The direct link to my pic by someone else claiming it as their own has been posted several times. It is now a principal thing. The offending two faced poster *will* loose their account over this.
Tell me again, what is the principle you're trying to defend?
No, that's "principal", not principle.
-- Dan Abel [email hidden] Petaluma, California, USA
You're not paying attention. I may maintain copyright, but fair use can still apply and make the infringement argument moot.
Even so, don't you think it is a little weird to post a message to the effect I cooked something and here is a picture of it, and then to use a picture of something made by someone else? What is the game plan behind something like that?
Upon the face of it and with a quick read, I was annoyed that the guy posted the exact same post three times. However, it was cute, with the guy making a pizza dinner with his kids. Upon rereading the post, it isn't cute at all. He was obviously making fun of patches and her pizza.
To quote:
"The dough took me eight hours to perfect, but after a little patchwork it worked out."
-- Dan Abel [email hidden] Petaluma, California, USA
The direct link to my pic by someone else claiming it as their own has been posted several times. It is now a principal thing. The offending two faced poster *will* loose their account over this.
Tell me again, what is the principle you're trying to defend?
No, that's "principal", not principle.
By Jove! My bad.
<so okay, who is the principal she's trying to defend?>
Well, now wait a minute. It may or may not be copyright infringement, depending on how the picture was used. Copyright law has a provision for fair use built in, and whether you like it or not fair use could apply in this situation.
> It was not used under the fair use criteria. It was posted as *I > made this pizza, here's the pic* type of thing. If you follow > this fully I've posted the thread it first appeared, the fact the > two face poster used 3 different nyms to post their message, and > the fact that this poster stole my pic. But THAT does not successfully refute the possibility of fair use.
I'm unaware of any definition of "fair use" that involves passing someone else's work off as your own.
Patches was making the accusations before the circumstances had been established: I did not start receiving more detailed posts on my newsreader until approx. 1:30 PM today, hours after her first highly inflammatory ones. At the time I wrote the post you quoted above, my suspicion was that someone had used the picture and post to poke fun at her, a parody use covered by fair use... or at least by ones own sense of humor.
To be fair, I did see a pizza pic that looked suspiciously like a rerun... but wasn't interested enough to find out who posted it first. Heck, I don't even remember who posted it second! --
> The direct link to my pic by someone else claiming it as their own has > been posted several times. It is now a principal thing. The offending > two faced poster *will* loose their account over this. Tell me again, what is the principle you're trying to defend?
No, that's "principal", not principle.
By Jove! My bad.
<so okay, who is the principal she's trying to defend?>
No, it's "a principal thing," i.e., the ABSOLUTELY MOST IMPORTANT thing. That's why it's gotten so much bandwidth.
To be fair, I did see a pizza pic that looked suspiciously like a rerun... but wasn't interested enough to find out who posted it first. Heck, I don't even remember who posted it second!
I saw your comment out there saying it looked familiar, so I figured it was you that "tipped" her off - and said so somewhere in this thread. '
Apologies for fingering you (heh) as the "tipster".
On Mon, 03 Apr 2006 16:58:30 -0700, Dan Abel <[email hidden]>
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Upon the face of it and with a quick read, I was annoyed that the guy ...
Who says it's a guy? I've just assumed it was a woman. Maybe that's just the male chauvinist in me. Whenever I hear a woman get pissy like this...
I don't know why I wrote "guy". Patches has [censored] plenty of both males and females. I'm not sure why, though. I always liked her posts, although I didn't always agree with her.
-- Dan Abel [email hidden] Petaluma, California, USA
To be fair, I did see a pizza pic that looked suspiciously like a rerun... but wasn't interested enough to find out who posted it first. Heck, I don't even remember who posted it second!
I saw your comment out there saying it looked familiar, so I figured it was you that "tipped" her off - and said so somewhere in this thread. '
Apologies for fingering you (heh) as the "tipster".
-sw
No sf was not the tipster. There are a couple here who know my real email address. I was tipped off through email not on this ng. Sf had nothing to do with it. Sorry. But sf was the first here to respond that the pic had been seen before.
-- There is a thief amongst us who likes to steal other posters pics and post them as their own. This constitutes copyright infringement and theft of intellectual property. This is contrary to DMCA of 1998 punishable by law. The same thief likes to harass other posters and is an internet stalker. This thief likes to use intimidation to harass other posters on rfc.
> The direct link to my pic by someone else claiming it as their own has > been posted several times. It is now a principal thing. The offending > two faced poster *will* loose their account over this. Tell me again, what is the principle you're trying to defend?
No, that's "principal", not principle.
By Jove! My bad.
<so okay, who is the principal she's trying to defend?>
No, no, no! It's being used as an adjective. As an example:
The principal posting patches used to do on this group was about food, now her principal posting is about how she was robbed. That's why it is now her "principal thing".
Do you understand now?
:-)
-- Dan Abel [email hidden] Petaluma, California, USA
"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
Pennyaline said:
Dan Abel said:
In article <[email hidden]>, Pennyaline <[email hidden]> wrote:
> ~patches~ wrote:
>> The direct link to my pic by someone else claiming it as their own
has
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>> been posted several times. It is now a principal thing. The
offending
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>> two faced poster *will* loose their account over this. > Tell me again, what is the principle you're trying to defend?
No, that's "principal", not principle.
By Jove! My bad.
<so okay, who is the principal she's trying to defend?>
No, no, no! It's being used as an adjective. As an example:
The principal posting patches used to do on this group was about food, now her principal posting is about how she was robbed. That's why it is now her "principal thing".
Do you understand now?
I think you are saying that Patches is unprincipled. 😉
In article <[email hidden]>, "Hairy" <[email hidden]>
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"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
Pennyaline said:
Dan Abel wrote: > In article <[email hidden]>, > Pennyaline <[email hidden]> wrote: > >> ~patches~ wrote:
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>>> been posted several times. It is now a principal thing. The
offending
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>>> two faced poster *will* loose their account over this. >> Tell me again, what is the principle you're trying to defend? > > No, that's "principal", not principle.
By Jove! My bad.
<so okay, who is the principal she's trying to defend?>
No, no, no! It's being used as an adjective. As an example:
The principal posting patches used to do on this group was about food, now her principal posting is about how she was robbed. That's why it is now her "principal thing".
Do you understand now?
I think you are saying that Patches is unprincipled. 😉
I was just tweaking Pennyaline with my weird sense of humor.
-- Dan Abel [email hidden] Petaluma, California, USA
"Dan Abel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
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In article <[email hidden]>,
Pennyaline said:
Dan Abel said:
In article <[email hidden]>, Pennyaline <[email hidden]> wrote:
> ~patches~ wrote:
>> The direct link to my pic by someone else claiming it as their own >> has >> been posted several times. It is now a principal thing. The >> offending >> two faced poster *will* loose their account over this. > Tell me again, what is the principle you're trying to defend?
No, that's "principal", not principle.
By Jove! My bad.
<so okay, who is the principal she's trying to defend?>
No, no, no! It's being used as an adjective. As an example:
The principal posting patches used to do on this group was about food, now her principal posting is about how she was robbed. That's why it is now her "principal thing".
To be fair, I did see a pizza pic that looked suspiciously like a rerun... but wasn't interested enough to find out who posted it first. Heck, I don't even remember who posted it second!
I saw your comment out there saying it looked familiar, so I figured it was you that "tipped" her off - and said so somewhere in this thread. '
Apologies for fingering you (heh) as the "tipster".
Huh? You did? I completely missed that. Damn! I was unjustly accused and didn't get a chance to make an ass out of myself over it. Oh, woe is me!
Here is the TOS for tinypics. If you have a problem with anyone stealing your copyright protected pics as per DMCA
You must be very, very new to usenet and the internet in general to think we all need a tutorial about copyright infringement. Really, honey, you said you are so busy with real life. As a copyrighted author with the Library of Congress, I fail to see what you are so worried about. You're talking about pictures of food. Who cares?!
And if you don't like tiny pics, don't use it! Hello! It's not a law! Most of us know how to click a link that isn't "tiny". I'm really getting tired of your histrionics. Maybe you should go can something, or cook something.
Better yet, if she doesn't want her photos stolen and used by someone else, she shouldn't post them on the Internet. She can always sell her photos of food on any number of online microstock photography sites where she will be paid for their use by others. Problem solved.
Better yet, if she doesn't want her photos stolen and used by someone else, she shouldn't post them on the Internet. She can always sell her photos of food on any number of online microstock photography sites where she will be paid for their use by others. Problem solved.
I take it that means you didn't see the picture in question that patches posted?
:-(
-- Dan Abel [email hidden] Petaluma, California, USA
Better yet, if she doesn't want her photos stolen and used by someone else, she shouldn't post them on the Internet. She can always sell her photos of food on any number of online microstock photography sites where she will be paid for their use by others. Problem solved.
I take it that means you didn't see the picture in question that patches posted?
:-(
No...We had no internet or phone for about a week....during the time this whole thing blew up. That bad huh?