Re: Just to keep it honest

On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:33:07 -0700, Bob <[email hidden]>

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On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 17:20:59 +0100, "Takin & Kanoknuan"

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> On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 18:50:55 +0700, Steve Kramer
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>>Anyone else besides me notice that the fool never responded to Charles'
>>request for information about ANYTHING that 'may' have happened back in
>>January of '04. Nothing. Not word one. Do you know why? Because nothing
>>happened then. :o) Not a thing. Just a lot of hot air coming from him.

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>>All we've ever seen is photo of me sitting at a desk. As Charles said,
>>it could have been a tour agency or the motor vehicle department. Did
>>you ever suspect it was signing up for language lessons?

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>>Steve Kombat Kramer
>>"PhotoEnvisions" Photography
>>Chiang Mai, Thailand

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> Just to keep everyone honest:

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> If you can read Thai it is obvious that this is a picture of someone
> taken inside a Thai Police station.

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> However, there is no identification of the individual with the hat and
> shorts sitting there.

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**That's true. But note the similarities in the following photos:

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http://photoenvisions.tripod.com/farang_kii_nok.jpg

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http://photoenvisions.tripod.com/[censored].jpg

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http://photoenvisions.tripod.com/great_pretender.jpg

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http://photoenvisions.tripod.com/elephant.jpg

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http://photoenvisions.tripod.com/indiana_and_indiana.jpg

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**The same stupid costume and the same stupid hat. Over to you Steve. Do you
STILL deny that it was you at the police station? And you STILL deny that
you were under arrest? :o)

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> Bruce in Bangkok
> (brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

Firstly, I would appreciate it if when you post YOUR comments above
mine you would delete my signature. I have no desire to have posts
made by others construed to have come from me.

Secondly, there is no indication in the photo of the police station
that anyone is "under arrest". Simply a rather woebegone older chap in
wrinkled clothing sitting in front of a desk.

Bruce in Bangkok
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Say Hey Brucie:

That picture of Steve Kramer was taken on January 8, 2004 at the
Changpuak Police Station in Chiang Mai. Picture was taken by me,
Robert Johnson. Now Steve Kramer is beginning to fabricate a story
that he was never under arrest at the police station. He even called
two fat ladies from the Chiang Mai Womens Auxillary - Post 69 for back
up. Don't forget to listen to Steve Kramer's song, 'Act Naturally' on
you tube or yahoo.com - sung by the late and great Buck Owens.

5555 Yee-Heaw !!

Fine, I believe that you took a picture of Steve Kramer in the police
station, however a photo of an individual in a police station is
hardly proof that said individual was under arrest.

I have been in a number of police stations, to pay traffic fines, to
report stolen goods, etc. At no time was there any indication that I
was "under arrest" simply because I was physically in a police
station.

I certainly have no intent to defend, or defame, Steve Kramer but your
statement that he was under arrest would certainly sound more factual
if it was supported with some sort of evidence such as copies of the
police station log showing the record of the arrest, name of the
arresting officer, documents showing discharge of the arrest, court
action, or something similar.

At the moment the strongest and most effective evidence you have that
your statement is true is Kramer's failure to institute either slander
or libel action against you for making said statement.

Bruce in Bangkok
(brucepaigeATgmailDOTcom)

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At the moment the strongest and most effective evidence you have that
your statement is true is Kramer's failure to institute either slander
or libel action against you for making said statement.

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Say Hey Brucie:

That's just what I have been waiting for. Him or anyone else for that
matter.

5555 Yee-Haw !!

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At the moment the strongest and most effective evidence you have that
your statement is true is Kramer's failure to institute either slander
or libel action against you for making said statement.

Bruce in Bangkok
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Say Hey Bruce in Bangkok:

I herewith nominate you for our legal advisor here on sct. As they say
in the orient, "Rot's 'O Ruck Buddy"

5555 Yee-Haw !!

Bob said:

Steve Kramer said:

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I probably need to either post more elaborate messages or try to be a
bit more explicit. The point I was trying to emphasize was that a
picture is seldom "proof" of anything.

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True. Much to easy today for anyone to cobble together an image in
PhotoShop that can pass casual inspection.

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Thus a photo of someone sitting in a police station is not proof of
arrest just as a photo of someone sitting in a restaurant eating a
bowl of yogurt is not proof that the individual made the yogurt.

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.... or that the yogurt is any good.

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Steve Kramer
"PhotoEnvisions" Photography
Chiang Mai, Thailandhttp://www.photoenvisions.com

Say Hey Stevie:

And that is why your photoenvisions and full moon studio has been such
a flop. BTW - what can you tell us about your pinkie-knikie leather
shop. Opening soon? Will it have the logo, "Let Our Experienced Staff
Strap You On" - Will it have bangels, chains, boots, whips, and all
that kinky s*it.

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Fine, I believe that you took a picture of Steve Kramer in the police
station, however a photo of an individual in a police station is
hardly proof that said individual was under arrest.

I have been in a number of police stations, to pay traffic fines, to
report stolen goods, etc. At no time was there any indication that I
was "under arrest" simply because I was physically in a police
station.

I certainly have no intent to defend, or defame, Steve Kramer but your
statement that he was under arrest would certainly sound more factual
if it was supported with some sort of evidence such as copies of the
police station log showing the record of the arrest, name of the
arresting officer, documents showing discharge of the arrest, court
action, or something similar.

Bruce in Bangkok

*****While that is fair comment Bruce it would also be fair to ask
Kramer to "prove" his story about his dealings with Charles Bronson
would'nt it?
Anyone can write a story about a dead person who has no right of
reply.
Kramer has indicated on many occasions that that story was true but
like many of his other wild claims had NEVER offered to prove them.
The photo is true and he has confessed to that and also to the fact he
was arrested on that occasion, now it's time for him to step up to the
plate and prove the Bronson story.......

Will he do so?????? Of course not, like all his other stories it's a
figment of his imagination.