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Re: Vitamins E and C Confirmed Safe at High Doses

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  1. The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), founded in 1973, is a
    Washington, D.C.-based trade association representing dietary
    supplement industry ingredient suppliers and manufacturers.
    Laymen like myself have to choose between sources of information.
    In Feb05 Berkely University posted this information:
    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsVitaminE.php

    Claims, Benefits: Helps prevent cancer, heart disease, cataracts.

    Bottom Line: There's little or no clinical research showing that vitamin E
    supplements are beneficial. Nearly all the clinical trials on E from the
    past few years have yielded negative, inconclusive, or neutral results.
    Thus, we no longer recommend supplements.

    John

  2. "John H" <JohnH@dotcomdotcom> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), founded in 1973, is a
    Washington, D.C.-based trade association representing dietary
    supplement industry ingredient suppliers and manufacturers.
    Laymen like myself have to choose between sources of information.
    In Feb05 Berkely University posted this information:
    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsVitaminE.php

    Claims, Benefits: Helps prevent cancer, heart disease, cataracts.

    Bottom Line: There's little or no clinical research showing that vitamin E
    supplements are beneficial. Nearly all the clinical trials on E from the
    past few years have yielded negative, inconclusive, or neutral results.
    Thus, we no longer recommend supplements.

    John

    Vitamin E deficiency in humans is so rare as to be almost non-existant. It
    occurs mostly in association with other disorders, such as post-gastrectomy.
    Even a junk food diet is rich in Vitamin E because it is abundant in most
    food fats. Most of the "benefits" are claimed for megadose use, and, as you
    say, there is little evidence those benefits acrue.

    --

    --Rich De gustibus non est disputandum.

  3. "John H" <JohnH@dotcomdotcom> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), founded in 1973, is a
    Washington, D.C.-based trade association representing dietary
    supplement industry ingredient suppliers and manufacturers.
    Laymen like myself have to choose between sources of information.
    In Feb05 Berkely University posted this information:
    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsVitaminE.php

    Claims, Benefits: Helps prevent cancer, heart disease, cataracts.

    Bottom Line: There's little or no clinical research showing that vitamin E
    supplements are beneficial. Nearly all the clinical trials on E from the
    past few years have yielded negative, inconclusive, or neutral results.
    Thus, we no longer recommend supplements.

    John

    Vitamin E deficiency in humans is so rare as to be almost non-existant. It
    occurs mostly in association with other disorders, such as post-gastrectomy.
    Even a junk food diet is rich in Vitamin E because it is abundant in most
    food fats. Most of the "benefits" are claimed for megadose use, and, as you
    say, there is little evidence those benefits acrue.

    --

    --Rich De gustibus non est disputandum.

  4. For your consideration:

    Serum Alpha-Tocopherol Status in the United States Population: Findings
    from the Third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey

    Ford, Earl S. and Sowell Anne, "Serum Alpha-Tocopherol Status in the
    United States Population: Findings from the Third National Health and
    Nutrition Examination Survey", American Journal of Epidemiology,
    January 1, 1999, Vol. 150, Num. 3, pp. 290-300

    "About 27% of the US population had a low alpha-tocopherol
    concentration. ... These results show that important proportions of US
    adults have a low serum alpha-tocopherol concentration, which may
    increase their risk for chronic diseases in which low dietary intake or
    blood concentration of alpha-tocopherol have been implicated."

  5. John H said:

    The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), founded in 1973, is a
    Washington, D.C.-based trade association representing dietary
    supplement industry ingredient suppliers and manufacturers.
    Laymen like myself have to choose between sources of information.
    In Feb05 Berkely University posted this information:
    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsVitaminE.php

    Claims, Benefits: Helps prevent cancer, heart disease, cataracts.

    Bottom Line: There's little or no clinical research showing that


    vitamin E

    Quoted message said:

    supplements are beneficial. Nearly all the clinical trials on E from


    the

    Quoted message said:

    past few years have yielded negative, inconclusive, or neutral


    results.

    Quoted message said:

    Thus, we no longer recommend supplements.

    John

    Laymen like yourself should be better educated, evaluating the QUALITY
    of information rather than attempting to choose between SOURCES of
    information before making an informed decision. If you are waiting for
    scientific studies to fall into lockstep on any matter relating to
    public health, you are going to be very disappointed. You refer to The
    Council for Responsible Nutrition, yet only provide a quotation and
    link to Berkley's waffling after admitting they did exactly as you have
    done -- giving more weight to recent studies simply because of that
    fact. It so happens that many of the earlier studies were also of
    higher quality, and often MUCH larger. The HOPE-TOO trial evaluated
    only +70 year olds in poor health who were also on a variety of
    prescription medications. A number of conventional drugs are known to
    interfere with nutrient function and vitamin uptake.

    See the link at CRN providing a list of vitamin E benefits supported in
    the earlier studies: http://www.crnusa.org/vitaminEissafe.html and a
    link discussing the poor quality of the recent negative vitamin E
    trial, at
    http://nutrition.about.com/od/researchstudies/a/vitaminecrn.htm.

    Peter

  6. John H said:

    The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), founded in 1973, is a
    Washington, D.C.-based trade association representing dietary
    supplement industry ingredient suppliers and manufacturers.
    Laymen like myself have to choose between sources of information.
    In Feb05 Berkely University posted this information:
    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsVitaminE.php

    Claims, Benefits: Helps prevent cancer, heart disease, cataracts.

    Bottom Line: There's little or no clinical research showing that vitamin E
    supplements are beneficial. Nearly all the clinical trials on E from the
    past few years have yielded negative, inconclusive, or neutral results.
    Thus, we no longer recommend supplements.

    John


    We want you to take PILLS from DRUG companies instead. . .

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Steve Cannon said:
    John H said:

    The Council for Responsible Nutrition (CRN), founded in 1973, is a
    Washington, D.C.-based trade association representing dietary
    supplement industry ingredient suppliers and manufacturers.
    Laymen like myself have to choose between sources of information.
    In Feb05 Berkely University posted this information:
    http://www.berkeleywellness.com/html/ds/dsVitaminE.php

    Claims, Benefits: Helps prevent cancer, heart disease, cataracts.

    Bottom Line: There's little or no clinical research showing that vitamin E
    supplements are beneficial. Nearly all the clinical trials on E from the
    past few years have yielded negative, inconclusive, or neutral results.
    Thus, we no longer recommend supplements.

    John

    We want you to take PILLS from DRUG companies instead. . .

    Where do you think vitamin E supplements come from? You think they
    grow on trees?

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    meaning of the word 'quit.' Well, apparently he's not all
    that conversant with the word 'shame' either." (Will Durst)

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