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  1. I was browsing for spare parts earlier this year when I discovered (on
    their web site) Campagnolo now has 3 models of their 10 speed
    (compatible) chains. IIRC they have Record (fir sure) and I think
    Chorus and Veloce are what the 2 new models are called. Ever since
    Campagnolo went to 10 cogs, they have offered so many model changes in
    chains and especially the master link systems that most if not all of
    us can barely keep up.

    I now have 2 Record chains from 2003 model year with Wipperman or IRC
    master links (no tools to break and assemble).

    I was hoping that some of the experienced shop mechanics could offer
    some info or opinions on which chains that are currently available
    (assuming NOS availability back to 2003). I don't think I have ever
    been able to compare different Campagnolo 10 speed chains side by side
    and I have not ever had more than one type installed except to compare
    master links (both of those 2 I mentioned above are really excellent).
    I am not sure but it seems to me that the latest models are slightly
    narrower and claims are that they run with less noise (which seems to
    always be claimed) which would be nice but my first priority is
    shifting smoothly and quickly (as all Campagnolo drive-trains do when
    properly maintained and components selected correctly).

    Any comments good or bad about chains and master links for 10 speed
    would be appreciated. Also, when I was running 9 speed drive-trains, I
    had Campagnolo Ergo levers and derailleurs with Shimano chains and
    mostly Shimano SA cassettes (with a few Campagnolo). I found that the
    performance from Shimano chains to be close enough in performance where
    the availability and prices made it worth mixing that way. In fact, I
    only changed to all Campy drive-trains when I went to 10 speed. If I
    need to, I know that am all Campy Ergo drive-train shifts both Campy
    and 9 speed Shimano just as well. When I set up my first 10 speed
    drive-train, the cassette was the last part to arrive (they were
    back-ordered) so I went ahead and tried my existing batch of 9 speed
    cassettes and found they were shifting even better than when I had
    pure 9 speed systems. By the time Shimano was shipping 10 speed
    components, I already had enough 10 speed Campagnolo cassettes. I do
    wonder if the latest Shimano cassettes and chains would work as well
    as the mixed brand 9 speed systems. I don't think at this point I would
    ever buy a Shimano cassette again, but lots of smaller specialty
    manufacturers have either fewer choices in Campagnolo compatible models
    or none. I am looking in to some custom cassettes and it would be nice
    to know if Shimano spec'ed cassettes will be worth considering.

    TIA, online or offline response OK

  2. Yow, you need to take a step back! Remember, chains are CONSUMABLES.
    That means they get used and need replacing frequently. You shouldn't
    stress too much about it.

    Find a good, CHEAP chain that's compatible with the number of gears you
    use (8, 9 or 10) and replace often.

    The one thing I like to do is use removable links like SRAM powerlink,
    Wipperman Connix link, etc., instead of the stupid pins used by Campy
    and Shimano. Since I still use 9 speed, I mix and match SRAM and
    Shimano chains with SRAM powerlinks (Campy C9 chains are wider and
    noisier, so I don't like them). I haven't used Wipperman links yet, but
    hear good things about them.

  3. Chris M said:

    I was browsing for spare parts earlier this year when I discovered (on
    their web site) Campagnolo now has 3 models of their 10 speed
    (compatible) chains. IIRC they have Record (fir sure) and I think
    Chorus and Veloce are what the 2 new models are called. Ever since
    Campagnolo went to 10 cogs, they have offered so many model changes in
    chains and especially the master link systems that most if not all of
    us can barely keep up.

    3 chains now-Record-hollow pins and holes in plates, Chorus, holes in
    plates, Veloce-no holes in plates...all use the same push thru pin,
    albeit a narrower one, as they have for the last 5 years. Chins from
    Campag are now 5.9mm, very quiet and strong. All can use the 6.05
    Wipperman snap link.

    Quoted message said:


    I now have 2 Record chains from 2003 model year with Wipperman or IRC
    master links (no tools to break and assemble).

    I was hoping that some of the experienced shop mechanics could offer
    some info or opinions on which chains that are currently available
    (assuming NOS availability back to 2003). I don't think I have ever
    been able to compare different Campagnolo 10 speed chains side by side
    and I have not ever had more than one type installed except to compare
    master links (both of those 2 I mentioned above are really excellent).
    I am not sure but it seems to me that the latest models are slightly
    narrower and claims are that they run with less noise (which seems to
    always be claimed) which would be nice but my first priority is
    shifting smoothly and quickly (as all Campagnolo drive-trains do when
    properly maintained and components selected correctly).

    Any comments good or bad about chains and master links for 10 speed
    would be appreciated. Also, when I was running 9 speed drive-trains, I
    had Campagnolo Ergo levers and derailleurs with Shimano chains and
    mostly Shimano SA cassettes (with a few Campagnolo). I found that the
    performance from Shimano chains to be close enough in performance where
    the availability and prices made it worth mixing that way. In fact, I
    only changed to all Campy drive-trains when I went to 10 speed. If I
    need to, I know that am all Campy Ergo drive-train shifts both Campy
    and 9 speed Shimano just as well. When I set up my first 10 speed
    drive-train, the cassette was the last part to arrive (they were
    back-ordered) so I went ahead and tried my existing batch of 9 speed
    cassettes and found they were shifting even better than when I had
    pure 9 speed systems. By the time Shimano was shipping 10 speed
    components, I already had enough 10 speed Campagnolo cassettes. I do
    wonder if the latest Shimano cassettes and chains would work as well
    as the mixed brand 9 speed systems. I don't think at this point I would
    ever buy a Shimano cassette again, but lots of smaller specialty
    manufacturers have either fewer choices in Campagnolo compatible models
    or none. I am looking in to some custom cassettes and it would be nice
    to know if Shimano spec'ed cassettes will be worth considering.

    TIA, online or offline response OK

  4. Have you tried the new 5.9 after using the wider chains, or are you
    getting that info from Campagnolo?

  5. Chris M said:

    Have you tried the new 5.9 after using the wider chains, or are you
    getting that info from Campagnolo?

    I have installed many of the new 5.9 chains and I think they are
    quieter and a better chain. I read a lot of 'official' Campag stuff and
    unlike some MO outfits or Campag itself, I try it before I talk about
    it.

    Our standard Campag 10s chain is now the new Veloce 5.9mm chain...We
    have the bigger buck ones if somebody wants them but Veloce is what we
    recommend. We are using the Wipperman 6.2 chains(mavic) we have with
    great success on 9s systems(like the Sram 6.2mm chain, that they call
    '9s'😉 and also Sram PC-950 for a less expensive chain. With shimano,
    normally a 105 10s chain or Sram PC-950 for 9s...PC-58 for 8s/7s/6s...

    Way to many chains tho.....

  6. Earlier said:

    All can use the 6.05 Wipperman snap link.

    Just wanted to confirm: that's the current wipperman 10s removeable
    link?

    Thanks,

    D'ohBoy

  7. D'ohBoy said:
    Earlier said:

    All can use the 6.05 Wipperman snap link.

    Just wanted to confirm: that's the current wipperman 10s removeable
    link?

    Thanks,

    D'ohBoy

    Yessir-we use the wipperman 6.05 link with Campag and shimano...the 6.2
    link with older Campag.

  8. Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    Yessir-we use the wipperman 6.05 link with Campag and shimano...the 6.2
    link with older Campag.

    Several people, including myself, have been using the Wip. 6.2 link
    with Shimano 10 chain for about 2 seasons and there are no problems to
    report. The 6.2 Connex link also works fine with Campy narrow.

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