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Re: Low carb and low calorie

Nick · 2005-05-16T08:01:44+00:00

"Roger Zoul" wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Nick wrote: :> After losing 100lbs on Atkins in 1 year and 3 months, I've stalled, :> so I have decided to go low calorie. I am 203 (and have been for 2 :> months) but would like to be 180. Have most of you found that after :> a while this becomes necessary? Some do....however, if you're losing weight, then you are on a low calorie diet (relative to your bodyweight), so your designation makes no real sense... I was following Atkins' suggestion - eat when hungry, stop when full. I was not counting calories. I don't believe I was in any sort of caloric deficit. I would estimate I was eating 3500 - 4000 calories per day, based on portions I've been eating while watching calories compared to just counting carbs with no attention to calories. :> :> The past week, I have aimed for 1500 - 1600 calories a day, split :> roughly 65% fat, 28% protein and 7% carbs. I am a guy, 6'2" and 21 :> years old. Is this a normal caloric range for weight loss? Well, that's 7.4x to 7.8x or so....it should work. What was your calorie level at before? What was your carb level at before? Like I said, calorie levels were an estimated 3500 - 4000 per day. Carb level was 20 grams and still is. I don't :> exercise, but I'm doing something on my feet most of the day. Any :> general tips from people who have gone low calorie and low carb? Why don't you exercise? At your age and weight, it would be very benefical (you'd look better, be stronger, more muscle means you can eat more food, as muscle burns calories, etc.). I'd say that you should start lifting weight and doing some daily cardio - walking or stationary bike riding. I lifted for 4 months, but was turned off by the gain of 'bulk'. I was gaining muscle, but it was concealed by the remaining fat. You should worry about being "skinny fat". That's what happens to people who skip exercise (mainly resistance training) and just diet down to a good sounding weight. This is a concern of mine, and the reason for the last 20lbs I'd like to lose. Like I said, I put on muscle already, between 210 and my current weight, and didn't like the results. I'd like to try reducing body fat as much as I can, and then continue the weight training. Thanks for the insight Nick

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Nick
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16 May 2005, 08:01 UTC #1

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Nick <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote:
:> After losing 100lbs on Atkins in 1 year and 3 months, I've stalled,
:> so I have decided to go low calorie. I am 203 (and have been for 2
:> months) but would like to be 180. Have most of you found that after
:> a while this becomes necessary?
Some do....however, if you're losing weight, then you are on a low calorie
diet (relative to your bodyweight), so your designation makes no real
sense...
I was following Atkins' suggestion - eat when hungry, stop when full. I was
not counting calories. I don't believe I was in any sort of caloric deficit.
I would estimate I was eating 3500 - 4000 calories per day, based on
portions I've been eating while watching calories compared to just counting
carbs with no attention to calories.
Quoted message said:
:>
:> The past week, I have aimed for 1500 - 1600 calories a day, split
:> roughly 65% fat, 28% protein and 7% carbs. I am a guy, 6'2" and 21
:> years old. Is this a normal caloric range for weight loss?
Well, that's 7.4x to 7.8x or so....it should work. What was your calorie
level at before? What was your carb level at before?
Like I said, calorie levels were an estimated 3500 - 4000 per day. Carb
level was 20 grams and still is.
Quoted message said:
I don't
:> exercise, but I'm doing something on my feet most of the day. Any
:> general tips from people who have gone low calorie and low carb?
Why don't you exercise? At your age and weight, it would be very
benefical
(you'd look better, be stronger, more muscle means you can eat more food,
as muscle burns calories, etc.). I'd say that you should start lifting
weight and doing some daily cardio - walking or stationary bike riding.
I lifted for 4 months, but was turned off by the gain of 'bulk'. I was
gaining muscle, but it was concealed by the remaining fat.
You
Quoted message said:
should worry about being "skinny fat". That's what happens to people who
skip exercise (mainly resistance training) and just diet down to a good
sounding weight.
This is a concern of mine, and the reason for the last 20lbs I'd like to
lose. Like I said, I put on muscle already, between 210 and my current
weight, and didn't like the results. I'd like to try reducing body fat as
much as I can, and then continue the weight training.
Thanks for the insight
Nick

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Nick
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17 May 2005, 00:53 UTC #2

"Sprgtime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"Nick" <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
:> After losing 100lbs on Atkins in 1 year and 3 months, I've stalled,
:> so I have decided to go low calorie. I am 203 (and have been for 2
:> months) but would like to be 180. Have most of you found that after
:> a while this becomes necessary?
Quoted message said:
Like I said, calorie levels were an estimated 3500 - 4000 per day. Carb
level was 20 grams and still is.
You should be going into OWL and after a bit more weight loss, to
premaintenance. You will likely find that in OWL, you naturally eat lower
calorie because you'll be filling up more on veggies & fruit.
This close to goal weight, you really shouldn't be in induction anymore.
It may be necessary to watch calories later on, but I would advise trying
the actual Atkins plan first (going into OWL....)
I tried moving to OWL around 220lbs, but found increasing beyond 25 grams
per day gave me cravings. Is it detrimental to my goal to stay on induction
level carbs? If it's solely the boredom factor, I don't mind eating only
20gms per day.
Thanks
Nick

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Roger Zoul
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17 May 2005, 01:09 UTC #3

Nick <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote:
:> "Sprgtime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:> news:[email hidden]...
:> > "Nick" <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote in message
:> > news:[email hidden]...
:> >>> :> After losing 100lbs on Atkins in 1 year and 3 months, I've
:> >>> :> stalled, so I have decided to go low calorie. I am 203 (and
:> >>> :> have been for 2 months) but would like to be 180. Have most
:> >>> :> of you found that after a while this becomes necessary?
:> >
:> >> Like I said, calorie levels were an estimated 3500 - 4000 per
:> >> day. Carb level was 20 grams and still is.
:> >
:> > You should be going into OWL and after a bit more weight loss, to
:> > premaintenance. You will likely find that in OWL, you naturally
:> > eat lower calorie because you'll be filling up more on veggies &
:> > fruit.
:> > This close to goal weight, you really shouldn't be in induction
:> > anymore.
:> >
:> > It may be necessary to watch calories later on, but I would advise
:> > trying the actual Atkins plan first (going into OWL....)
:>
:> I tried moving to OWL around 220lbs, but found increasing beyond 25
:> grams per day gave me cravings. Is it detrimental to my goal to stay
:> on induction level carbs? If it's solely the boredom factor, I don't
:> mind eating only 20gms per day.
You can up your carbs but lower your calories, and add exercise. fitday.com

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Nick
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17 May 2005, 01:19 UTC #4

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Nick <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote:
:> "Sprgtime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:> news:[email hidden]...
:> > "Nick" <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote in message
:> > news:[email hidden]...
:> >>> :> After losing 100lbs on Atkins in 1 year and 3 months, I've
:> >>> :> stalled, so I have decided to go low calorie. I am 203 (and
:> >>> :> have been for 2 months) but would like to be 180. Have most
:> >>> :> of you found that after a while this becomes necessary?
:> >
:> >> Like I said, calorie levels were an estimated 3500 - 4000 per
:> >> day. Carb level was 20 grams and still is.
:> >
:> > You should be going into OWL and after a bit more weight loss, to
:> > premaintenance. You will likely find that in OWL, you naturally
:> > eat lower calorie because you'll be filling up more on veggies &
:> > fruit.
:> > This close to goal weight, you really shouldn't be in induction
:> > anymore.
:> >
:> > It may be necessary to watch calories later on, but I would advise
:> > trying the actual Atkins plan first (going into OWL....)
:>
:> I tried moving to OWL around 220lbs, but found increasing beyond 25
:> grams per day gave me cravings. Is it detrimental to my goal to stay
:> on induction level carbs? If it's solely the boredom factor, I don't
:> mind eating only 20gms per day.
You can up your carbs but lower your calories, and add exercise.
fitday.com
I use fitday to track my calories. I will add excersise as you've
recommended, but I think I'm at a good calorie level.
Nick

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Sprgtime
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17 May 2005, 01:41 UTC #5

"Nick" <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Like I said, calorie levels were an estimated 3500 - 4000 per day. Carb
level was 20 grams and still is.
You should be going into OWL and after a bit more weight loss, to
premaintenance. You will likely find that in OWL, you naturally eat
lower calorie because you'll be filling up more on veggies & fruit.
This close to goal weight, you really shouldn't be in induction anymore.
It may be necessary to watch calories later on, but I would advise trying
the actual Atkins plan first (going into OWL....)
I tried moving to OWL around 220lbs, but found increasing beyond 25 grams
per day gave me cravings. Is it detrimental to my goal to stay on
induction level carbs? If it's solely the boredom factor, I don't mind
eating only 20gms per day.
I'm more concerned about you maintaining your loss once you reach goal. Are
you ready to eat low calorie and 20g/day for the rest of your life to keep
the weight off?
Were you able to determine which foods gave you cravings on OWL? That kind
of knowledge where you find out what foods you will forever need to
avoid/restrict and which foods you can eat without getting cravings is
valuable info. When you increased beyond 25 grams, did you try doing it
with just more veggies? Were you adding new foods back slowly, one at a
time, to determine how they made you feel?

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Roger Zoul
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17 May 2005, 04:48 UTC #6

Nick <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote:
:> "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:> news:[email hidden]...
:> > Nick <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote:
:> > :> "Sprgtime" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
:> > :> news:[email hidden]...
:> > :> > "Nick" <terzulli@optonline*spa/\/\blows.net> wrote in message
:> > :> > news:[email hidden]...
:> > :> >>> :> After losing 100lbs on Atkins in 1 year and 3 months,
:> > :> >>> :> I've stalled, so I have decided to go low calorie. I am
:> > :> >>> :> 203 (and have been for 2 months) but would like to be
:> > :> >>> :> 180. Have most of you found that after a while this
:> > :> >>> :> becomes necessary?
:> > :> >
:> > :> >> Like I said, calorie levels were an estimated 3500 - 4000 per
:> > :> >> day. Carb level was 20 grams and still is.
:> > :> >
:> > :> > You should be going into OWL and after a bit more weight
:> > :> > loss, to premaintenance. You will likely find that in OWL,
:> > :> > you naturally eat lower calorie because you'll be filling up
:> > :> > more on veggies & fruit.
:> > :> > This close to goal weight, you really shouldn't be in
:> > :> > induction anymore.
:> > :> >
:> > :> > It may be necessary to watch calories later on, but I would
:> > :> > advise trying the actual Atkins plan first (going into
:> > :> > OWL....)
:> > :>
:> > :> I tried moving to OWL around 220lbs, but found increasing
:> > :> beyond 25 grams per day gave me cravings. Is it detrimental to
:> > :> my goal to stay on induction level carbs? If it's solely the
:> > :> boredom factor, I don't mind eating only 20gms per day.
:> >
:> > You can up your carbs but lower your calories, and add exercise.
:> > fitday.com
:>
:> I use fitday to track my calories. I will add excersise as you've
:> recommended, but I think I'm at a good calorie level.
If you can stand being at the level you're suggested, you're good (ie, go
for it!).

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