replacing crankset - Alivio or Deore/LX? mail-order



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Bert L.Am

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"Mike" <[email protected]> schreef in bericht
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> Bert L.am wrote:
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> > PRICING QUESTION Alivio FC-MC 20-L 23 Euro (equiv. to 28
> > USD) Deore LX 4-Arm Octalink FC-M 572 (round 70 Euro
> > depending on model) (85 USD)
> > http://www.roseversand.de/rose_main.cfm?spr_id=2
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> further re roseversand.de, that Alivio price looks good
> until I saw the 12 euro "dispatch charge". No info in
> int'l shipping. Their Deore is octalink only. I need
> square taper. And the website sucks. Javascript doesnt
> work. Maybe its a microsoft only site.
>
> Re Alivio, that one says it needs an IG chain. More
> worries. I guess I'll order the Deore from
> chainreactioncycles.com UK. Its just a pity that so
> many of the goodies on their website are "Out of
> Stock".

You may want to mail them directly with your queries. They
are real helpfull. (Is a must be to survive in the German
market). About the marketing language. I know the difference
between LX, XT and XTR by experience. A crank will not
suffer from a though ride under hard conditions, but
everything that is subject to wear does. For the type of
rider that I am XT is just ok. When I used LX it was cheaper
initially, but I had to change rolling parts more often and
during rides in wet and muddy conditions the behaviour (like
shifting with one click) it was less.

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Mike

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DRS wrote:
> "gescom" <[email protected]> wrote in message

>>I know it might be expensive but you can get a XT model
>>crank with a 48 tooth max chainring which would be better
>>suited for road riding.

What! and give up the 22-tooth granny? Walk up those 20%
grades? :) A 44:11 gear is plenty high enough for a
mountain bike. Thats 100", 8m/rev, 43km/hr at 90rpm.

I'd like to have a 22-32-48 combination. Will any derailers
work well with that? I guess not, or people would do it.

> There's also a 48-36-26 Deore crank but my understanding
> is it's ordinarily only available in Europe (we get the
> 44-32-22). I have no idea why.

No demand? I guess its not intended for use with a compact
(ie 11T) cassette.
 
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Mike

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amirm wrote:

> I just finished upgrading the drivetrain of my new bike
> from Deore to
> XT.

So are you selling the Deore parts? :)

> I bought the majority of parts new from e-bay. Savings of
> 25-40% off

I had a look at past sales there. Lots of XT stuff, but not
much midrange that I recognised.

> For Deore performance, I was not happy with the shift
> operation in front

You must be young :) Even the low-end shimano shifting is
so far ahead of what we used to use, I cant complain. So you
need to take the load off the pedals before shifting
chainrings. Doesnt bother me. Do the expensive parts avoid
the need for that? I'll bet an Acera rear shifter still
changes more easily than an XT front shifter :)

> at all. With the new 760 series cranks and derailleur, the
> difference is very very visible. And with exterrnal
> bearing design of new 760, the

I'd say I dont care about looks, but you'd know I was lying.

> With changing cranks or chainrings need to be careful with
> derailleur compatibility, bottom bracket compatibility and
> your chain length.

Yes, thanks. I've read lots of sheldonbrown.com . Am
sticking with the old square-taper BB. Not worth the effort
of changing.

> Sometimes bright and simple ideas on upgrading could burn
> a whole in the pocket due to unforeseen incompatibilities.

I hope I gave enough info for someone to point out a
problem. I'm sticking similar to the old parts. Front
derailer cage has plenty of spare height. Square BB. HG
chain. Shimano 9-speed.

I think the old front derailer and crankset are 8-speed. Its
a bit fussy about adjustment to get quick up-shifts without
holding the lever in.

> The gain with moving to Deore is access to hollowtech and
> octalink technology which save weight and increases
> stiffness. If these are not important, no need for them.
> XT is the reliable performance level in this family while
> Deore is the bread and butter level. LX is in between. If
> the looks is important, LX is a winner since it's got XT's
> looks but not as pricy. The current LX FC M572 crankset
> looks different from current Deore FC M510. The shape of
> arms suggests stiffer operation. Haven't checked the rings
> closely, though.

Ta. Sounds like Deore for me. Mike.
 
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Drs

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"Mike" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> DRS wrote:

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> I'd like to have a 22-32-48 combination. Will any
> derailers work well with that? I guess not, or people
> would do it.

I think (from memory) the Deore derailleur has a maximum
tooth difference of
12.

>> There's also a 48-36-26 Deore crank but my understanding
>> is it's ordinarily only available in Europe (we get the
>> 44-32-22). I have no idea why.
>
> No demand? I guess its not intended for use with a compact
> (ie 11T) cassette.

No demand because nobody here knows it exists, maybe. I only
found out by accident, from a bloke who imported the 48T big
ring from a UK store.

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Mike

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Jose Rizal wrote:

> aebike.com has a good selection of cranks and
> chainrings. Their

Bingo! They certainly do. Good website, with huge choice,
and low prices. They list a FC-M440-C which has all the
right specs (9-spd, non-riveted, 170mm, chainguard (yes!),
22-32-44, steel rings, sq taper.)

> international shipping seems reasonable too (there's a
> shipping estimator on their website). The downside is that
> they don't sell Shimano components over the internet, but
> they do over the phone. If

I just phoned them, and he told me that internet orders for
Shimano will be working on the weekend. A long story,
apparently.

They send USPS, so can have up to A$500 per order without
GST. (Customs has $250 limit for couiered orders to be
tax-free.) And they are in Kalamazoo. What a cool name
for a city.

Thanks Jose.