Re: OT: Still here after all...

Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 09:14:54p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

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"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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It's less likely to require upgrading as technology advances. Perhaps
more importantly, It's virtually impervious to climate changes and
moisture, will not short out, and can literally be buried in water.
It's thinner and more flexible than its coax counterpart, making
pulling additional lines through raceways much easier.

Our cable company (Metrocast) is in the process of upgrading to FO also.
They are adding more content, phone, lines, HDTV stations, etc when

done.

Quoted message said:

Our problem wasn't with our cable company, Ed. It was with the house
contractor that did all the internal pre-wiring. At least they used
raceways, which makes replacement/upgrading relatively simple. Cox already
had FO running up to the house.

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Date: Saturday, December 8th,2007

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Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 09:14:54p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

It's less likely to require upgrading as technology advances. Perhaps
more importantly, It's virtually impervious to climate changes and
moisture, will not short out, and can literally be buried in water.
It's thinner and more flexible than its coax counterpart, making
pulling additional lines through raceways much easier.

Our cable company (Metrocast) is in the process of upgrading to FO also.
They are adding more content, phone, lines, HDTV stations, etc when

done.

Quoted message said:

Our problem wasn't with our cable company, Ed. It was with the house
contractor that did all the internal pre-wiring. At least they used
raceways, which makes replacement/upgrading relatively simple. Cox already
had FO running up to the house.

Interesting, here in RI up the home is coaxial. The backboned feeding
the head end routers are all connected via fiber.

T said:

Interesting, here in RI up the home is coaxial. The backboned feeding
the head end routers are all connected via fiber.

Same here. We have underground copper in the neighborhood with
repeaters/amplifiers every 300-400 yards or so.

At least I think so. I'll have to check it out next time they
audit and disconnect me.

-sw

Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 11:10:55p, T meant to say...

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In article <[email hidden]>,
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Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 09:14:54p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>
> It's less likely to require upgrading as technology advances.
> Perhaps more importantly, It's virtually impervious to climate
> changes and moisture, will not short out, and can literally be
> buried in water. It's thinner and more flexible than its coax
> counterpart, making pulling additional lines through raceways much
> easier.

Our cable company (Metrocast) is in the process of upgrading to FO
also. They are adding more content, phone, lines, HDTV stations, etc
when done.

Our problem wasn't with our cable company, Ed. It was with the house
contractor that did all the internal pre-wiring. At least they used
raceways, which makes replacement/upgrading relatively simple. Cox
already had FO running up to the house.

Interesting, here in RI up the home is coaxial. The backboned feeding
the head end routers are all connected via fiber.

In our neighborhood, at least, there is a cable pedestal between every two
homes which are all FO fed. New construction homes are getting FO from the
pedestal to the house. My neighbor who has an older home, said they are
gradually replacing existing coax with FO from pedestal to house wherever
it currently exists.

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Wayne Boatwright

Date: December 9th,2007

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Wayne Boatwright said:

Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 09:14:54p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

Quoted message said:

It's less likely to require upgrading as technology advances. Perhaps
more importantly, It's virtually impervious to climate changes and
moisture, will not short out, and can literally be buried in water.
It's thinner and more flexible than its coax counterpart, making
pulling additional lines through raceways much easier.

Our cable company (Metrocast) is in the process of upgrading to FO also.
They are adding more content, phone, lines, HDTV stations, etc when

done.

Quoted message said:

Our problem wasn't with our cable company, Ed. It was with the house
contractor that did all the internal pre-wiring. At least they used
raceways, which makes replacement/upgrading relatively simple. Cox already
had FO running up to the house.

I wish I'd spoken to you before I wired the downstairs. Now I have to
ask if he used a "raceway" or not. I'm assuming that it's a conduit
of some sort.

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Oh pshaw, on Sun 09 Dec 2007 08:18:45a, meant to say...

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 09:14:54p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>
> It's less likely to require upgrading as technology advances.
> Perhaps more importantly, It's virtually impervious to climate
> changes and moisture, will not short out, and can literally be buried
> in water. It's thinner and more flexible than its coax counterpart,
> making pulling additional lines through raceways much easier.

Our cable company (Metrocast) is in the process of upgrading to FO
also. They are adding more content, phone, lines, HDTV stations, etc
when done.

Our problem wasn't with our cable company, Ed. It was with the house
contractor that did all the internal pre-wiring. At least they used
raceways, which makes replacement/upgrading relatively simple. Cox
already had FO running up to the house.

I wish I'd spoken to you before I wired the downstairs. Now I have to
ask if he used a "raceway" or not. I'm assuming that it's a conduit
of some sort.

Raceways are best installed during home construction, although it is
possible to put them into existing structures. It's just more expensive,
and often can be messy. If they used a large enough conduit, it shouldn't
be difficult to re-wire or add more wire.

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Wayne Boatwright

Date: Sunday, December(XII) 9th(IX),2007(MMVII)

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Wayne Boatwright said:

If they used a large enough conduit, it shouldn't
be difficult to re-wire or add more wire.

so a raceway is that tube you put electrical wires in?

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Oh pshaw, on Sun 09 Dec 2007 10:37:46a, meant to say...

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Wayne Boatwright said:

If they used a large enough conduit, it shouldn't be difficult to
re-wire or add more wire.

so a raceway is that tube you put electrical wires in?

Essentially, yes. However, they are frequently much larger diameter than
typical conduit and can accomodate a lot more wiring. They usually have
smoother and more broadly curving bends.

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Wayne Boatwright

Date: December 9th,2007

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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

T said:

Interesting, here in RI up the home is coaxial. The backboned feeding
the head end routers are all connected via fiber.

Same here. We have underground copper in the neighborhood with
repeaters/amplifiers every 300-400 yards or so.

At least I think so. I'll have to check it out next time they
audit and disconnect me.

-sw

Friends just moved into an apartment building and there were cable
outlets all over the place. They plugged in their television and guess
what, it's active cable.

Yes I know that technically it's theft of services but if Cox is too
stupid not to connect the entire building with amps and distro strips
too then it's their own damned fault.

Speaking of repeaters and amplifiers, Cox contracted with an outside
company to upgrades to those items in order to support higher speeds for
net service among other things.

The outside company fouled it up, didn't turn on the automatic
temperature controls pads in the amplifiers. This did stuttering wonders
for signal on the lines.

I know this because where I used to work we had a Cox Virtual Area
Network connection via coax from one office to the other. We had lots of
problems with that line and they still have problems to this day. Why?
Because one of the amplifiers is in a manhole that frequently floods.
Water is bad for those amplifiers.

And I had problems at the new place the first cold snap we got. I called
Cox from a payphone of all things and by the time I walked back to the
house there was a Cox truck at the pole down the street from me. Turns
out I knew the tech and yes, that was one of the amps that hadn't had
the gain control set correctly.

In article <[email hidden]>, sf says...

Quoted message said:

Wayne Boatwright said:

Oh pshaw, on Sat 08 Dec 2007 09:14:54p, Edwin Pawlowski meant to say...

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>
> It's less likely to require upgrading as technology advances. Perhaps
> more importantly, It's virtually impervious to climate changes and
> moisture, will not short out, and can literally be buried in water.
> It's thinner and more flexible than its coax counterpart, making
> pulling additional lines through raceways much easier.

Our cable company (Metrocast) is in the process of upgrading to FO also.
They are adding more content, phone, lines, HDTV stations, etc when

done.

Quoted message said:

Our problem wasn't with our cable company, Ed. It was with the house
contractor that did all the internal pre-wiring. At least they used
raceways, which makes replacement/upgrading relatively simple. Cox already
had FO running up to the house.

I wish I'd spoken to you before I wired the downstairs. Now I have to
ask if he used a "raceway" or not. I'm assuming that it's a conduit
of some sort.

A conduit is usually and enclosed circular length of tubing. A raceway
is a channel usually scooped out of a piece of wood or like material
that wire lays in. It's open so it's easier to place wire in the raceway
than it is to thread it through a conduit, though those of us who've
done conduits often leave a couple of pieces of string in the conduit
for future expansion.

T said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden]
says...

Quoted message said:

Same here. We have underground copper in the neighborhood with
repeaters/amplifiers every 300-400 yards or so.

I mean to say FEET instead of YARDS.

Quoted message said:

Friends just moved into an apartment building and there were cable
outlets all over the place. They plugged in their television and guess
what, it's active cable.

Yes I know that technically it's theft of services but if Cox is too
stupid not to connect the entire building with amps and distro strips
too then it's their own damned fault.

I don't think that's theft of service, as long as you did nothing
to activate it other than plugging your TV into a supplied
outlet.

Many apartment complexes provide free cable. I had one that
provided free satellite VIA a central dish in the complex.

Former tenants may have hooked up their own cable, or the cable
company just never got around to disconnecting it are other
possibilities. It's still not theft of service unless you caused
the line to your dwelling to be active (and they have to prove
it).

-sw