REI's Offensive Mountain Biking Advertisement

I flattened a frog just like the one on your website when I went riding the other week... I won't be
riding their much longer though, the land will soon be used for homes for humans to live in so that
they can sit comfortably creating [censored] websites...

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The mountain bike advertisement on your web site is very offensive. Do you support "attacking"
nature? Is nature "nasty"? Do you advocate "trail domination"? "Tear[ing] up the trail"? Do you
think such a destructive activity belongs on "single track", or that it will REMAIN "single track"
if used for mountain biking? I'm glad that you admit supporting such a destructive sport, but, by
your advertising, you are teaching people bad attitudes toward nature. Please change your
advertising, or, better yet, GET OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN BIKE BUSINESS!

Mike Vandeman

K2 Attack 1.0 - 2003 Item 692877 Suited for any style of riding, the full-suspension Attack 1.0 will
keep you fresh and in control.

Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 Item 693570 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother
Nature can serve up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail domination!

Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 Item 704250 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother
Nature can serve up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail domination!

K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 Item 704052 Tear up the trail without breaking the bank! The 1.0 boasts a 24-speed
drivetrain, front suspension and tons of durability for serious MTB adventure.

K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 Item 704171 Aching for single track? Meet our friend, Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable
suspension and high-quality components hold their own on any trail.

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" . . . Every time I hear something like this I got out and kill 12 of something"

Ted Nugent

Mike, I'm forwarding this to Ted . . .

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Awesome Mike. I didn't even know REI was in the MB business. I am going to buy another MB (downhill
model) to rip up on some trails. In a weird sort of way, you can be pretty darn useful.

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Mike Vandeman

K2 Attack 1.0 - 2003 Item 692877 Suited for any style of riding, the full-suspension Attack
1.0 will

keep you

Quoted message said:

fresh and in control.

Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 Item 693570 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails
Mother Nature

can serve

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up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail

domination!

Quoted message said:

Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 Item 704250 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails
Mother Nature

can serve

Quoted message said:

up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail

domination!

Quoted message said:

K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 Item 704052 Tear up the trail without breaking the bank! The 1.0 boasts a
24-speed drivetrain, front suspension and tons of durability for serious MTB

adventure.

Quoted message said:

K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 Item 704171 Aching for single track? Meet our friend, Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable

suspension and

Quoted message said:

high-quality components hold their own on any trail.

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:50:06 +1100, "CTB" <[email hidden]> wrote:

.I flattened a frog just like the one on your website when I went riding the .other week... .I won't
be riding their much longer though, the land will soon be used for .homes for humans to live in so
that they can sit comfortably creating .[censored] websites...

NO WONDER you are afraid to use your real name.... Idiot.
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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:38:42 -0700, "TenKMan" <[email hidden]> wrote:

. ."Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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.ngId=-1&storeId=8000&categoryId=4500838 .> . .Awesome Mike. I didn't even know REI was in the MB
business. I am .going to buy another MB (downhill model) to rip up on some trails.

Liar.

In a .weird sort of way, you can be pretty darn useful. . .> .> Mike Vandeman .> .> .> K2 Attack
1.0 - 2003 .> Item 692877 .> Suited for any style of riding, the full-suspension Attack 1.0 will
.keep you .> fresh and in control. .> .> Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 .> Item 693570 .> Designed by
folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother Nature .can serve .> up, this full-suspension
ride is your ticket to total trail .domination! .> .> Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 .> Item 704250 .>
Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother Nature .can serve .> up, this
full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail .domination! .> .> K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 .> Item
704052 .> Tear up the trail without breaking the bank! The 1.0 boasts a 24-speed .> drivetrain,
front suspension and tons of durability for serious MTB .adventure. .> .> K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 .>
Item 704171 .> Aching for single track? Meet our friend, Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable .suspension and
.> high-quality components hold their own on any trail. .> .

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On 21 Nov 2003 08:32:57 +1050, thepipedog <[email hidden]> wrote:

.Mike Vandeman wrote:
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. > The mountain bike advertisement on your web site is very offensive. Do
. > you support "attacking" nature? Is nature "nasty"? Do you advocate
. > "trail domination"? "Tear[ing] up the trail"? Do you think such a
. > destructive activity belongs on "single track", or that it will REMAIN
. > "single track" if used for mountain biking? I'm glad that you admit
. > supporting such a destructive sport, but, by your advertising, you are
. > teaching people bad attitudes toward nature. Please change your
. > advertising, or, better yet, GET OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN BIKE BUSINESS!
. > Mike Vandeman
. > K2 Attack 1.0 - 2003 Item 692877 Suited for any style of riding, the
. > full-suspension Attack 1.0 will keep you fresh and in control.
. > Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 Item 693570 Designed by folks who ride some of
. > the nastiest trails Mother Nature can serve up, this full-suspension
. > ride is your ticket to total trail domination!
. > Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 Item 704250 Designed by folks who ride some of
. > the nastiest trails Mother Nature can serve up, this full-suspension
. > ride is your ticket to total trail domination!
. > K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 Item 704052 Tear up the trail without breaking the
. > bank! The 1.0 boasts a 24-speed drivetrain, front suspension and tons of
. > durability for serious MTB adventure.
. > K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 Item 704171 Aching for single track? Meet our friend,
. > Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable suspension and high-quality components hold
. > their own on any trail.
. > ===
. > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans
. > ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting
. > auto dependence and road construction.)
. > http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande" rel="ugc nofollow noopener">home.pacbell.netmjvandeOpen ↗ " . . .
. > Every time I hear something like this I got out and kill 12 of
. > something" .
. Ted Nugent . .Mike, I'm forwarding this to Ted . . .

Who?
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Same idea, but this time rabies free!

Andy Chequer

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Liar

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 14:38:42 -0700, "TenKMan" <[email hidden]> wrote: .> . .Awesome Mike. I didn't
even know REI was in the MB business. I am .going to buy another MB (downhill model) to rip up on
some trails.

Liar.

I'm rubber, you're glue bounces off me sticks on you.

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In a .weird sort of way, you can be pretty darn useful. .

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On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:50:06 +1100, "CTB" <[email hidden]> wrote:

.I flattened a frog just like the one on your website when I went riding

the

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.other week... .I won't be riding their much longer though, the land will soon be used

for

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.homes for humans to live in so that they can sit comfortably creating .[censored] websites...

NO WONDER you are afraid to use your real name.... Idiot.
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It's probably a good thing he didn't use a real name. Those frog families have long memories, and
can wait whole generations to exact revenge. Your average lily pond is an amphibian version of
Sicily. Cut him some slack Mikey, he's probably living in fear of froggie retribution. And with you
on the animal mafia payroll, there's no telling what nefarious end awaits him.

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The mountain bike advertisement on your web site is very offensive. Do you support "attacking"
nature? Is nature "nasty"? Do you advocate "trail domination"? "Tear[ing] up the trail"? Do you
think such a destructive activity belongs on "single track", or that it will REMAIN "single track"
if used for mountain biking? I'm glad that you admit supporting such a destructive sport, but, by
your advertising, you are teaching people bad attitudes toward nature. Please change your
advertising, or, better yet, GET OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN BIKE BUSINESS!

Mike Vandeman

K2 Attack 1.0 - 2003 Item 692877 Suited for any style of riding, the full-suspension Attack 1.0
will keep you fresh and in control.

Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 Item 693570 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother
Nature can serve up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail domination!

Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 Item 704250 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother
Nature can serve up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail domination!

K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 Item 704052 Tear up the trail without breaking the bank! The 1.0 boasts a
24-speed drivetrain, front suspension and tons of durability for serious MTB adventure.

K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 Item 704171 Aching for single track? Meet our friend, Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable
suspension and high-quality components hold their own on any trail.

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You have proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that you are a fool who truly needs a life. Go get a
hooker for the night and live a little.

That was a good link, wasn't it?

Thanks from me also Mike!

Mike
86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00 88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's

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Awesome Mike. I didn't even know REI was in the MB business. I am going to buy another MB
(downhill model) to rip up on some trails. In a weird sort of way, you can be pretty darn useful.

Quoted message said:

Mike Vandeman

K2 Attack 1.0 - 2003 Item 692877 Suited for any style of riding, the full-suspension Attack
1.0 will

keep you

Quoted message said:

fresh and in control.

Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 Item 693570 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails
Mother Nature

can serve

Quoted message said:

up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail

domination!

Quoted message said:

Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 Item 704250 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails
Mother Nature

can serve

Quoted message said:

up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail

domination!

Quoted message said:

K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 Item 704052 Tear up the trail without breaking the bank! The 1.0 boasts a
24-speed drivetrain, front suspension and tons of durability for serious MTB

adventure.

Quoted message said:

K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 Item 704171 Aching for single track? Meet our friend, Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable

suspension and

Quoted message said:

high-quality components hold their own on any trail.

MTBScottie says:

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Go get a hooker for the night and live a little.

If that's your idea (what am i thinking? It fits...) of living a little, you really need to get out
more and give your right hand a rest (or are you a leftie?)

Steve

www.rentbike.it

RENT A BIKE IN SICILY!!!!!!

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The mountain bike advertisement on your web site is very offensive.

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As an REI member, I made sure I left a good word for then at the feedback URL you gave. It was a
good ad, and made me want to ride on the trail some more.

What makes you think they aren't just laughing at your meek attempt at admonishment?

FYI, REI sells a lot of backcountry gear - you know, so that hikers can destroy more ground further
into the wilderness? By leaving human waste, etc...

Interesting that you don't mention that.
--
Jonesy

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The mountain bike advertisement on your web site is very offensive. Do you support "attacking"
nature? Is nature "nasty"? Do you advocate "trail domination"? "Tear[ing] up the trail"? Do you
think such a destructive

activity

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belongs on "single track", or that it will REMAIN "single track" if used

for

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mountain biking? I'm glad that you admit supporting such a destructive

sport,

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but, by your advertising, you are teaching people bad attitudes toward

nature.

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Please change your advertising, or, better yet, GET OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN

BIKE

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BUSINESS!

Only you could read that into an advertisement. You are really so stupid that you think that REI has
anything to do with the naming of the products that they sell?

In rec.bicycles.soc TenKMan <[email hidden]> wrote:

: Awesome Mike. I didn't even know REI was in the MB business. I am going to buy another MB
: (downhill model) to rip up on some trails. In a weird sort of way, you can be pretty darn useful.

You like an aggressive riding style?

--
Risto Varanka | helsinki.fihpv.htmlOpen ↗ varis at no spam please iki fi

Are you really that obtuse that you get offended at the use of these words. Maybe tight, sweet,
dude offend you too. Clearly, they are advertising for a certain market...those who want to be the
expert on the trail (to dominate, control, excel) and not the antithesis: to be controlled or
inferior to the trail, which apparently is your preference. So have fun on your pretty, quant,
chic, lollypop trail. -P

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The mountain bike advertisement on your web site is very offensive. Do you support "attacking"
nature? Is nature "nasty"? Do you advocate "trail domination"? "Tear[ing] up the trail"? Do you
think such a destructive

activity

Quoted message said:

belongs on "single track", or that it will REMAIN "single track" if used

for

Quoted message said:

mountain biking? I'm glad that you admit supporting such a destructive

sport,

Quoted message said:

but, by your advertising, you are teaching people bad attitudes toward

nature.

Quoted message said:

Please change your advertising, or, better yet, GET OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN

BIKE

Quoted message said:

BUSINESS!

Mike Vandeman

K2 Attack 1.0 - 2003 Item 692877 Suited for any style of riding, the full-suspension Attack 1.0
will keep

you

Quoted message said:

fresh and in control.

Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 Item 693570 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother
Nature can

serve

Quoted message said:

up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail domination!

Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 Item 704250 Designed by folks who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother
Nature can

serve

Quoted message said:

up, this full-suspension ride is your ticket to total trail domination!

K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 Item 704052 Tear up the trail without breaking the bank! The 1.0 boasts a
24-speed drivetrain, front suspension and tons of durability for serious MTB

adventure.

Quoted message said:

K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 Item 704171 Aching for single track? Meet our friend, Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable

suspension and

Quoted message said:

high-quality components hold their own on any trail.

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help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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On 20 Nov 2003 17:10:34 -0800, [email hidden] wrote:

.Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>... .> Posted at:
rei.comservicefb.htmlOpen ↗ .> .> rei.comCategoryDOpen ↗
isplay?catalogId=40000008000&langId=-1&storeId=8000&categoryId=4500838 .> .> The mountain bike
advertisement on your web site is very offensive. Do you .> support "attacking" nature? Is nature
"nasty"? Do you advocate "trail .> domination"? "Tear[ing] up the trail"? Do you think such a
destructive activity .> belongs on "single track", or that it will REMAIN "single track" if used for
.> mountain biking? I'm glad that you admit supporting such a destructive sport, .> but, by your
advertising, you are teaching people bad attitudes toward nature. .> Please change your advertising,
or, better yet, GET OUT OF THE MOUNTAIN BIKE .> BUSINESS! .> .> Mike Vandeman .> .> .> K2 Attack 1.0
- 2003 .> Item 692877 .> Suited for any style of riding, the full-suspension Attack 1.0 will keep
you .> fresh and in control. .> .> Novara Ponderosa FS 2003 .> Item 693570 .> Designed by folks who
ride some of the nastiest trails Mother Nature can serve .> up, this full-suspension ride is your
ticket to total trail domination! .> .> Novara Ponderosa FS 2004 .> Item 704250 .> Designed by folks
who ride some of the nastiest trails Mother Nature can serve .> up, this full-suspension ride is
your ticket to total trail domination! .> .> K2 Zed 1.0 - 2004 .> Item 704052 .> Tear up the trail
without breaking the bank! The 1.0 boasts a 24-speed .> drivetrain, front suspension and tons of
durability for serious MTB adventure. .> .> K2 Zed 3.0 - 2004 .> Item 704171 .> Aching for single
track? Meet our friend, Zed 3.0. Fully tuneable suspension and .> high-quality components hold their
own on any trail. .> .> === .> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to .>
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 .> years fighting auto dependence and
road construction.) .> .> home.pacbell.netmjvandeOpen ↗ . .You have proven, beyond a reasonable
doubt, that you are a fool who .truly needs a life. Go get a hooker for the night and live a little.

I don't need to. Your wives and girl friends just LOVE making it with us more intelligent hikers,
while you guys are out banging your brains out on rocks and trees, thinking you are so very macho.
Thanks a lot.
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