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  1. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: [email hidden] (Carole)
    Date: 9/2/2003 3:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    yet the 4th leading
    cause of death in US is properly prescribed and taken pharmaceutical
    drugs.

    this is not true...or do you have a legitimate source for that statemtent??
    will your supplements and herbs do a thing for brain tumors..type 1 diabetes??
    etc etc...highly unlikely

    Quoted message said:

    I don't agree that potassium is all that plentifu


    possibly because you don't understand that 99% of potassium is INSIDE the
    cells...the kidneys are expert at maintaining potassium homeostasis...yaa eats
    less,,,less is moved from cells into bloodstream...perhaps you need to read up
    on diffusion (movement of a solute from where there is MORE to where there is
    less)..

    the only times one needs to eat more potassium..or takes supplements is when
    one is either taking diuretics,,,having vomiting/diarrhea or has kidney
    malfunction..blood levels of potassium are kept in a fairly narrow range
    ....about 3.4-5.5 meq

    Quoted message said:

    has finally reached a level of vitality that it can
    begin a cleaning out process. 90 of all chronic ill health arises from
    a toxic colon.

    "a level of vitality???" what a crock..
    and your definition of toxic colon please?? apparently both you and Janny need
    to spend a day in a GI lab to see for yourself the "shiny pink colons" that
    sooo many of the rest of us have "actual experience" in visualizing...

    Quoted message said:

    auto-intoxication which means that the cells
    themselves haven't got the necessary nutrition or vitality to do the
    proper amount of cleaning and housekeeping to keep the system in
    order.

    total baloney...

    Quoted message said:

    when all of science says simple and
    judicious

    Quoted message said:

    usage of supplements is what is needed, at most.

    hmmm...so the brain tumors..HIV..Hep C..heart attacks..and all one needs is to
    pop some weeds???

    welll..golleeeeee...

    hawki

  2. "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: [email hidden] (Carole)
    Date: 9/2/2003 3:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    yet the 4th leading
    cause of death in US is properly prescribed and taken pharmaceutical
    drugs.

    this is not true...or do you have a legitimate source for that


    statemtent??

    Quoted message said:

    will your supplements and herbs do a thing for brain tumors..type 1


    diabetes??

    Quoted message said:

    etc etc...highly unlikely

    Quoted message said:

    I don't agree that potassium is all that plentifu


    possibly because you don't understand that 99% of potassium is INSIDE the
    cells...the kidneys are expert at maintaining potassium homeostasis...yaa


    eats

    Quoted message said:

    less,,,less is moved from cells into bloodstream...perhaps you need to


    read up

    Quoted message said:

    on diffusion (movement of a solute from where there is MORE to where there


    is

    Quoted message said:

    less)..

    the only times one needs to eat more potassium..or takes supplements is


    when

    Quoted message said:

    one is either taking diuretics,,,having vomiting/diarrhea or has kidney
    malfunction..blood levels of potassium are kept in a fairly narrow range
    ...about 3.4-5.5 meq

    Quoted message said:

    has finally reached a level of vitality that it can
    begin a cleaning out process. 90 of all chronic ill health arises from
    a toxic colon.

    "a level of vitality???" what a crock..
    and your definition of toxic colon please?? apparently both you and Janny


    need

    Quoted message said:

    to spend a day in a GI lab to see for yourself the "shiny pink colons"


    that

    Quoted message said:

    sooo many of the rest of us have "actual experience" in visualizing...

    Quoted message said:

    auto-intoxication which means that the cells
    themselves haven't got the necessary nutrition or vitality to do the
    proper amount of cleaning and housekeeping to keep the system in
    order.

    total baloney...

    Quoted message said:

    when all of science says simple and
    judicious

    Quoted message said:

    usage of supplements is what is needed, at most.

    hmmm...so the brain tumors..HIV..Hep C..heart attacks..and all one needs


    is to

    Quoted message said:

    pop some weeds???

    welll..golleeeeee...

    Yep, Gomer, you finally got it. The part you are missing is a clue as to
    which
    weeds (the informed say herbs).

    Quoted message said:


    hawki

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/3/2003 10:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yep, Gomer, you finally got it. The part you are missing is a clue as to
    which
    weeds (the informed say herbs).

    that's about the funniest thing you have come up with!!!

    I'll let the rest of the "medically educated" laugh with me....as you obviously
    have no clue what "gomer" means

    maroon

    hawki

  4. "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/3/2003 10:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yep, Gomer, you finally got it. The part you are missing is a clue as to
    which
    weeds (the informed say herbs).

    that's about the funniest thing you have come up with!!!

    I'll let the rest of the "medically educated" laugh with me....as you


    obviously

    Quoted message said:

    have no clue what "gomer" means

    Yes, actually it is a term refering to an old TV series called Gomer Pyle.
    The
    term gomer simply means imbecile.

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/4/2003 2:26 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, actually it is a term refering to an old TV series called Gomer Pyle.
    The
    term gomer simply means imbecile.

    LOL LOL LOL

    yep...we "medical folks" have an entirely different defintion...sad that it
    be...it has nothing to do with imbecile tho...

    actually I loved Gomer Pyle...

    far more amusing than imbeciles like you...

    hawki

    hawki

  6. "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/3/2003 10:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yep, Gomer, you finally got it. The part you are missing is a clue as


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    which
    weeds (the informed say herbs).

    that's about the funniest thing you have come up with!!!

    I'll let the rest of the "medically educated" laugh with me....as you


    obviously

    Quoted message said:

    have no clue what "gomer" means

    Yes, actually it is a term refering to an old TV series called Gomer Pyle.
    The
    term gomer simply means imbecile.

    Only in those who are seriously affected by ginseng overdoses.

    Gomer
    (From Easton's Bible Dictionary) complete; vanishing.

    The daughter of Diblaim, who (probably in vision only) became the wife of
    (Hosea 1:3).

    The eldest son of Japheth, and father of Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah
    (Genesis 10:2,3), whose descendants formed the principal branch of the
    population of South-eastern Europe. He is generally regarded as the ancestor
    of the Celtae and the Cimmerii, who in early times settled to the north of
    the Black Sea, and gave their name to the Crimea, the ancient Chersonesus
    Taurica. Traces of their presence are found in the names Cimmerian
    Bosphorus, Cimmerian Isthmus, etc. In the seventh century B.C. they were
    driven out of their original seat by the Scythians, and overran western Asia
    Minor, whence they were afterwards expelled. They subsequently reappear in
    the times of the Romans as the Cimbri of the north and west of Europe,
    whence they crossed to the British Isles, where their descendants are still
    found in the Gaels and Cymry. Thus the whole Celtic race may be regarded as
    descended from Gomer.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/3/2003 10:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yep, Gomer, you finally got it. The part you are missing is a clue as to
    which
    weeds (the informed say herbs).

    that's about the funniest thing you have come up with!!!

    I'll let the rest of the "medically educated" laugh with me....as you


    obviously

    Quoted message said:

    have no clue what "gomer" means

    Yes, actually it is a term refering to an old TV series called Gomer Pyle.

    True, but not what he was referring to.

    Quoted message said:

    The
    term gomer simply means imbecile.

    Wrong.

    Hint: It's an acronym, not a name.

    Here's another hint: Ever read "The House of God"?

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  8. "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Dave said:

    "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    >Subject: Re: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    >From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    >Date: 9/3/2003 10:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    >Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >Yep, Gomer, you finally got it. The part you are missing is a clue as


    to

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >which
    >weeds (the informed say herbs).
    >

    that's about the funniest thing you have come up with!!!

    I'll let the rest of the "medically educated" laugh with me....as you


    obviously

    Quoted message said:

    have no clue what "gomer" means

    Yes, actually it is a term refering to an old TV series called Gomer


    Pyle.

    Quoted message said:


    True, but not what he was referring to.

    Quoted message said:

    The
    term gomer simply means imbecile.

    Wrong.

    Hint: It's an acronym, not a name.

    Here's another hint: Ever read "The House of God"?

    I looked it up. There seems to be a myriad of meanings.

  9. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    I wonder how long Orac and Hawki plan to stay here and have a joint
    masturbation fest? Oh! orac! that feels so good , Do me hawki baby! Ahhhhh!

    I don't know if you realize it or not, but you just demolished your own
    claim (made in an earlier post in another thread) that you exist on a
    higher spiritual plain than us poor scientifically-minded.
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  10. Orac <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    I wonder how long Orac and Hawki plan to stay here and have a joint
    masturbation fest? Oh! orac! that feels so good , Do me hawki baby!
    Ahhhhh!

    I don't know if you realize it or not, but you just demolished your
    own claim (made in an earlier post in another thread) that you exist
    on a higher spiritual plain than us poor scientifically-minded.

    That was Dave the ginseng spammer, not David the pee-drinker.

  11. So?
    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    I wonder how long Orac and Hawki plan to stay here and have a joint
    masturbation fest? Oh! orac! that feels so good , Do me hawki baby!


    Ahhhhh!

    Quoted message said:


    I don't know if you realize it or not, but you just demolished your own
    claim (made in an earlier post in another thread) that you exist on a
    higher spiritual plain than us poor scientifically-minded.
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Eric Bohlman said:

    Orac <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    I wonder how long Orac and Hawki plan to stay here and have a joint
    masturbation fest? Oh! orac! that feels so good , Do me hawki baby!
    Ahhhhh!

    I don't know if you realize it or not, but you just demolished your
    own claim (made in an earlier post in another thread) that you exist
    on a higher spiritual plain than us poor scientifically-minded.

    That was Dave the ginseng spammer, not David the pee-drinker.

    Ah, yes. Maybe we should start referring to them as "GlowLife" and
    "MedTools."
    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Mark Probert said:

    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The
    term gomer simply means imbecile.

    Wrong.

    Hint: It's an acronym, not a name.

    Here's another hint: Ever read "The House of God"?

    I looked it up. There seems to be a myriad of meanings.

    The most commonly used meaning IS an acronym: Get Out of My Emergency
    Room.

    --
    Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent."
    |
    |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
    | inconvenience me with questions?"

  14. "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Eric Bohlman said:

    Orac <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "David" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    > I wonder how long Orac and Hawki plan to stay here and have a joint
    > masturbation fest? Oh! orac! that feels so good , Do me hawki baby!
    > Ahhhhh!

    I don't know if you realize it or not, but you just demolished your
    own claim (made in an earlier post in another thread) that you exist
    on a higher spiritual plain than us poor scientifically-minded.

    That was Dave the ginseng spammer, not David the pee-drinker.

    Ah, yes. Maybe we should start referring to them as "GlowLife" and
    "MedTools."

    You guys are so lost. I'll bet your mom dresses you funny as well.

  15. --

    "Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Orac" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Eric Bohlman said:

    Orac <[email hidden]> wrote in
    news:[email hidden]:

    > In article <[email hidden]>,
    > "David" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    >
    >> I wonder how long Orac and Hawki plan to stay here and have a joint
    >> masturbation fest? Oh! orac! that feels so good , Do me hawki baby!
    >> Ahhhhh!
    >
    > I don't know if you realize it or not, but you just demolished your
    > own claim (made in an earlier post in another thread) that you exist
    > on a higher spiritual plain than us poor scientifically-minded.

    That was Dave the ginseng spammer, not David the pee-drinker.

    Ah, yes. Maybe we should start referring to them as "GlowLife" and
    "MedTools."

    You guys are so lost. I'll bet your mom dresses you funny as well.

    Ah, yes. The minor deity taunts us mere mortals from his higher plane.

    --Rich

  16. Dave said:


    "Hawki63" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Natural 'cures' can be killers (contd)
    From: "Dave" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/3/2003 10:44 AM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Yep, Gomer, you finally got it. The part you are missing is a clue as to
    which
    weeds (the informed say herbs).

    that's about the funniest thing you have come up with!!!

    I'll let the rest of the "medically educated" laugh with me....as you


    obviously

    Quoted message said:

    have no clue what "gomer" means

    Yes, actually it is a term refering to an old TV series called Gomer Pyle.
    The
    term gomer simply means imbecile.


    Nope, try again.

    WB
    --

    Take out the G'RBAGE to reply
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