Re: Robin Cook in walking accident

Bob Hobden said:

The former foreign secretary Robin Cook has died aged 59 after suffering a
heart attack.The Labour MP was walking with friends along Ben Stack in the
Highlands

Shame. One of the few mainstream politicians with the guts to stand up and
be counted as an opponent of the Iraq invasion.

Neil.

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The former foreign secretary Robin Cook has died aged 59 after suffering a
heart attack.The Labour MP was walking with friends along Ben Stack in the
Highlands

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beats a long stay in hospital I suppose. One year older than
me.........

Should I be worried? He was 2 years younger than me and I usually walk
alone without as much as a mobile for company. May go for a walk
tomorrow so if you don't hear from me again.....

--
Roger Chapman so far this year 50 summits
New - 27 (Marilyns 13, Nuttalls 5, Outlying Fells 10)
Repeats - 23 (Marilyns 7, Nuttalls 14, Wainwrights 12, Outlying Fells 0)

On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:35:38 +0100, Roger <[email hidden]>

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from The Reids <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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The former foreign secretary Robin Cook has died aged 59 after suffering a
heart attack.The Labour MP was walking with friends along Ben Stack in the
Highlands

Quoted message said:

beats a long stay in hospital I suppose. One year older than
me.........

Should I be worried? He was 2 years younger than me and I usually walk
alone without as much as a mobile for company. May go for a walk
tomorrow so if you don't hear from me again.....

Perhaps you should take a PLB with you.

"PLBs are portable units that operate much the same as EPIRBs or ELTs.
These beacons are designed to be carried by an individual person
instead of on a boat or aircraft. Unlike ELTs and some EPIRBs, they
can only be activated manually and operate exclusively on 406 MHz. And
like EPIRBs and ELTs all PLBs also have a built-in, low-power homing
beacon that transmits on 121.5 MHz. This allows rescue forces to home
in on a beacon once the 406 MHz satellite system has gotten them "in
the ballpark" (about 2-3 miles).Some newer PLBs also allow GPS units
to be integrated into the distress signal.This GPS-encoded position
dramatically improves the location accuracy down to the 100-meter
level…that’s roughly the size of a football field!"

Here we go again!!

Norman
ps You cant use them in the UK....yet.

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Should I be worried? He was 2 years younger than me

Seems very young for a heart attack - Was he a smoker?

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M Stewart
Milton Keynes, UK

Malcolm Stewart said:

Seems very young for a heart attack - Was he a smoker?

Don't know, but plenty of other possible risk factors. He lived
and had grown up in Scotland, the World #1 Hot Spot for heart
disease for a number of reasons, and though clearly not afraid of
exercise you can't say his lifestyle was low stress.
Don't remember John Smith being a chimney, but he was a keen
hillwalker. So it goes.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 15:35:38 +0100, Roger <[email hidden]>

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from The Reids <[email hidden]> contains these words:

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>The former foreign secretary Robin Cook has died aged 59 after
>suffering a
>heart attack.The Labour MP was walking with friends along Ben Stack in
>the
>Highlands

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beats a long stay in hospital I suppose. One year older than
me.........

Should I be worried? He was 2 years younger than me and I usually walk
alone without as much as a mobile for company. May go for a walk
tomorrow so if you don't hear from me again.....

Perhaps you should take a PLB with you.

"PLBs are portable units that operate much the same as EPIRBs or ELTs.
These beacons are designed to be carried by an individual person
instead of on a boat or aircraft. Unlike ELTs and some EPIRBs, they
can only be activated manually and operate exclusively on 406 MHz. And
like EPIRBs and ELTs all PLBs also have a built-in, low-power homing
beacon that transmits on 121.5 MHz. This allows rescue forces to home
in on a beacon once the 406 MHz satellite system has gotten them "in
the ballpark" (about 2-3 miles).Some newer PLBs also allow GPS units
to be integrated into the distress signal.This GPS-encoded position
dramatically improves the location accuracy down to the 100-meter
level.that's roughly the size of a football field!"

Here we go again!!

A mobile phone can be tracked down, even when switched off.

--
Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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"Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Should I be worried? He was 2 years younger than me

Seems very young for a heart attack - Was he a smoker?

59? Young for a heart attack?

My grandad was in his early 50s

Your diet, alcohol, drugs, and any long term diseases you have also affect
your expected lifespan.

Niall

theo <[email hidden]> writes

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A mobile phone can be tracked down, even when switched off.

How?
Mine transmits nothing until switched on, I think you mean that it can
be tracked down when not in use.
--
Gordon Harris

theo <[email hidden]> writes

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A mobile phone can be tracked down, even when switched off.

How?
Mine transmits nothing until switched on, I think you mean that it can
be tracked down when not in use.
--
Gordon Harris

theo said:

A mobile phone can be tracked down, even when switched off.

I've tried reading this three times, backwards, and upside down, and it
still makes no sense.

PLEASE tell me how you can track a transmitter that is switched off!
It's just an inert lump of plastic and contaminated sand with metal bits
attached.

Now, if you mean a phone that is not making a call, but is still
switched on, then I'll believe you. Even then, the best you can do is
track down the cell it is in. This won't help you much in a mountain
rescue scenario...

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theo said:

A mobile phone can be tracked down, even when switched off.

I've tried reading this three times, backwards, and upside down, and it
still makes no sense.

PLEASE tell me how you can track a transmitter that is switched off! It's
just an inert lump of plastic and contaminated sand with metal bits
attached.

Now, if you mean a phone that is not making a call, but is still switched
on, then I'll believe you. Even then, the best you can do is track down
the cell it is in. This won't help you much in a mountain rescue
scenario...

Technically speaking, I don't know how they do it but I know that the police
uses this information to check where (the mobile of) a criminal has been. It
has to be within reach of a antenna.
Big brother is watching you :-(

--
Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

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Technically speaking, I don't know how they do it but I know that the police
uses this information to check where (the mobile of) a criminal has been. It
has to be within reach of a antenna.
Big brother is watching you :-(

In the recent case of the bomber (alleged) who went to Rome I'm sure
they mentioned that his phone appeared on their screens when he switched
it on.
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Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
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Following up to Roger

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beats a long stay in hospital I suppose. One year older than
me.........

Should I be worried? He was 2 years younger than me and I usually walk
alone without as much as a mobile for company.

Not worried maybe. I would consider how I might make contact in
the case of emergency or to stop alarm being raised if you decide
to stay out.
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
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Neil Tonks said:

Bob Hobden said:

The former foreign secretary Robin Cook has died aged 59 after suffering a
heart attack.The Labour MP was walking with friends along Ben Stack in the
Highlands

Shame. One of the few mainstream politicians with the guts to stand up and
be counted as an opponent of the Iraq invasion.

Another source of informed opposition to the control freaks gone.

Politicians with integrity are are precious asset. Will be missed.

Richard Webb

Following up to Peter Clinch

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Don't remember John Smith being a chimney, but he was a keen
hillwalker.

He likes a glass of Chardonnay and I think? he took up
hillwalking for his health, perhaps too late?
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
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On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 23:56:15 +0100, Gordon <[email hidden]>

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theo <[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

A mobile phone can be tracked down, even when switched off.

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How?
Mine transmits nothing until switched on, I think you mean that it can
be tracked down when not in use.

No, it's true: the very new ones can be tracked down even when
switched off. The authorities have satellite cameras which hone in on
knots of sinister looking, hooded figures stalking innocent users and
waiting for an opportunity to grab and run...

Best wishes,
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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
wonderful person theo <[email hidden]> said

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

A mobile phone can be tracked down, even when switched off.

I've tried reading this three times, backwards, and upside down, and it
still makes no sense.

PLEASE tell me how you can track a transmitter that is switched off! It's
just an inert lump of plastic and contaminated sand with metal bits
attached.

Now, if you mean a phone that is not making a call, but is still switched
on, then I'll believe you. Even then, the best you can do is track down
the cell it is in. This won't help you much in a mountain rescue
scenario...

Technically speaking, I don't know how they do it but I know that the police
uses this information to check where (the mobile of) a criminal has been. It
has to be within reach of a antenna.

=And= it has to be switched on (on standby, ready to receive incoming
call). Turn it off and it's no more 'trackable' than your boots are.

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Contact recommends the use of Firefox; SC recommends it at gunpoint.

The Reids said:

Following up to Peter Clinch

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Don't remember John Smith being a chimney, but he was a keen
hillwalker.

He likes a glass of Chardonnay and I think? he took up
hillwalking for his health, perhaps too late?

Glasgow Herald today was warning the over 50s not to give up the hill
bashing.....

Richard Webb

Following up to Richard Webb

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Quoted message said:

He likes a glass of Chardonnay and I think? he took up
hillwalking for his health, perhaps too late?

Glasgow Herald today was warning the over 50s not to give up the hill
bashing.....

I'll be in Wasdale in October and January, Northern Isles next
June, tell the Herald to relax. What I need to give up is booze,
but why have a long miserable life?
--
Mike Reid
Walk-eat-UK "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
Walk-eat-Spain "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk" <-- dontuse@ all, it's a spamtrap
Photos of both "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"