Re: Waterproof Clothes

Per Craig:

Quoted message said:

I've got a rip-stop lightweight Gortex jacket but I can't find anywhere that
will do lightweight ripstop leggings.

Anyone have ideas?

Last year, I bread boarded a pair from Tyvec, figuring once I got them working
I'd ask Penny to make a pair up for me.

For me, the idea was something that would overlap my riding shoes like spats
and, if it rained hard enough, let me put my trousers over top of them to
prevent water accumulating in my shoes.
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PeteCresswell

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(PeteCresswell) said:

Per Craig:

Quoted message said:

I've got a rip-stop lightweight Gortex jacket but I can't find
anywhere that will do lightweight ripstop leggings.

Anyone have ideas?

Last year, I bread boarded a pair from Tyvec, figuring once I got
them working I'd ask Penny to make a pair up for me.

For me, the idea was something that would overlap my riding shoes
like spats and, if it rained hard enough, let me put my trousers over
top of them to prevent water accumulating in my shoes.

I'm not sure where the original post went, but I can make a few comments.
It's really hard to get a nice, close fit, especially a

cycling-appropriate

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fit, without fabric that has significant stretch. And you can't get
waterproof anything that has enough give to it. The new stretch goretexes
are better than a plain weave, but they do not have what it takes to be

made

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into tights.

I can come up with lots of variations on the gaiter/spats idea, but they

are

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all problematic. There has to be a good way to cinch up the leg so that

the

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pants leg doesn't get eaten by the chain ring; this is why tights are much
better than even a close cut pant.

I rode a lot in my soft shell pants last winter. Water beads up on them OK
but they would really suck in a down pour. They are OK for mist, light
drizzle, snow. They are wicking and breathable, so they never got to hot.
They are ( of course) a custom job and I cut them very slim through the
calf, but they still got caught by my big ring once or twice.

When I've ridden in ordinary, baggy w/profs I've had no such trouble - I use
cycle clip type affairs, that I made out of Velcro strips - hooks one side,
hoops the other - just fold the pants leg round and wrap with the Velcro
strap. Such a thing could possibly be stitched into the seam?

Shaun aRe

Shaun aRe said:

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(PeteCresswell) said:

Per Craig:
> I've got a rip-stop lightweight Gortex jacket but I can't find
> anywhere that will do lightweight ripstop leggings.
>
> Anyone have ideas?

Last year, I bread boarded a pair from Tyvec, figuring once I got
them working I'd ask Penny to make a pair up for me.

For me, the idea was something that would overlap my riding shoes
like spats and, if it rained hard enough, let me put my trousers
over top of them to prevent water accumulating in my shoes.

I'm not sure where the original post went, but I can make a few
comments. It's really hard to get a nice, close fit, especially a
cycling-appropriate fit, without fabric that has significant
stretch. And you can't get waterproof anything that has enough give
to it. The new stretch goretexes are better than a plain weave, but
they do not have what it takes to be made into tights.

I can come up with lots of variations on the gaiter/spats idea, but
they are all problematic. There has to be a good way to cinch up the
leg so that the pants leg doesn't get eaten by the chain ring; this
is why tights are much better than even a close cut pant.

I rode a lot in my soft shell pants last winter. Water beads up on
them OK but they would really suck in a down pour. They are OK for
mist, light drizzle, snow. They are wicking and breathable, so they
never got to hot. They are ( of course) a custom job and I cut them
very slim through the calf, but they still got caught by my big ring
once or twice.

When I've ridden in ordinary, baggy w/profs I've had no such trouble
- I use cycle clip type affairs, that I made out of Velcro strips -
hooks one side, hoops the other - just fold the pants leg round and
wrap with the Velcro strap. Such a thing could possibly be stitched
into the seam?

yep.

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Shaun aRe

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Shaun aRe said:

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(PeteCresswell) wrote:
> Per Craig:
>> I've got a rip-stop lightweight Gortex jacket but I can't find
>> anywhere that will do lightweight ripstop leggings.
>>
>> Anyone have ideas?
>
> Last year, I bread boarded a pair from Tyvec, figuring once I got
> them working I'd ask Penny to make a pair up for me.
>
> For me, the idea was something that would overlap my riding shoes
> like spats and, if it rained hard enough, let me put my trousers
> over top of them to prevent water accumulating in my shoes.

I'm not sure where the original post went, but I can make a few
comments. It's really hard to get a nice, close fit, especially a
cycling-appropriate fit, without fabric that has significant
stretch. And you can't get waterproof anything that has enough give
to it. The new stretch goretexes are better than a plain weave, but
they do not have what it takes to be made into tights.

I can come up with lots of variations on the gaiter/spats idea, but
they are all problematic. There has to be a good way to cinch up the
leg so that the pants leg doesn't get eaten by the chain ring; this
is why tights are much better than even a close cut pant.

I rode a lot in my soft shell pants last winter. Water beads up on
them OK but they would really suck in a down pour. They are OK for
mist, light drizzle, snow. They are wicking and breathable, so they
never got to hot. They are ( of course) a custom job and I cut them
very slim through the calf, but they still got caught by my big ring
once or twice.

When I've ridden in ordinary, baggy w/profs I've had no such trouble
- I use cycle clip type affairs, that I made out of Velcro strips -
hooks one side, hoops the other - just fold the pants leg round and
wrap with the Velcro strap. Such a thing could possibly be stitched
into the seam?

yep.

See - I knew I could do your job.

Shaun aRe

I have an ancient set of light cotton gaiters that were originally used to
keep burrs and stickers out of hiking socks. During "peak" season I
sometimes use these as an ankle/shin cover when riding areas with lots of
known poison oak. So far so good, except for the incredible geek factor.

I've often thought about adding a couple of elastic "bands" to the top of
them to keep them up better. For my uses it wasn't critical, and they
already have elastic at the boot-top and ankle spots, so I rarely caught a
ring.

Then I thought about a semi-rigid vertical support that would keep them from
falling down, but couldn't come up with any material ideas other than old
tire pieces, hardly comfy. I also discarded the idea of a garter-like
support because, well, I just won't go there...

If you come up with something workable, let us all know.

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Quoted message said:

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per Craig:

Quoted message said:

I've got a rip-stop lightweight Gortex jacket but I can't find
anywhere that will do lightweight ripstop leggings.

Anyone have ideas?

Last year, I bread boarded a pair from Tyvec, figuring once I got
them working I'd ask Penny to make a pair up for me.

For me, the idea was something that would overlap my riding shoes
like spats and, if it rained hard enough, let me put my trousers over
top of them to prevent water accumulating in my shoes.

I'm not sure where the original post went, but I can make a few comments.
It's really hard to get a nice, close fit, especially a

cycling-appropriate

Quoted message said:

fit, without fabric that has significant stretch. And you can't get
waterproof anything that has enough give to it. The new stretch goretexes
are better than a plain weave, but they do not have what it takes to be

made

Quoted message said:

into tights.

I can come up with lots of variations on the gaiter/spats idea, but they

are

Quoted message said:

all problematic. There has to be a good way to cinch up the leg so that

the

Quoted message said:

pants leg doesn't get eaten by the chain ring; this is why tights are much
better than even a close cut pant.

I rode a lot in my soft shell pants last winter. Water beads up on them OK
but they would really suck in a down pour. They are OK for mist, light
drizzle, snow. They are wicking and breathable, so they never got to hot.
They are ( of course) a custom job and I cut them very slim through the
calf, but they still got caught by my big ring once or twice.

random thoughts.

penny

GWood said:

I have an ancient set of light cotton gaiters that were originally
used to keep burrs and stickers out of hiking socks. During "peak"
season I sometimes use these as an ankle/shin cover when riding areas
with lots of known poison oak. So far so good, except for the
incredible geek factor.

I've often thought about adding a couple of elastic "bands" to the
top of them to keep them up better. For my uses it wasn't critical,
and they already have elastic at the boot-top and ankle spots, so I
rarely caught a ring.

Then I thought about a semi-rigid vertical support that would keep
them from falling down, but couldn't come up with any material ideas
other than old tire pieces, hardly comfy. I also discarded the idea
of a garter-like support because, well, I just won't go there...

If you come up with something workable, let us all know.

So, let me get this straight. You all want rainpants, with built in gaiters
that go over shoes to keep the rain out? Must be abrasion, thorn resistant,
breathable, anything else?

small change said:

GWood said:

I have an ancient set of light cotton gaiters that were originally
used to keep burrs and stickers out of hiking socks. During "peak"
season I sometimes use these as an ankle/shin cover when riding areas
with lots of known poison oak. So far so good, except for the
incredible geek factor.

I've often thought about adding a couple of elastic "bands" to the
top of them to keep them up better. For my uses it wasn't critical,
and they already have elastic at the boot-top and ankle spots, so I
rarely caught a ring.

Then I thought about a semi-rigid vertical support that would keep
them from falling down, but couldn't come up with any material ideas
other than old tire pieces, hardly comfy. I also discarded the idea
of a garter-like support because, well, I just won't go there...

If you come up with something workable, let us all know.

So, let me get this straight. You all want rainpants, with built in gaiters
that go over shoes to keep the rain out? Must be abrasion, thorn resistant,
breathable, anything else?

Free? 🙂

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GWood said:

I have an ancient set of light cotton gaiters that were originally
used to keep burrs and stickers out of hiking socks. During "peak"
season I sometimes use these as an ankle/shin cover when riding areas
with lots of known poison oak. So far so good, except for the
incredible geek factor.

I've often thought about adding a couple of elastic "bands" to the
top of them to keep them up better. For my uses it wasn't critical,
and they already have elastic at the boot-top and ankle spots, so I
rarely caught a ring.

Then I thought about a semi-rigid vertical support that would keep
them from falling down, but couldn't come up with any material ideas
other than old tire pieces, hardly comfy. I also discarded the idea
of a garter-like support because, well, I just won't go there...

If you come up with something workable, let us all know.

So, let me get this straight. You all want rainpants, with built in
gaiters that go over shoes to keep the rain out? Must be abrasion, thorn
resistant, breathable, anything else?

err, none for me thank you!

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So, let me get this straight. You all want rainpants, with built in
gaiters that go over shoes to keep the rain out? Must be abrasion, thorn
resistant, breathable, anything else?

Don't forget stylish, machine washable, and a lifetime warrenty.

Tom

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GWood said:

I have an ancient set of light cotton gaiters that were originally
used to keep burrs and stickers out of hiking socks. During "peak"
season I sometimes use these as an ankle/shin cover when riding areas
with lots of known poison oak. So far so good, except for the
incredible geek factor.

I've often thought about adding a couple of elastic "bands" to the
top of them to keep them up better. For my uses it wasn't critical,
and they already have elastic at the boot-top and ankle spots, so I
rarely caught a ring.

Then I thought about a semi-rigid vertical support that would keep
them from falling down, but couldn't come up with any material ideas
other than old tire pieces, hardly comfy. I also discarded the idea
of a garter-like support because, well, I just won't go there...

If you come up with something workable, let us all know.

So, let me get this straight. You all want rainpants, with built in

gaiters

Quoted message said:

that go over shoes to keep the rain out? Must be abrasion, thorn

resistant,

Quoted message said:

breathable, anything else?

I wonder if they sell gortex fabric at a fabric store....

Micheal Artindale said:

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GWood said:

I have an ancient set of light cotton gaiters that were originally
used to keep burrs and stickers out of hiking socks. During "peak"
season I sometimes use these as an ankle/shin cover when riding
areas with lots of known poison oak. So far so good, except for the
incredible geek factor.

I've often thought about adding a couple of elastic "bands" to the
top of them to keep them up better. For my uses it wasn't critical,
and they already have elastic at the boot-top and ankle spots, so I
rarely caught a ring.

Then I thought about a semi-rigid vertical support that would keep
them from falling down, but couldn't come up with any material ideas
other than old tire pieces, hardly comfy. I also discarded the idea
of a garter-like support because, well, I just won't go there...

If you come up with something workable, let us all know.

So, let me get this straight. You all want rainpants, with built in
gaiters that go over shoes to keep the rain out? Must be abrasion,
thorn resistant, breathable, anything else?

I wonder if they sell gortex fabric at a fabric store....

It has to be ordered from a specialty retailer. I promise you that if you
go into your local chain junk fabric/ craft store and ask for gore tex they
will look at you like you are from freaking Mars.

http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips/sources.asp

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>

So, let me get this straight. You all want rainpants, with built in
gaiters that go over shoes to keep the rain out? Must be abrasion,
thorn resistant, breathable, anything else?

I wonder if they sell gortex fabric at a fabric store....

It has to be ordered from a specialty retailer. I promise you that if you
go into your local chain junk fabric/ craft store and ask for gore tex

they

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will look at you like you are from freaking Mars.

http://www.specialtyoutdoors.com/tips/sources.asp

Hmm... i think I ll try on Tuesday, just for the reaction.....

Micheal