
Author of EmoryCardiology.com
http://www.EmoryCardiology.com

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Doug Kanter said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

oldwetdog wrote:
> SIGNS OF THE TIMES: EARTHQUAKES
>
> Deaths due to Natural Disaster, Earthquake and Tsunami, may be among
> the
> highest ever recorded.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the tendency of people to live in
places they know are dangerous, right?

Correct.

Quoted message said:

Like dummies who build expensive
houses on beaches in hurricane-prone climates?

It seems that you have chosen to judge others. It remains my personal
choice to refrain (Matthew 7).

When people build fancy homes 200 feet from the high tide mark, and then
complain (and file insurance claims) when those homes are destroyed by
storms, you're damned right I judge them. They're [censored], and so are you
if you disagree.

"Pastor Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On 26 Jan 2006 13:00:54 -0800, "kevnbro"
<[email hidden]> spake thusly:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

For example, there are about 300 different types of
dogs. But only one pair of dogs was necessary on the
Ark and they are being dishonest when they claim
that every type of dog would have to be on the Ark,
especially considering that even a few hundred years
ago, we had a smaller variety of dogs. Things have
been observed to diversify. They have never been
observed to become something else entirely and
the fossil record does NOT support that idea.

You saying a couple of Shnauzer's were the parents to several hundred
different known breeds of dog? Be real man.

If you are too stupid to do some research,
that is your problem. And apparently you
are quite stupid, or you would not be trying
to argue that variation in dogs did not happen.

In other words you're saying the dogs on Noah's Ark evolved from one pair of
mutts into the hundreds of breeds of dogs on earth today.

Evalution is great, ain't it?

Freckles

Doug Kanter said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Doug Kanter said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> oldwetdog wrote:
>> SIGNS OF THE TIMES: EARTHQUAKES
>>
>> Deaths due to Natural Disaster, Earthquake and Tsunami, may be among
>> the
>> highest ever recorded.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the tendency of people to live in
places they know are dangerous, right?

Correct.

Quoted message said:

Like dummies who build expensive
houses on beaches in hurricane-prone climates?

It seems that you have chosen to judge others. It remains my personal
choice to refrain (Matthew 7).

When people build fancy homes 200 feet from the high tide mark, and then
complain (and file insurance claims) when those homes are destroyed by
storms, you're damned right I judge them. They're [censored], and so are you
if you disagree.

It remains my choice to refrain from judging either them or you.
Because they remain alive for you to judge, these affluent folks are
not included in the **death** count.

Truth is simple.

Again, please forward the following link to everyone:

http://tinyurl.com/8juld

Prayerfully in Christ's love always and forever,

Andrew
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-certified in Cardiology and Internal Medicine
Advisor to the Wellness Foundation, Inc.
http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com
Founder of HeartMDPhD.com
http://www.HeartMDPhD.com
Author of EmoryCardiology.com
http://www.EmoryCardiology.com

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Quoted message said:

Doug Kanter said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Doug Kanter wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > oldwetdog wrote:
> >> SIGNS OF THE TIMES: EARTHQUAKES
> >>
> >> Deaths due to Natural Disaster, Earthquake and Tsunami, may be
> >> among
> >> the
> >> highest ever recorded.
>
> Of course, this has nothing to do with the tendency of people to live
> in
> places they know are dangerous, right?

Correct.

> Like dummies who build expensive
> houses on beaches in hurricane-prone climates?

It seems that you have chosen to judge others. It remains my personal
choice to refrain (Matthew 7).

When people build fancy homes 200 feet from the high tide mark, and then
complain (and file insurance claims) when those homes are destroyed by
storms, you're damned right I judge them. They're [censored], and so are
you
if you disagree.

It remains my choice to refrain from judging either them or you.
Because they remain alive for you to judge, these affluent folks are
not included in the **death** count.

Truth is simple.

How infantile, basing all the decisions in your life on a novel published
2000+ years ago. Must be nice to not have to evaluate your actions, eh?

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Doug Kanter said:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Doug Kanter wrote:
> "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> > oldwetdog wrote:
> >> SIGNS OF THE TIMES: EARTHQUAKES
> >>
> >> Deaths due to Natural Disaster, Earthquake and Tsunami, may be
> >> among
> >> the
> >> highest ever recorded.
>
> Of course, this has nothing to do with the tendency of people to live
> in
> places they know are dangerous, right?

Correct.

> Like dummies who build expensive
> houses on beaches in hurricane-prone climates?

It seems that you have chosen to judge others. It remains my personal
choice to refrain (Matthew 7).

When people build fancy homes 200 feet from the high tide mark, and then
complain (and file insurance claims) when those homes are destroyed by
storms, you're damned right I judge them. They're [censored], and so are
you
if you disagree.

It remains my choice to refrain from judging either them or you.
Because they remain alive for you to judge, these affluent folks are
not included in the **death** count.

Truth is simple.

How infantile, basing all the decisions in your life on a novel published
2000+ years ago. Must be nice to not have to evaluate your actions, eh?

Freckles <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| "Pastor Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| On 26 Jan 2006 13:00:54 -0800, "kevnbro"
||| <[email hidden]> spake thusly:
|||
||||| For example, there are about 300 different types of
||||| dogs. But only one pair of dogs was necessary on the
||||| Ark and they are being dishonest when they claim
||||| that every type of dog would have to be on the Ark,
||||| especially considering that even a few hundred years
||||| ago, we had a smaller variety of dogs. Things have
||||| been observed to diversify. They have never been
||||| observed to become something else entirely and
||||| the fossil record does NOT support that idea.
||||
|||| You saying a couple of Shnauzer's were the parents to
|||| several hundred different known breeds of dog? Be real man.
|||
||| If you are too stupid to do some research,
||| that is your problem. And apparently you
||| are quite stupid, or you would not be trying
||| to argue that variation in dogs did not happen.
||
|| In other words you're saying the dogs on Noah's Ark evolved
|| from one pair of mutts into the hundreds of breeds of dogs on
|| earth today.
||
|| Evalution is great, ain't it?
||
|| Freckles

I had a dog named Freckles when I was a kid, now its a person.
Ain't evolution great..... :-)

--
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go
where THEY went." -- Will Rogers

Freckles <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| "Pastor Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
|| news:[email hidden]...
||| On 26 Jan 2006 13:00:54 -0800, "kevnbro"
||| <[email hidden]> spake thusly:
|||
||||| For example, there are about 300 different types of
||||| dogs. But only one pair of dogs was necessary on the
||||| Ark and they are being dishonest when they claim
||||| that every type of dog would have to be on the Ark,
||||| especially considering that even a few hundred years
||||| ago, we had a smaller variety of dogs. Things have
||||| been observed to diversify. They have never been
||||| observed to become something else entirely and
||||| the fossil record does NOT support that idea.
||||
|||| You saying a couple of Shnauzer's were the parents to
|||| several hundred different known breeds of dog? Be real man.
|||
||| If you are too stupid to do some research,
||| that is your problem. And apparently you
||| are quite stupid, or you would not be trying
||| to argue that variation in dogs did not happen.
||
|| In other words you're saying the dogs on Noah's Ark evolved
|| from one pair of mutts into the hundreds of breeds of dogs on
|| earth today.
||
|| Evalution is great, ain't it?
||
|| Freckles

I had a dog named Freckles when I was a kid, now its a person.
Ain't evolution great..... :-)

--
"If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die, I want to go
where THEY went." -- Will Rogers

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:30 -0600, "Freckles"
<[email hidden]> spake thusly:

Quoted message said:

"Pastor Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On 26 Jan 2006 13:00:54 -0800, "kevnbro"
<[email hidden]> spake thusly:

Quoted message said:

>For example, there are about 300 different types of
>dogs. But only one pair of dogs was necessary on the
>Ark and they are being dishonest when they claim
>that every type of dog would have to be on the Ark,
>especially considering that even a few hundred years
>ago, we had a smaller variety of dogs. Things have
>been observed to diversify. They have never been
>observed to become something else entirely and
>the fossil record does NOT support that idea.

You saying a couple of Shnauzer's were the parents to several hundred
different known breeds of dog? Be real man.

If you are too stupid to do some research,
that is your problem. And apparently you
are quite stupid, or you would not be trying
to argue that variation in dogs did not happen.

In other words you're saying the dogs on Noah's Ark evolved from one pair of
mutts into the hundreds of breeds of dogs on earth today.

Evalution is great, ain't it?

Another one who can't read. Or more likely,
refuses to acknowledge simple facts.

This would be microevolution. It does not prove
macroevolution, which would be canids from
non-canids.

--

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34

Evolution =

Unknown chemicals in the primordial past...through...

Unknown processes which no longer exist...produced...

Unknown life forms which are not to be found, but
could through...

Unknown reproduction methods spawn new life...in an..

Unknown atmospheric composition...in an...

Unknown oceanic soup complex...at an...

Unknown time and place.

Dr. Henry Morris

On Thu, 26 Jan 2006 19:53:30 -0600, "Freckles"
<[email hidden]> spake thusly:

Quoted message said:

"Pastor Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On 26 Jan 2006 13:00:54 -0800, "kevnbro"
<[email hidden]> spake thusly:

Quoted message said:

>For example, there are about 300 different types of
>dogs. But only one pair of dogs was necessary on the
>Ark and they are being dishonest when they claim
>that every type of dog would have to be on the Ark,
>especially considering that even a few hundred years
>ago, we had a smaller variety of dogs. Things have
>been observed to diversify. They have never been
>observed to become something else entirely and
>the fossil record does NOT support that idea.

You saying a couple of Shnauzer's were the parents to several hundred
different known breeds of dog? Be real man.

If you are too stupid to do some research,
that is your problem. And apparently you
are quite stupid, or you would not be trying
to argue that variation in dogs did not happen.

In other words you're saying the dogs on Noah's Ark evolved from one pair of
mutts into the hundreds of breeds of dogs on earth today.

Evalution is great, ain't it?

Another one who can't read. Or more likely,
refuses to acknowledge simple facts.

This would be microevolution. It does not prove
macroevolution, which would be canids from
non-canids.

--

"Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass,
till all these things be fulfilled." - Matthew 24:34

Evolution =

Unknown chemicals in the primordial past...through...

Unknown processes which no longer exist...produced...

Unknown life forms which are not to be found, but
could through...

Unknown reproduction methods spawn new life...in an..

Unknown atmospheric composition...in an...

Unknown oceanic soup complex...at an...

Unknown time and place.

Dr. Henry Morris