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  1. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
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    But getting to your point about a "cancerous biopsy"- even those are
    checked out by more than one person. There's a lab tech who initially
    reports on the findings (the section on the slide), and then an
    oncologist who verifies it. As I've been through this thing twice (wife &
    father), I've got a pretty good handle on the procedure.

    And you know for a fact that before WADA calls a test positive that they
    don't do the very same thing - i.e. get the supervisor and the most
    experienced tech to confirm? Of course they do.

    And you know this how?

    It's common knowledge, dude. Your failure to know this means you are
    out of the loop in dope testing. Why don't you ask Landis's attorney and
    see if he tells you the same thing.

    Thanks,

    Magilla

  2. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    And you know for a fact that before WADA calls a test positive that they
    don't do the very same thing - i.e. get the supervisor and the most
    experienced tech to confirm? Of course they do.

    And you know this how?

    It's common knowledge, dude. Your failure to know this means you are out
    of the loop in dope testing. Why don't you ask Landis's attorney and see
    if he tells you the same thing.

    You're offering a standard of proof far below what you'd expect from anyone
    else. As you'd say, "prove it."

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    "MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:

    >But getting to your point about a "cancerous biopsy"- even those are
    >checked out by more than one person. There's a lab tech who initially
    >reports on the findings (the section on the slide), and then an
    >oncologist who verifies it. As I've been through this thing twice (wife
    >& father), I've got a pretty good handle on the procedure.

    And you know for a fact that before WADA calls a test positive that they
    don't do the very same thing - i.e. get the supervisor and the most
    experienced tech to confirm? Of course they do.

    And you know this how?

    It's common knowledge, dude. Your failure to know this means you are out
    of the loop in dope testing. Why don't you ask Landis's attorney and see
    if he tells you the same thing.

    Thanks,

    Magilla

  3. Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >And you know for a fact that before WADA calls a test positive that they
    >don't do the very same thing - i.e. get the supervisor and the most
    >experienced tech to confirm? Of course they do.

    And you know this how?

    It's common knowledge, dude. Your failure to know this means you are out
    of the loop in dope testing. Why don't you ask Landis's attorney and see
    if he tells you the same thing.

    You're offering a standard of proof far below what you'd expect from anyone
    else. As you'd say, "prove it."

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    I don't have to prove it because all athletes are allowed to have their
    experts view the testing of the B-sample. And it's a fact that not a
    single expert has been able to come into a CAS hearing in the past 6
    years and win a case under the claim the test was mishandled or sabotaged.

    So you're asking for evidence that is neither here nor there in the
    whole scheme of things.

    Magilla

  4. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MagillaGorilla said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:
    Quoted message said:

    >>And you know for a fact that before WADA calls a test positive that they
    >>don't do the very same thing - i.e. get the supervisor and the most
    >>experienced tech to confirm? Of course they do.
    >
    >
    >And you know this how?
    >

    It's common knowledge, dude. Your failure to know this means you are out
    of the loop in dope testing. Why don't you ask Landis's attorney and see
    if he tells you the same thing.

    You're offering a standard of proof far below what you'd expect from anyone
    else. As you'd say, "prove it."

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    I don't have to prove it because all athletes are allowed to have their
    experts view the testing of the B-sample. And it's a fact that not a
    single expert has been able to come into a CAS hearing in the past 6
    years and win a case under the claim the test was mishandled or sabotaged.

    So you're asking for evidence that is neither here nor there in the
    whole scheme of things.

    So let me see. CAS rulings are 100% for evidence of
    drug use. It's good to have something to depend upon in
    this life.

    --
    Michael Press

  5. Michael Press said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    MagillaGorilla said:
    Mike Jacoubowsky said:

    >>>And you know for a fact that before WADA calls a test positive that they
    >>>don't do the very same thing - i.e. get the supervisor and the most
    >>>experienced tech to confirm? Of course they do.
    >>
    >>
    >>And you know this how?
    >>
    >
    >It's common knowledge, dude. Your failure to know this means you are out
    >of the loop in dope testing. Why don't you ask Landis's attorney and see
    >if he tells you the same thing.

    You're offering a standard of proof far below what you'd expect from anyone
    else. As you'd say, "prove it."

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    I don't have to prove it because all athletes are allowed to have their
    experts view the testing of the B-sample. And it's a fact that not a
    single expert has been able to come into a CAS hearing in the past 6
    years and win a case under the claim the test was mishandled or sabotaged.

    So you're asking for evidence that is neither here nor there in the
    whole scheme of things.

    So let me see. CAS rulings are 100% for evidence of
    drug use. It's good to have something to depend upon in
    this life.

    They're just as much "100% evidence" as a conviction in criminal court
    for murdering someone. Why - do you think a rider's vehement denial
    should be afforded greater weight?

    Thanks,

    Magilla

  6. "MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    So let me see. CAS rulings are 100% for evidence of drug use. It's good
    to have something to depend upon in this life.

    They're just as much "100% evidence" as a conviction in criminal court for
    murdering someone. Why - do you think a rider's vehement denial should
    be afforded greater weight?

    "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit."

  7. Carl Sundquist said:

    "MagillaGorilla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So let me see. CAS rulings are 100% for evidence of drug use. It's good
    to have something to depend upon in this life.

    They're just as much "100% evidence" as a conviction in criminal court for
    murdering someone. Why - do you think a rider's vehement denial should
    be afforded greater weight?

    "If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit."

    Or in Landis's case, "If the patch ain't on the sack, you must not sack."

    I like Carl, even though he lives in the Redneck Riviera.

    Magilla

  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    MagillaGorilla said:
    Michael Press said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    MagillaGorilla said:

    Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:

    >>>>And you know for a fact that before WADA calls a test positive that they
    >>>>don't do the very same thing - i.e. get the supervisor and the most
    >>>>experienced tech to confirm? Of course they do.
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>And you know this how?
    >>>
    >>
    >>It's common knowledge, dude. Your failure to know this means you are out
    >>of the loop in dope testing. Why don't you ask Landis's attorney and see
    >>if he tells you the same thing.
    >
    >
    >You're offering a standard of proof far below what you'd expect from anyone
    >else. As you'd say, "prove it."
    >
    >--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    >www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

    I don't have to prove it because all athletes are allowed to have their
    experts view the testing of the B-sample. And it's a fact that not a
    single expert has been able to come into a CAS hearing in the past 6
    years and win a case under the claim the test was mishandled or sabotaged.

    So you're asking for evidence that is neither here nor there in the
    whole scheme of things.

    So let me see. CAS rulings are 100% for evidence of
    drug use. It's good to have something to depend upon in
    this life.

    They're just as much "100% evidence" as a conviction in criminal court
    for murdering someone. Why - do you think a rider's vehement denial
    should be afforded greater weight?

    It is not that you are a gadfly; it is that you are a dishonest jerk.

    --
    Michael Press

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