Re: How to train UPDs?

Madison(Ducttape on the forums) was in my health class at school and we
had to make a 'how to survive pamphlet' he made his as a joke for
unicyclists, I guess it will actually be usefull here so I had him
email it to me. Here you go! it's supposed to be a brochure so the
first page is printed on one side and the second page on the other side
and folded accordion style. Hope it helps a little.

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Smilymarco said:

How can you train something called "unplanned" dismount? 😉

On topic:

You could learn the basics of parcour, it makes the landing of a UPD
way easier, just because you know how to roll out of the landing and
transform the force into movement rather then crashing into the
pavement.

Just as FlybyTire said: Tuck and roll

Yeah, it does seem weird to plan for something that's unplanned. But it
works! And your suggestions are good: tuck and roll, if possible (and
necessary) rather than splatting into the pavement. I sometimes tuck
one shoulder in order to make the roll happen more easily (but making
sure not to smash my shoulder into the ground -- so far, so good).

Here is another great piece of advice: if you're (smart enough to be)
wearing wrist guards, you should actually REACH for the ground with one
of your hands (whichever is closer to the ground at the time, like if
you're tilted to one side more than the other). You would not believe
how much easier this can make your life.

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David_Stone said:

Here is another great piece of advice: if you're (smart enough to be)
wearing wrist guards, you should actually REACH for the ground with one
of your hands (whichever is closer to the ground at the time, like if
you're tilted to one side more than the other). You would not believe
how much easier this can make your life.

Especially if they are equipped with a piece of plastic (nylon?) in the
palm of your hand – then you'll glide smoothly along the tarmac.

To train the tuck & roll I should perhaps step down to my 20". The
height of the Coker feels intimidating. Or I could do it on my way
uphill when my nose is already close to the ground.

Yes, I've got a big nose.

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goldenchickenIV said:

Especially if they are equipped with a piece of plastic (nylon?) in the
palm of your hand – then you'll glide smoothly along the tarmac.

To train the tuck & roll I should perhaps step down to my 20". The
height of the Coker feels intimidating. Or I could do it on my way
uphill when my nose is already close to the ground.

Yes, I've got a big nose.

Just ride in grass really fast (as fast as you can) and then take a
foot off the pedal and step off the front you'll either be able to run
it out or you'll trip and be forced to learn how to tuck and roll, just
remember that the tuck and roll method is not very effective if you fall
with a backpack on.

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David_Stone said:

I sometimes tuck one shoulder in order to make the roll happen more
easily (but making sure not to smash my shoulder into the ground -- so
far, so good).

This is the preferred method of rolling, as taught in Judo, Jiu-Jitsu,
Aikido and other arts. Rolling head-on (straight forward) incurs the
risk of landing on one's head or spine. Being that we don't wear spine
protection, I'd advise against a head-on roll on any hard surface.

Rolling shoulder-on (over one shoulder) mitigates this risk as well as
provides a softer landing.

Quoted message said:

Here is another great piece of advice: if you're (smart enough to be)
wearing wrist guards, you should actually REACH for the ground with one
of your hands

*NO! DON'T!* I would not give out such advice as this can (and has in
the past) lead to dislocations of the wrist / shoulder, or broken arms /
collar bones. Most people, when reaching out, lock the elbow in such a
way that the wrist and shoulder can take the full load of the fall.

The proper technique is to present a curved arm to the ground.
Ideally, the "knife edge" (pinky side) of the hand will contact the
ground first.

[image:
http://www.yorkjitsu.org/graphics/falling/standing/forwards_1.jpg]

Here are a few illustrations of a proper roll:
(beginning at 1:48)

This video illustrates a roll that ends in standing position. At high
speed, this type of roll will prevent most injuries, but it can take a
lot of space... you might even end up having to take a few steps or
another roll to come to a complete stop.

The second video illustrates a "roll-out" where the ground is used to
absorb all of the energy of the fall. This can be a bit hard on the
legs and knees, but is a good technique to learn when you must stop
immediately.

Same technique here:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6809507111040683911

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Not to sidetrack the conversation,

I think of a UPD as an unexpected dismount that you end up on your
feet. When you land off your feet, that is a fall. So although, a fall
can be unplanned, it's not a UPD. Is this a common/accurate distinction?

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Chrashing said:

Not to sidetrack the conversation,

I think of a UPD as an unexpected dismount that you end up on your
feet. When you land off your feet, that is a fall. So although, a fall
can be unplanned, it's not a UPD. Is this a common/accurate distinction?

I consider a UPD to be any sort of unplanned dismount from the
unicycle, if I end up on my feet or off my feet it's still an unplanned
dismount so that's what I call it.

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They will never find me said:

I consider a UPD to be any sort of unplanned dismount from the unicycle,
if I end up on my feet or off my feet it's still an unplanned dismount
so that's what I call it.

OK, I think you are right. My first understanding the UPD was
different, as I listed, but hadn't seen a fall differentiated from an
UPD. Thank you.

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What I consider a UPD is:

When you're just riding, and all of a sudden, you get off your uni. I
don't think an UPD is when you fall when diong a trick. But just when
riding along normaly.

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They will never find me said:

...just remember that the tuck and roll method is not very effective if
you fall with a backpack on.

Actually, I use my camelbak to my advantage a lot of times. I'm not
very good at running out my falls 🙂...but on the brightside, it has
resulted in me perfecting a falling style that works for me:

I typically fall off the front, making contact once with each foot
before initiating the rolling sequence. I usually make first contact
with my right hand, which helps me guide the motion. Then in the
process of rolling over my right shoulder, I turn my body to land
smoothly on the camelbak, which I then grind against the pavement until
I come to a stop 🙂.

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Emile.m said:

What I consider a UPD is:

When you're just riding, and all of a sudden, you get off your uni. I
don't think an UPD is when you fall when diong a trick. But just when
riding along normaly.

exactly, that's always how I think of them, when falling doing a trick,
I call it a wipeout, or bail:P

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so Isaac had a "hazmat" moment

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Chexjc said:

Actually, I use my camelbak to my advantage a lot of times. I'm not very
good at running out my falls 🙂...but on the brightside, it has resulted
in me perfecting a falling style that works for me:

I typically fall off the front, making contact once with each foot
before initiating the rolling sequence. I usually make first contact
with my right hand, which helps me guide the motion. Then in the
process of rolling over my right shoulder, I turn my body to land
smoothly on the camelbak, which I then grind against the pavement until
I come to a stop 🙂.

camelbaks aren't too bulky I guess I should have been clearer, school
bags are what prevent rolling... at least usually they do because they
tend to be bulky and grip the road and such a little too well.

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I always classed a UPD as falling off without meanting too, thus
unplanned. But getting ready and training for when it happens makes it
a lot less painfull and scary, because you can get out of it safely.

'break rolls, over the sholder and running out of it helps a lot, its a
simple parkour move and is very usefull.'
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"just remember that the tuck and roll method is not very effective if
you fall with a backpack on."

Never mind UPDs, three weeks ago I had a FALL! I was on my way home
from work with my back pack on with my lap top, a change of clothes,
several charts to finish at home that night, then I stopped off at the
store, picked up a bottle of wine, a yellow pepper, meat, etc, etc.
Between the store and home I rode under a branch that has been growing
down into my line of travel. Having gotten tired of avoiding this
branch the previous few days I grabbed at it to try and debulk it.
That was a grave cognitive error. An error which my cerebellum and
motor cortex were unable to overcome. I fell. My gloves and helmet
earned their keep that day. I did a one arm outstretched poor
approximation of a role. I rolled right over my laptop and the bottle
of wine which was neatly stashed in the right side pocket of my
backpack. Luckily I rolled to the left. Unfortunately the yellow
pepper was in the left side pocket. My brand new laptop survived
without a scratch. The bottle of wine was completely intact proving
that Gawd loves us. Behold, a miracle has befallen us. Alas, the
yellow pepper was mortally wounded. I was forced to eat it to get it
out of its misery.
Final tally: 1 sprained left wrist (good thing I didn't sprain my
other left wrist).
Road rash on my left knee (I only have one of those)
Road rash on my left shoulder. Proving to me that I did, in fact,
roll. I wasn't monitoring my progress during the fall. I had to rely
on the forensic evidence.
A smash mark on my helmet, but NOT my head.
A pretty deep pedal scrape on my right thigh.
One dead pepper.
The unicycle was fine, aside from some crooked handlebars.
Three weeks later, my wrist is almost back to normal, the road rash is
healed and the pepper is still dead.
Thanks for the link to the Ukemi video. That's something I've got to
try, about three thousand times so that I don't have to think about
what I'm doing. So it becomes so ingrained in my brain that it'll be
just like riding a uni.
I'm just not sure I want to practice rolling with my laptop in my
backpack.

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