removing cranks first time

Callistus Valerius said:

I have a Trek 2001 Trek 5200 with Ultegra Octolink, and I need to
remove the cranks, for the first time. I was looking at the tools
needed, and this is what I saw.
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The CCP-4 is specifically designed to remove crank arms from Shimano®
Octalink (splined, oversized "pipe billet"😉 spindles, and ISIS Drive ®
splined systems. It uses a long, comfortable handle and a fine thread
for the leverage needed to remove tight crankarms. Rotating tip
ensures smooth operation and long life.

NOTE: CCP-4 will not work on crank arms that fit square, tapered
bottom bracket spindles. Also note that crankarms with a "one-key
release" system ("self extracting"😉 do not require any crank puller
tool. The one-key system acts as the remover. If the one-key system
is removed, the CCP-4 can be used to pull the arm.
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Will the CCP-4 work with my bike? And what does "one-key
release" mean?

Yes it will work. The CCP-4 has a larger "button" to push against the pipe
billet spindle.

One key release means there is a special cap threaded into the crank arm
around the crankbolt. It's usually identifiable by two small holes for a
pin spanner (for its removal and installation) , the newer ones I've seen
(RaceFace X-type) have a dual 10mm (for the cap) and 8mm for the crank bolt.
Anyway, you unscrew the crankbolt out against this cap and it pushes the
crankarm off the spindle. There is a thin washer inside that allows the
bolt to slide against the cap. One key systems are nice for when you are
out on the trail (or road in your case) and get a serious case of chainsuck
where you have to pull the crankarm off to fix.

Mike

Callistus Valerius said:

I have a Trek 2001 Trek 5200 with Ultegra Octolink, and I need to remove
the cranks, for the first time. I was looking at the tools needed, and this
is what I saw.
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The CCP-4 is specifically designed to remove crank arms from Shimano®
Octalink (splined, oversized "pipe billet"😉 spindles, and ISIS Drive ®
splined systems. It uses a long, comfortable handle and a fine thread for
the leverage needed to remove tight crankarms. Rotating tip ensures smooth
operation and long life.

Go to a hardware store and get a long 8mm allen wrench. All you need,
as these cranks use a self extrator. Keep the little cap on,
left-loosey.

get a torque wrench to put em back on.

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Callistus Valerius said:

I have a Trek 2001 Trek 5200 with Ultegra Octolink, and I need

to remove

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the cranks, for the first time. I was looking at the tools

needed, and this

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is what I saw.
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The CCP-4 is specifically designed to remove crank arms from

Shimano®

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Octalink (splined, oversized "pipe billet"😉 spindles, and ISIS

Drive ®

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splined systems. It uses a long, comfortable handle and a fine

thread for

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the leverage needed to remove tight crankarms. Rotating tip

ensures smooth

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operation and long life.

Go to a hardware store and get a long 8mm allen wrench. All you
need,
as these cranks use a self extrator. Keep the little cap on,
left-loosey.

Or get an 8mm allen socket so you can use a longer socket wrench.
I don't know about you, but I alway think I am going to break
that flimsy cap using the self extractor. I always take the cap
off, remove the bolt and use a crank extractor. -- Jay Beattie.

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get a torque wrench to put em back on.

I always do. $23US for Craftsman.

Mike

Callistus Valerius said:

I have a Trek 2001 Trek 5200 with Ultegra Octolink, and I need to remove
the cranks, for the first time.

For Shimano cranks, I recommend drilling out the bolts and prying the
arms off with a crowbar. Be sure to recycle them, as they can be
reprocessed into such useful items as single-serving beverage
containers and pie tins. ;^)

Chalo Colina

Chalo said:

Callistus Valerius said:

I have a Trek 2001 Trek 5200 with Ultegra Octolink, and I need to
remove the cranks, for the first time.

For Shimano cranks, I recommend drilling out the bolts and prying the
arms off with a crowbar. Be sure to recycle them, as they can be
reprocessed into such useful items as single-serving beverage
containers and pie tins. ;^)

Chalo Colina

Totally unfair, even with the smiley. Just because /you/ weigh over 400
pounds and break...what, almost everything?...doesn't mean that Shimano
cranks are weak or inferior. I've had XTR, Ultegra and DuraAce cranks, and
they've all been superb. Also true of many others riders I know.

If your criticism was directed at Octalink in particular, I've had no
problems with that, either, despite hearing the wives' tales.

Light and stiff gets it done.

Bill S.

Bill Sornson said:

Chalo said:

For Shimano cranks, I recommend drilling out the bolts and prying the
arms off with a crowbar. Be sure to recycle them, as they can be
reprocessed into such useful items as single-serving beverage
containers and pie tins. ;^)

Totally unfair, even with the smiley. Just because /you/ weigh over 400
pounds and break...what, almost everything?

400 pounds _with_ a good strong bike, you mean. But your point is
taken.

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...doesn't mean that Shimano
cranks are weak or inferior. I've had XTR, Ultegra and DuraAce cranks, and
they've all been superb. Also true of many others riders I know.

I didn't suggest that Shimano cranks are weaker or more inferior than
most of the stuff that passes for acceptable on bikes these days; it's
not. It's just more distasteful.

Just like you're not going to see me pedaling around in Nike shoes, and
if you come to a party at my house you won't find any Coke or Pepsi to
put in your whiskey, and you won't see me stopped at Starbucks for my
java fix, you also won't find Shimano cranks on my bike. They may or
may not suck for measurable technical reasons, but they suck
nonetheless.

I am certain that Shimano Saint cranks would work just fine for me,
from a structural standpoint. But I'll be installing mine about the
same time I get the word "tool" tattooed across my forehead.

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If your criticism was directed at Octalink in particular, I've had no
problems with that, either, despite hearing the wives' tales.

Every shop owner I know says that they see a higher proportion of
trashed Octalink splines (compared to the total number of units) than
of square tapers. Maybe most Octalink users get good service from
their cranks, but on the whole they appear to be less reliable than
other systems. I can see why Shimano saw the merit in upgrading from
square tapers, but I consider Octalink a failed attempt.

At least they don't break off-- or anyway I've never heard of such an
instance.

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Light and stiff gets it done.

Add "strong", "durable", and "cost-effective" and I'm with you.

Chalo Colina

Chalo said:

Bill Sornson said:

Chalo said:

For Shimano cranks, I recommend drilling out the bolts and prying
the arms off with a crowbar. Be sure to recycle them, as they can
be reprocessed into such useful items as single-serving beverage
containers and pie tins. ;^)

Totally unfair, even with the smiley. Just because /you/ weigh over
400 pounds and break...what, almost everything?

400 pounds _with_ a good strong bike, you mean. But your point is
taken.

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...doesn't mean that Shimano
cranks are weak or inferior. I've had XTR, Ultegra and DuraAce
cranks, and they've all been superb. Also true of many others
riders I know.

I didn't suggest that Shimano cranks are weaker or more inferior than
most of the stuff that passes for acceptable on bikes these days; it's
not. It's just more distasteful.

Just like you're not going to see me pedaling around in Nike shoes,
and if you come to a party at my house you won't find any Coke or
Pepsi to put in your whiskey, and you won't see me stopped at
Starbucks for my java fix, you also won't find Shimano cranks on my
bike. They may or may not suck for measurable technical reasons, but
they suck nonetheless.

All you had to say was that it's a religious issue with you, and I'd've
gotten it 🙂

(Hey Neil, we better not tell him about those Nike arm warmers we both
bought on sale after today's ride!)

Selective Tool (I pick my battles, too) Bill