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  1. I have an 80's ALAN frame with a crack in the lug attaching the
    head-tube to the top-tube. The crack isn't visible without a headset
    installed, but with one, it's about 1/2 inch long, vertical along the
    front of the lug. For now, it's not a big deal as I'm just using it
    as a piece of wall art, but if I ever decided I wanted to build it up,
    about how much should it cost to repair? I guess there are two likely
    possibilites: 1. Lug needs to be replaced and 2. Lug just needs
    welding. Just ballpark guesses would be great. Thanks.

    -alan

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  2. Alan Hoyle said:

    I have an 80's ALAN frame with a crack in the lug attaching the
    head-tube to the top-tube. The crack isn't visible without a headset
    installed, but with one, it's about 1/2 inch long, vertical along the
    front of the lug. For now, it's not a big deal as I'm just using it
    as a piece of wall art, but if I ever decided I wanted to build it up,
    about how much should it cost to repair? I guess there are two likely
    possibilites: 1. Lug needs to be replaced and 2. Lug just needs
    welding. Just ballpark guesses would be great. Thanks.

    Send it to A. Muzi!

    http://www.yellowjersey.org/zito.html

    -nate

  3. Alan Hoyle said:

    I have an 80's ALAN frame with a crack in the lug attaching the
    head-tube to the top-tube. The crack isn't visible without a headset
    installed, but with one, it's about 1/2 inch long, vertical along the
    front of the lug. For now, it's not a big deal as I'm just using it
    as a piece of wall art, but if I ever decided I wanted to build it up,
    about how much should it cost to repair? I guess there are two likely
    possibilites: 1. Lug needs to be replaced and 2. Lug just needs
    welding. Just ballpark guesses would be great. Thanks.

    If the crack in the lug spreads with a headset installed, it's at
    least 90% likely that the head tube is also split. Repair, in that
    case, should be in the form of replacment of the head tube and lug in
    my opinion. I doubt that the frame is worth the effort and expense.
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  4. Dear Alan,

    Your frame is almost certainly unrepairable. Now, if it had been
    lugged, silver-brazed steel ...

    good luck on your next frame.

    jn

    "Thursday"

  5. Alan Hoyle said:

    I have an 80's ALAN frame with a crack in the lug attaching the
    head-tube to the top-tube. The crack isn't visible without a headset
    installed, but with one, it's about 1/2 inch long, vertical along the
    front of the lug. For now, it's not a big deal as I'm just using it
    as a piece of wall art, but if I ever decided I wanted to build it up,
    about how much should it cost to repair? I guess there are two likely
    possibilites: 1. Lug needs to be replaced and 2. Lug just needs
    welding. Just ballpark guesses would be great. Thanks.

    -alan

    Just for clarification- this is a bonded aluminum ALAN frame, similar
    to the Vitus frames of the same era?

    If so, Harry Havnoonian may be able to do it:
    http://www.hhracinggroup.com/services.htm . I know they've repaired
    Vitus aluminum frames in the past.

    Jeff

  6. Alan Hoyle said:

    I have an 80's ALAN frame with a crack in the lug attaching the
    head-tube to the top-tube. The crack isn't visible without a headset
    installed, but with one, it's about 1/2 inch long, vertical along the
    front of the lug. For now, it's not a big deal as I'm just using it
    as a piece of wall art, but if I ever decided I wanted to build it up,
    about how much should it cost to repair? I guess there are two likely
    possibilites: 1. Lug needs to be replaced and 2. Lug just needs
    welding. Just ballpark guesses would be great. Thanks.

    -alan


    wall art. to repair the crack reliably, you'd have to grind it all out,
    fill with new metal using tig, heat treat, re-finish, etc. just not
    economic. unless you have a new lug laying about the place somewhere.

    all in all, not worth repairing but it's /great/ wall art. consider it
    honorable retirement.

  7. "jim beam" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Alan Hoyle said:

    I have an 80's ALAN frame with a crack in the lug attaching


    the

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    head-tube to the top-tube. The crack isn't visible without a


    headset

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    installed, but with one, it's about 1/2 inch long, vertical


    along the

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    front of the lug. For now, it's not a big deal as I'm just


    using it

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    as a piece of wall art, but if I ever decided I wanted to


    build it up,

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    about how much should it cost to repair? I guess there are


    two likely

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    possibilites: 1. Lug needs to be replaced and 2. Lug just


    needs

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    welding. Just ballpark guesses would be great. Thanks.

    -alan


    wall art. to repair the crack reliably, you'd have to grind it


    all out,

    Quoted message said:

    fill with new metal using tig, heat treat, re-finish, etc.


    just not

    Quoted message said:

    economic. unless you have a new lug laying about the place


    somewhere.

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    all in all, not worth repairing but it's /great/ wall art.


    consider it

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    honorable retirement.

    Also check the closeouts at Nashbar. They had some NOS Vitus of
    that perior for pretty cheap. -- Jay Beattie.

  8. Alan Hoyle said:

    I have an 80's ALAN frame with a crack in the lug attaching the
    head-tube to the top-tube. The crack isn't visible without a headset
    installed, but with one, it's about 1/2 inch long, vertical along the
    front of the lug. For now, it's not a big deal as I'm just using it
    as a piece of wall art, but if I ever decided I wanted to build it up,
    about how much should it cost to repair? I guess there are two likely
    possibilites: 1. Lug needs to be replaced and 2. Lug just needs
    welding. Just ballpark guesses would be great. Thanks.

    Thanks for all the responses. I bought the frame on the cheap with
    the expectation that it would hang nicely in my living room, and based
    on your feedback, I won't even think about doing anything else. The
    repair costs quoted were WAY higher than I spent on the entire frame in the
    first place....

    http://www.alanhoyle.com/images/alan-frame.jpg

    -alan

    --
    Alan Hoyle - [email hidden] - http://www.alanhoyle.com/
    "I don't want the world, I just want your half." -TMBG
    Get Horizontal, Play Ultimate.

  9. Alan Hoyle said:


    http://www.alanhoyle.com/images/alan-frame.jpg

    You need to use lighter material to hang the frame. Light fishing line
    is more than adequate and disappears against the background.

    Jeff

  10. Give a call to mel pinto imports. They imported the frameset into the
    USA and they can recommend an experienced repair shop. I think that
    ALAN can still repair these - they still made these frames as late as
    2002, although the cool engravings were gone by then ...

    www.melpintoimports.net

    - Don Gillies
    San Diego, CA

  11. Quoted message said:

    Your frame is almost certainly unrepairable. Now, if it had been
    lugged, silver-brazed steel ...

    This is utter baloney, ALAN framesets are 100% repairable (I'm
    assuming its a glued and screwed frameset, not a TIG welded frameset.)

    - Don Gillies
    San Diego, CA

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