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  1. anjuna said:

    Surely a couple of quid spent on a guard is cheaper than the laundry bills
    after every trip out? Or are we missing something.....Testosterone, ego trip
    etc.???

    A lot of cheap bikes come without mudguards fitted and it probably
    doesn't occur to the people that buy those kind of bikes to actually fit
    them.

    Riding at this time of year without mudguards, even on the road, is just
    silly - unless you are "training" and therefore more concerned about
    every last gram that can be trimmed off your bike (which probably
    doesn't have clearance for mudguards anyway), in which case you will be
    togged up in lycra that would be so sweaty and stinky by the end of the
    ride it would need to go in the wash straight away even if conditions
    were bone dry, so what's the difference if it's got a little bit of mud
    up the back?

    I have to say I was amazed to see a few people on the Poor Student ride
    on mudguard-free racing machines. Can't imagine what state they would
    have been in by the end.

    d.

  2. davek said:


    Riding at this time of year without mudguards, even on the road, is just
    silly - unless you are "training" [snip]

    On the contrary - if you're training the last thing you need is 2/300
    miles a week getting sprayed with water all the time. Although I have
    to go back a few years (having not raced seriously for well over ten
    years) there certainly weren't many decent riders then who'd consider
    doing a winter's road training on a mudguard-less bike. Surely things
    haven't changed that much - have they?!

    'Course, *competing* is a different matter, and many's the time I've
    had a gritty, icy chamois by the end of an early season race. Anything
    for a cheap thrill, me.... ;o)

  3. Simon D said:

    there certainly weren't many decent riders then who'd consider
    doing a winter's road training on a mudguard-less bike. Surely things
    haven't changed that much - have they?!

    I don't know about ten years ago, but even a large proportion of Audax
    riders seem to think themselves above mudguards these days.

    d.

  4. davek said:
    anjuna said:

    Surely a couple of quid spent on a guard is cheaper than the laundry bills
    after every trip out? Or are we missing something.....Testosterone, ego trip
    etc.???

    A lot of cheap bikes come without mudguards fitted and it probably
    doesn't occur to the people that buy those kind of bikes to actually fit
    them.

    Riding at this time of year without mudguards, even on the road, is just
    silly - unless you are "training"

    Depends on the type of riding - for off-roading, guards can be more of
    a hindrance than a help, should thick mud, bits of tree, etc. get
    wedged in the gap between tyre and guard thus locking a wheel up [1].

    David Belcher

    [1] Hence mudguards being strongly advised against for 'cross bikes [2]
    [2] Though on my old frame, which was a bit short on clearance in
    parts, a mix of mud and dead leaves happily locked up the front wheel
    at the fork crown in a couple of races!

  5. David E. Belcher said:

    Depends on the type of riding - for off-roading, guards can be more of
    a hindrance than a help

    OK, fair point - if a slightly different scenario to what the OP was
    talking about.

    I would have thought that for off-road cycling mudguards would be pretty
    redundant anyway as you are going to get muddy even with the best
    mudguards in the world.

    d.

  6. davek said:
    David E. Belcher said:

    Depends on the type of riding - for off-roading, guards can be more of
    a hindrance than a help

    OK, fair point - if a slightly different scenario to what the OP was
    talking about.

    I would have thought that for off-road cycling mudguards would be pretty
    redundant anyway as you are going to get muddy even with the best
    mudguards in the world.

    For an all-dayer in cold conditions I still much prefer to use them (and
    even on a short ride, a face full of mud or cow-[censored] isn't really
    something I go looking for).

    James
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  7. davek said:
    David E. Belcher said:

    Depends on the type of riding - for off-roading, guards can be more
    of a hindrance than a help

    OK, fair point - if a slightly different scenario to what the OP was
    talking about.

    I would have thought that for off-road cycling mudguards would be
    pretty redundant anyway as you are going to get muddy even with the
    best mudguards in the world.

    Yes and no. One of these boards for mounting on the seat post will spare
    you from a fair amount of dirt and wet on your back without
    compromising the ride in most situations. I extended mine quite a bit
    with some foam material (sleeping mat). Being out all day with a wet
    lower back is not really pleasant at this time of the year.
    As for the front: Any mudguard that extends low enough to protect your
    feet and chainset is likely to present a hazard when riding off road.
    However, a very short front mudguard at least offers some protection
    for the headset and the riders face.

    Günther

  8. Günther Schwarz said:

    Yes and no. One of these boards for mounting on the seat post will spare
    you from a fair amount of dirt and wet on your back without
    compromising the ride in most situations. I extended mine quite a bit
    with some foam material (sleeping mat). Being out all day with a wet
    lower back is not really pleasant at this time of the year.
    As for the front: Any mudguard that extends low enough to protect your
    feet and chainset is likely to present a hazard when riding off road.
    However, a very short front mudguard at least offers some protection
    for the headset and the riders face.

    That's exactly the arrangement we have settled on, too.

    James
    --
    James Annan
    see web pages for email
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/
    http://julesandjames.blogspot.com/

  9. James Annan said:
    Günther Schwarz said:

    Yes and no. One of these boards for mounting on the seat post will
    spare you from a fair amount of dirt and wet on your back without
    compromising the ride in most situations.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    However, a very short front mudguard at least offers some
    protection for the headset and the riders face.

    That's exactly the arrangement we have settled on, too.

    For the front part I rely on the oversize downtube. The headset needs
    replacement soon, anyway. With a new one installed I will mount a front
    fender.

    Guenther

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