Re: Recommended wet weather stuff?

Rob Devereux said:

The Peter Storm
trousers are very cheap and very quick-drying - they outperform Rohan
trousers I have and didnt get ripped by barbed wire too!

That needs a bit of qualification... Rohan make (according to their web
site) 17 different varieties of men's trousers with very different
specifications, fabrics and target uses, some of which will be better
than others for walking. While I wear the almost iconic Rohan Bags for
day to day work wear, I never use them for walking: never found them
much good for that...

Pete.
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Rob Devereux said:

The Peter Storm
trousers are very cheap and very quick-drying - they outperform Rohan
trousers I have and didnt get ripped by barbed wire too!

That needs a bit of qualification... Rohan make (according to their web
site) 17 different varieties of men's trousers with very different
specifications, fabrics and target uses, some of which will be better
than others for walking. While I wear the almost iconic Rohan Bags for
day to day work wear, I never use them for walking: never found them
much good for that...

That's fair enough but I am not actually sure which ones they are. I
inherited them but was very p*****d off when the ripstop nylon didnt stop
ripping on a barbed wire fence. Like you, I tend to wear rohans for casual
use now but never walking - they are a bit restrictive for me too.

Rob Devereux said:

Like you, I tend to wear rohans for casual
use now but never walking - they are a bit restrictive for me too.

Which brings me back to my initial point: which Rohans?! I've worn my
Rohan Stretch salopettes for a week's ski tour with snowholing in Norway
which is hardly casual! I've done Yoga classes in a pair of the
original Uplanders, they're not restrictive at all, but they are a bit
baggier than I like. I wear Bags for work because they're a good mix of
smart, functional and comfortable, I prefer Goas for slumming about in
as they're more comfortable but there again aren't as smart. And so on.

Pete.
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Rob Devereux said:

Like you, I tend to wear rohans for casual
use now but never walking - they are a bit restrictive for me too.

Which brings me back to my initial point: which Rohans?! I've worn my
Rohan Stretch salopettes for a week's ski tour with snowholing in Norway
which is hardly casual! I've done Yoga classes in a pair of the
original Uplanders, they're not restrictive at all, but they are a bit
baggier than I like. I wear Bags for work because they're a good mix of
smart, functional and comfortable, I prefer Goas for slumming about in
as they're more comfortable but there again aren't as smart. And so on.

but to get back to the original point, the Rohans I have(and I havent seen
or heard different from anyone else) are fairly useless at drying quickly in
comparison with the Peter Storm walking trousers and they ripped a lot
easier.

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Rob Devereux said:

The Peter Storm
trousers are very cheap and very quick-drying - they outperform Rohan
trousers I have and didnt get ripped by barbed wire too!

That needs a bit of qualification... Rohan make (according to their web
site) 17 different varieties of men's trousers with very different
specifications, fabrics and target uses, some of which will be better
than others for walking. While I wear the almost iconic Rohan Bags for
day to day work wear, I never use them for walking: never found them
much good for that...

That's fair enough but I am not actually sure which ones they are. I
inherited them but was very p*****d off when the ripstop nylon didnt stop
ripping on a barbed wire fence. Like you, I tend to wear rohans for casual
use now but never walking - they are a bit restrictive for me too.

Which Rohan garments are made of ripstop nylon? Certainly not Bags,
their "signature" product.

I'd be surprised if the Peter Storm trousers were any better at
surviving an encounter with barbed wire than the Rohan whateveryouhave
were. I don't doubt that they are more affordable, though. How did
they outperform the Rohan product?

Bags are great for rambling over country footpaths, or for fine warm
days anywhere. All my shorts are Rohan, and they get a lot of use in
the summer months. On cooler days, I mostly use my venerable Super
Striders - yes, the unfashionable stretch breeks!

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I have a no-frills goretex jacket that never wets out or lets water in but
it rustles and is very cumbersome. I also have a Berghaus Paclite
jacket(with front zip because I couldnt face having to keep wrestling with
this) which seems to do the job.

Hi Rob,

Having only just noticed this thread, I'm a bit late in joining.
Anyway for what it's worth, for something really light-weight and very
useful, I find the Cag-in-a- Bag from Millets particularly good for wind
and rain. the jacket/cagoule packs into it's own front chest pocket- no
stuff bags to lose.

It is breathable as well.
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Rob Devereux said:

but to get back to the original point, the Rohans I have(and I havent seen
or heard different from anyone else) are fairly useless at drying quickly in
comparison with the Peter Storm walking trousers and they ripped a lot
easier.

But they make 17 sorts of trousers in their current line up, from
business suits to very tough stretch trousers that will do winter
mountaineering. The above is like saying "my Ford doesn't do off-road
very well!" without mentioning whether it's a Mondeo, an Explorer, a GT6
or a Formula Ford racing car.

So "Rohans" isn't much use. Rohan [insert model name here] might be.

Pete.
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Rob Devereux said:

but to get back to the original point, the Rohans I have(and I havent

seen

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or heard different from anyone else) are fairly useless at drying

quickly in

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comparison with the Peter Storm walking trousers and they ripped a lot
easier.

But they make 17 sorts of trousers in their current line up, from
business suits to very tough stretch trousers that will do winter
mountaineering. The above is like saying "my Ford doesn't do off-road
very well!" without mentioning whether it's a Mondeo, an Explorer, a GT6
or a Formula Ford racing car.

But the point I was making is that they didnt work for me in any of their
incarnations. As it happens, I cant remember which model I have but i was
trying to point out(however badly) that the Rohans costs a lot of money for
something that was supposed to have ripstop material and be built for the
outdoors and they performed less well than the very cheap, cheerful, but
highly recommended Peter Storm trousers(which was what the original poster
was asking about).

Rob Devereux said:

But the point I was making is that they didnt work for me in any of their
incarnations.

But you only ever mentioned one single pair of an unspecified model,
which is clearly not the same thing as "any of their incarnations", is
it? So how can you reasonably make that point?

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As it happens, I cant remember which model I have but i was
trying to point out(however badly) that the Rohans costs a lot of money for
something that was supposed to have ripstop material and be built for the
outdoors and they performed less well than the very cheap, cheerful, but
highly recommended Peter Storm trousers(which was what the original poster
was asking about).

But unless you're comparing like with like then that's still no use.
All you can usefully deduce is that some unknown model of Rohan
trousers, quite possibly no longer even available, made from ripstop
nylon aren't as good for your purposes as the Peter Storm Pair. Unless
we know what model you have that's basically of no use to anyone else.

IME Rohan have made some very good stuff and some complete stinkers that
should never have got off the drawing board. Consequently, generalising
that any random Rohan trousers are likely to be great, lousy or shades
between just because they're made by Rohan doesn't really work.

Pete.
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