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Re: St Pancras and cycling

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  1. On Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:08:43 GMT someone who may be "Craig"
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    just because cycles are greener does not mean that every
    transport mode, interchange or package holiday has to be bike friendly or
    offer a bike option.

    There's none so blind.

    People have pointed out that it is possible to take a bike on a
    number of competitors, without so much hassle as Eurostar force them
    to go through. I didn't realise Eurostar was doing so well that it
    could decide to tell one group of potential customers to get stuffed
    as it is not interested in their business and they should use
    competitors. The attitude explains a lot.

    Many of these potential customers would like to use the train for
    many reasons, but are unable to do so because the operators treat
    them even more badly than aeroplane companies do (and that takes
    some doing).

    Quoted message said:

    The vast majority of passengers on Eurostar don't want to take a bike

    The vast majority of passengers on proper trains don't want to take
    a suitcase or a pram. However, that does not mean that they are
    forced to send their suitcase or pram 24 hours in advance or
    dismantle it and put it in a special bag.

    Quoted message said:

    or have issues with panniers at the other end,

    Sorry, I can't follow this bit.

    Quoted message said:

    nor does
    everyone have the ability to get to London by train, with a bike at all
    times of the day.

    Those who want to get to London by train will be the ones travelling
    from further afield. They have the ability to do so without all the
    nonsense Eurostar have decided to force on anyone determined enough
    to want to travel. When they arrive in London they can cycle to St
    Pancras, cycling between most of the London terminals is far quicker
    than any other means of transport, other than perhaps a criminally
    ridden motorbike.

    --
    David Hansen, Edinburgh
    I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me
    http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54

  2. David Hansen said:

    "Craig" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    just because cycles are greener does not mean that every
    transport mode, interchange or package holiday has to be bike friendly or
    offer a bike option.

    Quoted message said:

    There's none so blind.

    Quoted message said:

    People have pointed out that it is possible to take a bike on a
    number of competitors, without so much hassle as Eurostar force them
    to go through. I didn't realise Eurostar was doing so well that it
    could decide to tell one group of potential customers to get stuffed
    as it is not interested in their business and they should use
    competitors. The attitude explains a lot.

    Don't take it so personally - they take exactly the same attitude to
    anyone with non-standard luggage. I went to Paris by Eurostar a few
    years ago and wanted to take a musical instrument in a case with me
    (as well as normal luggage). They wanted £30 or so for the carriage of
    the guitar. I did without. And that was only a (smallish) instrument.
    I expect they'd want £100 to take a bike.

    I'm sure British Airways don't charge that much.

  3. David Hansen said:

    People have pointed out that it is possible to take a bike on a
    number of competitors, without so much hassle as Eurostar force them
    to go through. I didn't realise Eurostar was doing so well that it
    could decide to tell one group of potential customers to get stuffed
    as it is not interested in their business and they should use
    competitors. The attitude explains a lot.

    There is another group of customers for whom they seem to be taking
    exactly that viewpoint. I'm not going into details here, as the matter
    is currently subject to correspondence.

    Suffice to say that, if the written apology I've asked for is not
    forthcoming, I won't be using their services again.

    --
    Regards

    Mike

    mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

  4. JNugent said:


    I'm sure British Airways don't charge that much.

    A friend of mine took a bike on BA a couple of weeks ago, from LHR to
    Geneva. The bike was packed, pedals and handlebars detached, in a box,
    rather than a bag.

    There was no charge for the service.

    Apparently Easyjet offer the service out of Luton, for a small fee.

    --
    Regards

    Mike

    mikedotroebuckatgmxdotnet

  5. "Mike Roebuck" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Apparently Easyjet offer the service out of Luton, for a small fee.

    Out of Liverpool Speke (aka John Lennon) too. Boxed tandem made it, no
    problems - and that's a big box.

    cheers,
    clive

  6. Am Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:19:10 UTC, schrieb JNugent
    <[email hidden]> auf uk.railway :

    Quoted message said:

    I went to Paris by Eurostar a few years ago and wanted
    to take a musical instrument in a case with me
    (as well as normal luggage). They wanted £30 or so for the carriage of
    the guitar.

    What?? Really? Incredible... Why? If it was a boxed contrabass, I
    could imagine that you would have problems getting thru the door in
    the first place, but a guitar is much smaller, not larger than a
    regular suitcase.

    Cheers,
    L.W.

  7. Lüko Willms said:

    Am Wed, 24 Oct 2007 16:19:10 UTC, schrieb JNugent
    <[email hidden]> auf uk.railway :

    Quoted message said:

    I went to Paris by Eurostar a few years ago and wanted
    to take a musical instrument in a case with me
    (as well as normal luggage). They wanted £30 or so for the carriage of
    the guitar.

    What?? Really? Incredible... Why? If it was a boxed contrabass, I
    could imagine that you would have problems getting thru the door in
    the first place, but a guitar is much smaller, not larger than a
    regular suitcase.

    Cheers,
    L.W.

    It might not have been exactly £30, but it was of that order (ie,
    about 50% - 60% of the ticket price).

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