Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD schrieb:
Quoted message said:Don Kirkman said:It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <[email hidden]>:
Quoted message said:Don Kirkman wrote:
Quoted message said:>It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
>article <[email hidden]>:
Quoted message said:>>>>Cows eat only salad and grow to be several hundred of pounds.
Quoted message said:>>>Cows don't eat salad at all; they eat grasses (pasture grasses, various
>>>types of hay), legumes (particularly alfalfa), and cereals,
>>>(particularly barley).
Quoted message said:>>You just described salad :-)
Quoted message said:>So how often do you eat a salad of Sudan grass, timothy or alfalfa hay,
>rolled barley, and meadow grasses, and maybe some dried shredded sugar
>beet pulp or cottonseed cake?
Quoted message said:When I eat salad, I typically add alfalfa, cereals, and grasses (herbs)
to romaine and iceberg lettuce leaves.
Herbs are _not_ grasses, at least the herbs usually eaten by humans are
quite unlike grass from a nutritional point of view (and from a
botanical point of view as well).
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:Yes, and cows don't eat lettuce at all.
They do eat romaine lettuce if you provide it.
Cows also eat meal made from dead cows if you provide it. This is how
BSE became a problem. However this does not proof that carcass meal is
in any way comparable to the cow's usual diet, namely grass and hay.
What cows might or might not eat if forced to do so has nothing to do
with their natural diet.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:Nor do you make your main diet
alfalfa, grasses, or hay. You add alfalfa *sprouts*, which cows do not
eat, and I doubt you add raw barley or hay, which cows eat regularly.
Cows can eat cooked barley.
See above.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:No matter how much you rename things to match your theories, salad and
fodder remain two separate things.
No matter how you try to refute it, there is nothing wrong with calling
what cows eat "salad" for purposes of enlightening folks that for losing
weight it is not what we eat but how much we eat that matters. The cows
aren't bothered by it, so why should you?
As shown above, cows eat next to anything if forced to. This does in no
way mean that all theses things are all that similar.
Btw., cows are proof that is _does_ matter what you eat. It is not
without reason that today many cows are fed food they wouldn't eat as
wild animals like carcass meal, fish meal or corn, because they gain
weight faster and give more milk on such an unnatural diet.
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Quoted message said:You would not survive on a cow's
diet since your stomach cannot process the cellulose--unless you have a
four-chambered stomach like cattle do.
Actually, that would depend on the actual composition of the diet.
Cellulose is fiber and though indigestible is not toxic.
Don Kirkman has already provided evidence that grass is usually regarded
as unfit for human food.
It is not without reason that humans don't usually eat grass although it
is available in large quantities in most parts. By the way, the
cellulose is not the only obstacle for humans trying to eat grass. Grass
also contains large quantities of silicate. Eating larger aomunts of
grass will soon enable your dentist to buy a new car (that is if you
don't die from starvation or intestinal obstruction first). Animals
subsisting on grass need teeth adapted to this kind of food and even
then the tearing down of the teeth is considerable and sometimes the
time until the teeth are gone is what limits the animals life (this can
happen to elephants, although they have several really large molars that
come into service successivly when the ones previously used are gone).
Cows solve this problem by ruminating.
Thorsten
