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> "JustMe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> "Carl Sundquist" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> > "JustMe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >> What is criminal is expecting society to support lazy people that
> expect
>> >> a
>> >> handout at the expense of those who work and/or earn their way. That
>> >> catagory includes the RICH who are substantially more industrious then
>> > folks
>> >> sleeping on the street and cluttering up the emergency rooms expecting
>> >> the
>> >> free care that jacks up your bill. Seems we tried it your way in the
>> > Soviet
>> >> Union and we all know what happened there.
>> >>
>> >
>> > What makes you think it has to be one way or the other?
>> >
>> >
> http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1041&context=anderson/fin
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>> because when you take the incentive to produce away, few work. Our own
>> welfare system is a prime example with 3 generations on the public teat.
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> Many of those in poverty work harder than you do. They grow the food you
> eat, sew the clothes you wear, assemble most of the products you use and
> in
> doing so are exposed to extremely tough conditions, long hours and many
> toxins.
>
> That welfare is not deserved is a tired old pessimism on human nature that
> is not universally true. There are a plenty of people who are motivated
> beyond money or obligation. Sure there are those who lack, but look at
> what
> goes on to run society and there are more doers than non-doers. Look
> what
> happens when there is a disaster. People come out with unwavering support
> and grueling hard work. You're reading a bicycle racing newsgroup, look
> how
> hard racing cyclists work for virtually no outward rewards. Human beings
> apply great energy to life. In general our society wouldn't function if
> the
> masses were as lazy as you claim.
>
> Beyond that, all social welfare combined is a small sum compared to the
> majority of wealth in the hands of only 1% of people. If the distribution
> of wealth were more even there would be plenty to go around to all. Don't
> even try to rationalize that those people work harder or are more
> deserving
> than the masses who do the actual work of society.
>
Those are the underemployed you are talking about. They work their ass off
and don't generally get a handout. I'm talking about those that don't want
to work but are willing to take the handout. You may be reading a bicycle
group but I'm not. Check the headers. I work in the welfare industry and I
have a couple clues regarding what goes on. Just today a "client" came in
with his sad tale of woe. Seems he had an "accident" at the grocery store
and wanted another go at the taxpayer. The accident you ask? He accidentally
spent the entire weeks handout on scratch tickets. Some accident. I'll tell
ya more sometime but I'm a two finger typist.
