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  1. jim beam said:
    Peter Cole said:
    jim beam said:

    Peter Cole wrote:
    > jim beam wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> citing a manufacturer web site as if to say stainless steel has
    >> fatigue endurance, when it doesn't actually say that, is not
    >> "citation of a reputable source"!!!
    >
    > No, the term is "endurance limit", and they did say that.

    there's no "knee" in the graph...

    No, of course not, there's no knee on the graph on the Sandvik site.
    Oh, but they're liars anyway. You're a riot.

    the knee is what evidences a true endurance limit. i'm sorry that
    doesn't suit your argument, but it's the truth nevertheless.

    Of course a knee shows endurance limit, there is a knee in the graph on
    the Sandvik (makers of spoke wire) site, plus a description of the knee
    in the accompanying text. Stop twisting, calling everyone "liars" and
    "stupid" and admit you are wrong.

  2. Peter Cole said:
    jim beam said:
    Peter Cole said:

    jim beam wrote:
    > Peter Cole wrote:
    >> jim beam wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>> citing a manufacturer web site as if to say stainless steel has
    >>> fatigue endurance, when it doesn't actually say that, is not
    >>> "citation of a reputable source"!!!
    >>
    >> No, the term is "endurance limit", and they did say that.
    >
    > there's no "knee" in the graph...

    No, of course not, there's no knee on the graph on the Sandvik site.
    Oh, but they're liars anyway. You're a riot.

    the knee is what evidences a true endurance limit. i'm sorry that
    doesn't suit your argument, but it's the truth nevertheless.

    Of course a knee shows endurance limit, there is a knee in the graph on
    the Sandvik (makers of spoke wire) site, plus a description of the knee
    in the accompanying text. Stop twisting, calling everyone "liars" and
    "stupid" and admit you are wrong.

    for stainless, the graph is simply bent. unless you're looking at
    something i haven't seen and you're [conveniently] not citing. what,
    peter cole [censored]? never!

  3. jim beam said:
    Peter Cole said:
    jim beam said:

    Peter Cole wrote:
    > jim beam wrote:
    >> Peter Cole wrote:
    >>> jim beam wrote:

    Quoted message said:

    >>>> citing a manufacturer web site as if to say stainless steel has
    >>>> fatigue endurance, when it doesn't actually say that, is not
    >>>> "citation of a reputable source"!!!
    >>>
    >>> No, the term is "endurance limit", and they did say that.
    >>
    >> there's no "knee" in the graph...
    >
    > No, of course not, there's no knee on the graph on the Sandvik site.
    > Oh, but they're liars anyway. You're a riot.

    the knee is what evidences a true endurance limit. i'm sorry that
    doesn't suit your argument, but it's the truth nevertheless.

    Of course a knee shows endurance limit, there is a knee in the graph
    on the Sandvik (makers of spoke wire) site, plus a description of the
    knee in the accompanying text. Stop twisting, calling everyone "liars"
    and "stupid" and admit you are wrong.

    for stainless, the graph is simply bent. unless you're looking at
    something i haven't seen and you're [conveniently] not citing. what,
    peter cole [censored]? never!

    As I said (immediately above), the graph and description of the graph is
    on the Sandvik site. Your rebuttal is that they are liars. This is your
    standard reply when sources disagree with your beliefs.

  4. Peter Cole said:
    jim beam said:
    Peter Cole said:

    jim beam wrote:
    > Peter Cole wrote:
    >> jim beam wrote:
    >>> Peter Cole wrote:
    >>>> jim beam wrote:

    >>>>> citing a manufacturer web site as if to say stainless steel has
    >>>>> fatigue endurance, when it doesn't actually say that, is not
    >>>>> "citation of a reputable source"!!!
    >>>>
    >>>> No, the term is "endurance limit", and they did say that.
    >>>
    >>> there's no "knee" in the graph...
    >>
    >> No, of course not, there's no knee on the graph on the Sandvik
    >> site. Oh, but they're liars anyway. You're a riot.
    >
    > the knee is what evidences a true endurance limit. i'm sorry that
    > doesn't suit your argument, but it's the truth nevertheless.

    Of course a knee shows endurance limit, there is a knee in the graph
    on the Sandvik (makers of spoke wire) site, plus a description of the
    knee in the accompanying text. Stop twisting, calling everyone
    "liars" and "stupid" and admit you are wrong.

    for stainless, the graph is simply bent. unless you're looking at
    something i haven't seen and you're [conveniently] not citing. what,
    peter cole [censored]? never!

    As I said (immediately above), the graph and description of the graph is
    on the Sandvik site.

    it's bent - that's not a "knee".

    Quoted message said:

    Your rebuttal is that they are liars.

    no, my rebuttal was that they're simplifying to terminology "engineers"
    understand. [and evidently failing in this case.]

    Quoted message said:

    This is your
    standard reply when sources disagree with your beliefs.

    why do you always twist and misinterpret? i've explained the graphical
    difference between a true endurance limit and the commonly cited
    "fatigue limit". i've even explained the mechanism as to why these two
    different phenomena are observed. but here you are reverting to
    deliberate misconstruction. what is your problem? what do you have to
    lose by learning?

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