Recumbent Urination

Bob Slebodnik <[email hidden]> wrote:
: Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
: noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
: when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
: that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
: about 25 minutes.

I have had some similar experiences, at least initially. Is your seat too far forward? I thought it
might have something to do with pressure against your bladder (eg. from thighs moving closer) but
just as likely could be that your bladder has been conditioned to upright riding... though 6000
miles might be enough for reconditioning?

The 100% faired M5 low racer has an onboard rest room too...

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Bob Slebodnik said:

... As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now on my Rans Velocity
Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon or not and if anyone
knows what causes it....

Lack of proper capitalization?

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

I've noticed it also. When I first went over to the Vrex from a BikeE, it was URGENT urination. I
applied the rule that "anywhere can be a bathroom", many times. The problem has pretty much gone
away after the first year with the 'Rex. I now ride a Giro. I do believe there is a more frequent
urination thing happening. It is not of the URGENT nature I experienced that first season on the
Vrex, more than 10,000 miles ago. I think it may be due to the SWB, perhaps having the legs higher
is a contributor. Then again maybe its just old age manifesting itself in some new and exciting
way.. Denny in Sayre, Pa "Bent but not Broken"

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Quoted message said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes. Again, it is productive of a normal amount of urine when I stop so and I don't
notice this phenomenon in other aerobic activity or when not riding a recumbent. I do not drink
alot of fluids when I ride (though I know that I should). I am not diabetic and do not seem to
have prostate problems. As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now
on my Rans Velocity Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon
or not and if anyone knows what causes it. Thank-you in advance for your assistance.

Sincerely,

Bob

I had noticed this while riding my VRex but just thought it was me since my plumbing is a little
screwed up. Then a fellow bent rider mentioned to me that no matter how many times he urinates, he
has to go again within 10-20 minutes of riding his Lightning, something he never had trouble with on
his upright. Must be common.

-Dennis Tresenriter Central Illinois

(Bob Slebodnik) said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes.

Tom Sherman scribed with passion and wit:

Quoted message said:

Bob Slebodnik said:

... As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now on my Rans Velocity
Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon or not and if anyone
knows what causes it....

Lack of proper capitalization?

Tom Sherman - Planet Earth

Are you guys taking the p*ss?

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you might be on to something Denny, I do think it has something to do with the legs churning higher
up, for me though, it brings on the old
#2! I'm real careful not to eat right before riding now.

Denny Voorhees said:

I've noticed it also. When I first went over to the Vrex from a BikeE, it was URGENT urination. I
applied the rule that "anywhere can be a bathroom", many times. The problem has pretty much gone
away after the first year with the 'Rex. I now ride a Giro. I do believe there is a more frequent
urination thing happening. It is not of the URGENT nature I experienced that first season on the
Vrex, more than 10,000 miles ago. I think it may be due to the SWB, perhaps having the legs higher
is a contributor. Then again maybe its just old age manifesting itself in some new and exciting
way.. Denny in Sayre, Pa "Bent but not Broken"

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Quoted message said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes. Again, it is productive of a normal amount of urine when I stop so and I don't
notice this phenomenon in other aerobic activity or when not riding a recumbent. I do not drink
alot of fluids when I ride (though I know that I should). I am not diabetic and do not seem to
have prostate problems. As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now
on my Rans Velocity Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon
or not and if anyone knows what causes it. Thank-you in advance for your assistance.

Sincerely,

Bob

Bob Slebodnik said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes. Again, it is productive of a normal amount of urine when I stop so and I don't
notice this phenomenon in other aerobic activity or when not riding a recumbent. I do not drink
alot of fluids when I ride (though I know that I should). I am not diabetic and do not seem to
have prostate problems. As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now
on my Rans Velocity Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon
or not and if anyone knows what causes it. Thank-you in advance for your assistance.

Sincerely,

Bob

From the first time I rode a recumbent I appreciated the fact that I could ride much more
comfortably and farther than on a df once the 'need' manifested itself. So many benefits accrued to
the change over. More importantly to me and those dfs near me, my runny nose problem went away too.

(Bob Slebodnik) said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes.

Grin, there's a good number of trees and fence posts east of Toronto that have been
"watered" this autumn.

Picked up my first bent in early September and actually visited the doctor in the latter
part of October with concerns about this very problem. While he couldn't/wouldn't
specify the whys and wherefores, he assured me I was healthy in the plumbing department,
at least operationly, and to keep up with the watering campaign, it was doing the rest
of my body good.

Interesting to see so many posts confirming the same result in many others as well . . . is
it an affliction that we'll work our way through, as suggested in other responses? Grin, I
certainly hope so, with the cold weather setting in, I can't afford any amount of cold air
contraction in that region.

"Frank P. Patterson" skrev

Quoted message said:

From the first time I rode a recumbent I appreciated the fact that I could ride much more
comfortably and farther than on a df once the 'need' manifested itself. So many benefits accrued
to the change over. More importantly to me and those dfs near me, my runny nose problem went
away too.

Maybe thats it. We don't loose fluids nasally and by spitting all the time so it has to go somewhere
else. ;-) Now I've tried this too. I think the position makes it harder to ignore the urges so to
speak. It can be done but not to the same extent as on a DF.

Mikael

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Quoted message said:

(Bob Slebodnik) said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after
only about 25 minutes.

Grin, there's a good number of trees and fence posts east of Toronto that have been "watered"
this autumn.

Picked up my first bent in early September and actually visited the doctor in the latter part of
October with concerns about this very problem. While he couldn't/wouldn't specify the whys and
wherefores, he assured me I was healthy in the plumbing department, at least operationly, and to
keep up with the watering campaign, it was doing the rest of my body good.

Interesting to see so many posts confirming the same result in many others as well . . . is it an
affliction that we'll work our way through, as suggested in other responses? Grin, I certainly
hope so, with the cold weather setting in, I can't afford any amount of cold air contraction in
that region.

We've heard of recumbutt, I guess this is a case of recumbladder. After all, on a bent you don't
have your body weight smashing your urethra against a tiny saddle.

"Bob Slebodnik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes. Again, it is productive of a normal amount of urine when I stop so and I don't
notice this phenomenon in other aerobic activity or when not riding a recumbent. I do not drink
alot of fluids when I ride (though I know that I should). I am not diabetic and do not seem to
have prostate problems. As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now
on my Rans Velocity Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon
or not and if anyone knows what causes it. Thank-you in advance for your assistance.

Just to be the exception - I never have had problems with this.
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Bob.

My thought is that on an upright bike, you basically have pressure sitting on your valve and that
may help stifle the need to go. Some of the suggestions others have mentioned may help but for some,
there may be other factors that are also working on them -

Recumbent riders tend to be older riders (not all) and older riders also have more issues with
urination as they get older. So...there's that one. Then another possible issue for a very few is
again one that effects somewhat older riders. Some of us tend to develop high blood pressure and if
that's the case, then sometimes the medications that are used may make a person need to urinate more
often. For example, a diuretic (water pill) results in more water passing out of the body and so
that can effect urination habits a "wee" bit. LOL

If that applies (using a duretic) and it's a long shot since for many this won't apply, there are
many optional ways of dealing with this.

Larry Raphael Barcroft Dakota #002, Metallic Blue Oakton, VA

Bob Slebodnik said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent

I noticed that on my very first recumbent ride. I even mentioned it on my loooong report to the MARS
mailing list (see list.marsride.orgwa.exeOpen ↗)

And yes, it still happens. I have to control my fluid intake a lot more carefully when
riding a bent.

Torben Scheel scribed with passion and wit:

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"Bob Slebodnik" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after
only about 25 minutes. Again, it is productive of a normal amount of urine when I stop so and I
don't notice this phenomenon in other aerobic activity or when not riding a recumbent. I do not
drink alot of fluids when I ride (though I know that I should). I am not diabetic and do not seem
to have prostate problems. As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and
now on my Rans Velocity Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread
phenomenon or not and if anyone knows what causes it. Thank-you in advance for your assistance.

Just to be the exception - I never have had problems with this.

Me neither, must be a Septic problem.
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Ian

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"GreyFx2" skrev

Quoted message said:

For me, caffeine also is a MAJOR factor in the distance ridden v pitstops equation, so when
touring I NEVER have caffeine for breakfast, and am able to make it comfortably between SAGs.

Well, I'm neither old or ailing but the 2 huge mugs of tea it takes to wake me up in the morning
might have something to do with it. ;-)

M.

One of the reasons I tried out a recumbent was because of frequent urination on a df. I found out
that the problem was worse, but everything else was so much better that I've never gone back. John

Exercise causes the blood to pass thru all the filters in the body at a higher rate. This is a
benefit of exercise. Same thing happens to me when I raise the heart rate for an extended period
of time for any type of exercise. Running, jumping rope, swimming, etc. . Not unique to
recumbents. Speedy

Bob Slebodnik said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes. Again, it is productive of a normal amount of urine when I stop so and I don't
notice this phenomenon in other aerobic activity or when not riding a recumbent. I do not drink
alot of fluids when I ride (though I know that I should). I am not diabetic and do not seem to
have prostate problems. As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now
on my Rans Velocity Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon
or not and if anyone knows what causes it. Thank-you in advance for your assistance.

Sincerely,

Bob

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Quoted message said:

Recently, a gentleman send a letter to Recumbent Cyclist News about a phenomenon that he has
noticed: the increased need for (productive) urination while riding a recumbent that disappears
when not riding a recumbent. I, too, have noticed this in my 6,000+ miles on recumbents. I find
that I have to stop every 45 minutes or so and that sensation of needing to stop starts after only
about 25 minutes. Again, it is productive of a normal amount of urine when I stop so and I don't
notice this phenomenon in other aerobic activity or when not riding a recumbent. I do not drink
alot of fluids when I ride (though I know that I should). I am not diabetic and do not seem to
have prostate problems. As far as ergonomics go, I have noticed this on my Rans Tailwind and now
on my Rans Velocity Squared. I would be interested in knowing if this is a widespread phenomenon
or not and if anyone knows what causes it. Thank-you in advance for your assistance.

Sincerely,

Bob

Do you suppose there might be a way to use a hydration pack hooked up in sort of a reverse fashion
to increase the range between stops?

Frequent stopper, jd

S. Delaire 'Rotatorrecumbent said:

Exercise causes the blood to pass thru all the filters in the body at a higher rate. This is a
benefit of exercise. Same thing happens to me when I raise the heart rate for an extended period
of time for any type of exercise. Running, jumping rope, swimming, etc. . Not unique to
recumbents.

With me it is quite escalated when on a recumbent. I've been riding for well over 30 years, used to
race BMX in the 70/80's, and MTB in the 90's, and have done a lot of endurance sports. Never had
that problem quite to the same extend as when riding a bent.