Re: well....[censored].

It's also dependent on personal experience. I'm lucky in that I can deduct
sugar alcohols but a lot of people, like my BF, can't because they do
digest them.

on 16 Jun 2005 12:57:23 -0700, "Doug Freyburger" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I have strong opinion about net carbs:

Deducting fiber - real. Deducting anything else
based on label claims - nonsense.

It gives me a conservative count.

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Bev

"Stacey Bender" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

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Curious as to what will testing before bedtime tell you?

If you're very low you need a snack, if you're high you shouldn't have one.
If you're much higher fasting than you were the night before, you might have
to start snacking at bedtime to avoid a liver dump or need to test in the
middle of the night also to find out why and when your BG is rising. If
you are taking insulin or drugs that make insulin and have high FBG you may
need to adjust your dosage or timing.

--
No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

Quoting [email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

Suze said:

Some fiber is soluble, some is insoluble.

Given the natural human tendency to underestimate carbs and caories,
you're better off just to count count 'gross' carbs (and calories) and
leave it at that.

No, you're better off to count net carbs without underestimating
content/portion.

Quoted message said:

Not subtracting fiber amounts from total carbs gives you an unrealistic
view of what your intake is doing to your blood sugar, and will lead you
to under-eating fiber-rich vegetables vs fat/protein-rich meat/dairy.

'Net carbs' is pretty much a bunch of marketing [censored].

Certainly nothing wrong with eating a fiber rich diet; I just believe
in calling a spade a spade. It's also worth noting that some fiber
calories do count.

For the purpose of LC, we're counting net carbs as it relates to blood
sugar and insulin response. No fibre, soluble or insoluble, requires
insulin to process by the body.

on Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:43:27 -0500, Suze

suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

'Net carbs' is pretty much a bunch of marketing [censored].

Certainly nothing wrong with eating a fiber rich diet; I just believe
in calling a spade a spade. It's also worth noting that some fiber
calories do count.

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Bev

Quoting Bev-Ann:

Quoted message said:

on Sat, 25 Jun 2005 18:43:27 -0500, Suze

suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

'Net carbs' is pretty much a bunch of marketing [censored].

Certainly nothing wrong with eating a fiber rich diet; I just believe
in calling a spade a spade. It's also worth noting that some fiber
calories do count.

For the purpose of LC, we're

Would that be the royal "we"?

You seem to be rather fond of speaking for 'we' and 'us'; and it's not
the first time you've attempted that tactic with me.

Quoted message said:

counting net carbs as it relates to blood
sugar and insulin response. No fibre, soluble or insoluble, requires
insulin to process by the body.

[1] Learn to speak for yourself, not "we".
[2] Go back and read what OP actually asked.

Yes, that would be the royal "we". Which LC plan are you following that
doesn't use blood glucose and insulin response as it's main focus?
The OP's original question is in the subject. He merely repeated it again
in the body of the message. He did not specify whether it was in reference
to LC plans or counting calories, but since this is an LC newsgroup, I
chose to respond to it on the basis of LC and made that clear.
I don't understand why you're getting so uppity about my response. You
responded to the message in reference to calories. I responded in
reference to LC. Different points of view on the same subject.

on Sat, 25 Jun 2005 20:34:09 -0500, Suze

suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious said:

Would that be the royal "we"?

You seem to be rather fond of speaking for 'we' and 'us'; and it's not
the first time you've attempted that tactic with me.

[1] Learn to speak for yourself, not "we".
[2] Go back and read what OP actually asked.

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Bev

Quoting JC Der Koenig:

Quoted message said:

I must say, this is getting better and better.

lol, for pre-beddy bye entertainment, maybe.

You were right when you told me she just makes it up as she goes
along.

Sure seems extra nasty in here lately. Is everyone suffering from the heat?
or starving themselves to fit in a bikini? or maybe they're all teachers,
off for the summer, with no student to yell at.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| I must say, this is getting better and better.
|
| --
| Why can't we all just get along? -- Rodney King
|
|

It doesn't seem all that nasty to me, and I'm enjoying Suze's version of
rock and roll.

--
Most people are dumb as bricks; some people are dumber than that. -- MFW

"FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sure seems extra nasty in here lately. Is everyone suffering from the
heat?
or starving themselves to fit in a bikini? or maybe they're all teachers,
off for the summer, with no student to yell at.

In news:[email hidden],
JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> stated
| I must say, this is getting better and better.
|
| --
| Why can't we all just get along? -- Rodney King
|
|