Re: WHY???

In article <[email hidden]>,

Pete C. said:

No, but they primarily hate us out of jealousy for our greater freedoms
and higher standard of living. They just grab onto other issues as a
justification for their jealousy.

Freedom tends to come with a price, but I, for one, am willing to pay it.

Even if it means learning how to handle a gun. <G>

Besides, guns have entertainment value and it's a personal challenge to
develop my marksmanship.

Just bought 200 rounds of .308 so now I get to practice my 100+ yard
targets with the deer rifle.

I'll keep the shells for reloading.
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Pan Ohco said:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:48:38 -0500, Omelet <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Okay, but I don't work in law enforcement. ;-)
I just want to get certified to teach basic gun handling and safety for
women. Pistol, rifle and maybe shotgun.

I've done quite a bit of googling and I've found the local NRA
instructors for certification.

Look in the American Riflemen mag. They have a list of instructor
school. And I believe that they are still looking for a number of
female instructors.

Yes, they are.
The websites were not hard to find. :-)

I've still got a ways to go yet on my education but it might not hurt to
contact some instructors at this point for advice.

That is one of the really cool things that I've found out since getting
into this. Gun people have been some of the nicest, most helpful, kind
and decent human beings I've ever met!!!

They go out of their way to help me in any way they can.

Some of them are good cooks too.

I don't understand why anti-gunners hate them so and think they are
"rude". Just the opposite is true.

They seem to be more interested in law and order than any flaming
liberals.
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Dan Abel said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Omelet said:

That applies to guns, fire extinguishers and smoke detectors.

And life insurance. Nobody plans to, or wants to, use their life
insurance.

I consider my guns to BE life insurance! <G>

But I understand what you are saying.
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Pan Ohco said:

An armed society is a polite society

One of my favorite sayings...

It's kind of a joke about customer service and the gun manufacturers.
They have some of the finest customer service that can be found.

Some say that it's because they know that all of their customers are
armed. ;-D
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Pan Ohco said:

For one "redneck" is a slur.

Not in this part of Texas.

It's an honorific.

Hence my report on that "Redneck" party I attended where we ate BBQ and
shot skeet.

Depends on your sense of humor...

The people I know don't take it as a slur because they _have_ a sense of
humor!

They also all drive trucks and own shotguns, and the first day of deer
season is treated as a holiday. ;-D
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[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I hope that you all don't really think that wanting to be armed means
that I live in fear.

Of course it does, although you are apparently are not aware of it.
There is no imaginable reason for someone to be armed unless they think
that they might need to shoot someone, and there's no imaginable reason
to think that you might need to shoot someone unless you fear that
someone will try to harm or rob you. That's fear.

--
Peter Aitken

Omelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Pete C. said:

No, but they primarily hate us out of jealousy for our greater freedoms
and higher standard of living. They just grab onto other issues as a
justification for their jealousy.

Freedom tends to come with a price, but I, for one, am willing to pay it.

Even if it means learning how to handle a gun. <G>

Besides, guns have entertainment value and it's a personal challenge to
develop my marksmanship.

Just bought 200 rounds of .308 so now I get to practice my 100+ yard
targets with the deer rifle.

I'll keep the shells for reloading.
--
Peace, Om

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A day at the range is cheaper, safer and produces better results than a
day with a shrink and some prozak prescription.

Omelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
Cheryl Perkins <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Naturally, once a war starts, lots of people do end up as refugees, but
that doesn't mean that others in the same ethnic or political group
aren't armed fighters.

Quoted message said:

And what if the entire population were armed?
They would not have to run.

I think you're missing the point. Part of the population is armed and in
the forces of the national government. Part of it is armed and in an
assortment of rebel groups. Quite possibly some of those who are
unaffiliated with any group are also armed. I don't really see how you can
conclude that arming the remainder of the population who are heading for
refugee camps would mean that they didn't have to run, unless you are
claiming that they also have not merely weapons, but military skills and
the numbers to take on a significant number of the already-existing
armed groups. Such skills aren't typically found among non-combatants such
as children, the women caring for them and the sick and elderly. That's
why they run or hide. They know damn well that even if they have weapons
and ammunition, they can't stop an army or a bunch of insurgents or
bandits from over-running their village and doing what they please.

--
Cheryl

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

No, it's just the typical anti-gunners attempt to hide the fact that
they are the ones who are paranoid. They live in constant fear that
someone they walk by might be armed. Remarkable insecurity, quite sad.

Can anyone possible believe such hogwash?

--
Peter Aitken

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Not really... I personally knew someone that was murdered at an ATM
machine. Left behind a wife and 2 toddlers, and no life insurance.

Sam Evans, San Antonio. Don't recall the exact year but they never did
catch his killers.

He was a co-worker of mine and hit the ATM machine late at night after
he got off work.

And if that poor person had a gun, he would almost surely have still
been murdered and the murderers would have gotten not just the money but
another gun to use in criminal activities.

--
Peter Aitken

Omelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

Pan Ohco said:

On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 12:48:38 -0500, Omelet <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

Okay, but I don't work in law enforcement. ;-)
I just want to get certified to teach basic gun handling and safety for
women. Pistol, rifle and maybe shotgun.

I've done quite a bit of googling and I've found the local NRA
instructors for certification.

Look in the American Riflemen mag. They have a list of instructor
school. And I believe that they are still looking for a number of
female instructors.

Yes, they are.
The websites were not hard to find. :-)

I've still got a ways to go yet on my education but it might not hurt to
contact some instructors at this point for advice.

That is one of the really cool things that I've found out since getting
into this. Gun people have been some of the nicest, most helpful, kind
and decent human beings I've ever met!!!

They go out of their way to help me in any way they can.

Some of them are good cooks too.

I don't understand why anti-gunners hate them so and think they are
"rude". Just the opposite is true.

They seem to be more interested in law and order than any flaming
liberals.
--
Peace, Om

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It's the anti-gunners who are generally the rude ones. Sad too since the
anti-gunner would generally be sociable until they found out the person
they were talking to was armed. Rather like being nice to someone on the
phone until they find out the person on the other end is a different
race / religion / whatever, then their bigotry comes out.

"Pan Ohco" <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 07:51:56 -0400, "Nancy Young" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In your world, people are waiting to drive you off cliffs.

We live in different worlds. The fact that you can't understand
that should tell you something, but it doesn't. Can't help you with
that.

Quoted message said:

Nancy if you are living in society, you in some danger.
I think it is about one in ten, females are sexually molested in
their life time. That is not counting other assaults.

I understand that you think I've lived a sheltered life.
Really, you don't know. Trust me on this. I'm well aware
of the dangers in the world.

nancy

Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I hope that you all don't really think that wanting to be armed means
that I live in fear.

Of course it does, although you are apparently are not aware of it.
There is no imaginable reason for someone to be armed unless they think
that they might need to shoot someone, and there's no imaginable reason
to think that you might need to shoot someone unless you fear that
someone will try to harm or rob you. That's fear.

IMO, some people own guns to mentally enlarge their penises, or
compensate for not having one in the first place.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I hope that you all don't really think that wanting to be armed means
that I live in fear.

Of course it does, although you are apparently are not aware of it.
There is no imaginable reason for someone to be armed unless they think
that they might need to shoot someone, and there's no imaginable reason
to think that you might need to shoot someone unless you fear that
someone will try to harm or rob you. That's fear.

No, it's not.

It's no different than carrying a fire extinguisher in the truck, or
keeping one in the kitchen.

I suppose you don't have smoke detectors either because you are so
confident that you will never have a fire that you feel you don't need
them.

That's arrogance.

I'm not afraid, I'm cautious and prefer to be prepared for any
contingency. To me, that's SMART.
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In article <[email hidden]>, "Pete C." <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

A day at the range is cheaper, safer and produces better results than a
day with a shrink and some prozak prescription.

<lol> It _is_ good for stress relief!
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Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

No, it's just the typical anti-gunners attempt to hide the fact that
they are the ones who are paranoid. They live in constant fear that
someone they walk by might be armed. Remarkable insecurity, quite sad.

Can anyone possible believe such hogwash?

Why else would they care if I'm armed? What business is it of theirs
what's in my pockets? They are paranoid, plain and simple.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

No, it's just the typical anti-gunners attempt to hide the fact that
they are the ones who are paranoid. They live in constant fear that
someone they walk by might be armed. Remarkable insecurity, quite sad.

Can anyone possible believe such hogwash?

Peter,

Why are you so afraid of guns?
It's an inanimate object.

That's like being afraid to use a kitchen knife because you might get
cut!
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In article <[email hidden]>,

Cheryl Perkins said:

They know damn well that even if they have weapons
and ammunition, they can't stop an army or a bunch of insurgents or
bandits from over-running their village and doing what they please.

The number of refugees are in the thousands. Not all of them are
children or helpless elderly.

Thousands have also needlessly died.

They might still be alive if they could have defended themselves.
And those that are now starving and homeless might not need to be.

The refugees OUTNUMBER the bloody insurgents!

Would you run or would you fight if you were able to?

AND HAD THE TOOLS???
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Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

I hope that you all don't really think that wanting to be armed means
that I live in fear.

Of course it does, although you are apparently are not aware of it.
There is no imaginable reason for someone to be armed unless they think
that they might need to shoot someone, and there's no imaginable reason
to think that you might need to shoot someone unless you fear that
someone will try to harm or rob you. That's fear.

Why do you have a spare tire in your car? Do you live in constant fear
of a flat tire?

Why do you have a smoke detector in your house? Do you live in constant
fear of a fire?

Why do you have a lock on your door? Do you live in constant fear of a
burglary?

You have those things because they are reasonable and prudent
precautions or preparations for realistic risks, carrying a gun is no
different.

In article <[email hidden]>,

Peter A said:

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Not really... I personally knew someone that was murdered at an ATM
machine. Left behind a wife and 2 toddlers, and no life insurance.

Sam Evans, San Antonio. Don't recall the exact year but they never did
catch his killers.

He was a co-worker of mine and hit the ATM machine late at night after
he got off work.

And if that poor person had a gun, he would almost surely have still
been murdered and the murderers would have gotten not just the money but
another gun to use in criminal activities.

<sigh>

Whatever...
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Peace, Om

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