Required Temperature for Recipe

"Drew Cutter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

How close can you get to the required temperature without it affecting
what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require about 450 degree
. Would the use of cast iron help to get to the required temperature ?
calzone , Chicago style pizza .

If you preheat something like a cast iron griddle or pan, it *might* help
you get away with temp being too low. But, obviously, it's not going to
"raise" the temperature.

Why are you asking this question? Is your oven broken?

Drew Cutter said:

How close can you get to the required temperature without it affecting
what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require about 450
degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the required
temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal mass in
your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this. What thermal mass
essentially means is the material you're using absorbs and releases heat
when there's a temperature difference between the mass and the air around
it. If you're using an electric oven, there's a gauge that turns the
elements on to your desired temp, and then the elements shut off. When the
temperature inside the oven dips again, the elements turn back on. If you
heat tiles or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your desired
temperature and create a more even heating temperature.

I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and explain it
better.

kili

kilikini said:

Drew Cutter said:

How close can you get to the required temperature without it affecting
what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require about 450
degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the required
temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal mass in
your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this. What thermal mass
essentially means is the material you're using absorbs and releases heat
when there's a temperature difference between the mass and the air around
it. If you're using an electric oven, there's a gauge that turns the
elements on to your desired temp, and then the elements shut off. When the
temperature inside the oven dips again, the elements turn back on. If you
heat tiles or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your desired
temperature and create a more even heating temperature.

I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and explain it
better.

kili

Backing away slowly.... you did just fine Kili!

--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

sf said:

kilikini said:

Drew Cutter said:

How close can you get to the required temperature without it
affecting what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require
about 450 degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the
required temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal
mass in your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this.
What thermal mass essentially means is the material you're using
absorbs and releases heat when there's a temperature difference
between the mass and the air around it. If you're using an electric
oven, there's a gauge that turns the elements on to your desired
temp, and then the elements shut off. When the temperature inside
the oven dips again, the elements turn back on. If you heat tiles
or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your desired temperature
and create a more even heating temperature.

I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and
explain it better.

kili

Backing away slowly.... you did just fine Kili!

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

kili

kilikini said:

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

You usually do "right", you just don't come off as so goll durned
authorative. LOL Man, you put some *energy* into that!

--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

what I'm attempting to do is using a electric griddle that can reach 450
degrees , with a cast iron skillet / lid .

sf said:

kilikini said:

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

You usually do "right", you just don't come off as so goll durned
authorative. LOL Man, you put some *energy* into that!

kilikini said:

sf said:

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Drew Cutter wrote:
> How close can you get to the required temperature without it
> affecting what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require
> about 450 degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the
> required temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal
mass in your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this.
What thermal mass essentially means is the material you're using
absorbs and releases heat when there's a temperature difference
between the mass and the air around it. If you're using an electric
oven, there's a gauge that turns the elements on to your desired
temp, and then the elements shut off. When the temperature inside
the oven dips again, the elements turn back on. If you heat tiles
or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your desired temperature
and create a more even heating temperature.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and
explain it better.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

kili

Quoted message said:

Backing away slowly.... you did just fine Kili!

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

Sheldon

"Drew Cutter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

what I'm attempting to do is using a electric griddle that can reach 450
degrees , with a cast iron skillet / lid .

Why? Do you not have an oven?

Sheldon said:

kilikini said:

sf said:

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

She was talking about stabalizing the temperature and keeping it from
dropping fast, which is a good thing if your thermostat is faulty.

--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.

I presently got a 1950 oven. Not sure if it can get up to 500 degree.

sf said:

Sheldon said:

kilikini said:

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

She was talking about stabalizing the temperature and keeping it from
dropping fast, which is a good thing if your thermostat is faulty.

"Drew Cutter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I presently got a 1950 oven. Not sure if it can get up to 500 degree.

sf said:

Sheldon said:

On Jul 16, 11:05?am, "kilikini" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> sf wrote:
>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

She was talking about stabalizing the temperature and keeping it from
dropping fast, which is a good thing if your thermostat is faulty.

Oven thermometer. Under five bucks at any decent supermarket.

sf said:

Sheldon said:

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

She was talking about stabalizing the temperature and keeping it from
dropping fast, which is a good thing if your thermostat is faulty.

Hmm, friction causes heat, I think all she need do is rub it a
little... that sounds like a sexual problem of a personal nature. 😉

I really think she needs to call a service man. LOL

Sheldon

Drew Cutter said:

I presently got a 1950 oven. Not sure if it can get up to 500 degree.

Fifty seven years old... I think your oven needs a hysterectomy. hehe

Sheldon

Sheldon said:

kilikini said:

sf said:

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

> Drew Cutter wrote:
>> How close can you get to the required temperature without it
>> affecting what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require
>> about 450 degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the
>> required temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

Quoted message said:

> What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal
> mass in your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this.
> What thermal mass essentially means is the material you're using
> absorbs and releases heat when there's a temperature difference
> between the mass and the air around it. If you're using an
> electric oven, there's a gauge that turns the elements on to your
> desired temp, and then the elements shut off. When the
> temperature inside the oven dips again, the elements turn back on.
> If you heat tiles or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your
> desired temperature and create a more even heating temperature.

Quoted message said:

> I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and
> explain it better.

Quoted message said:

> kili

Quoted message said:

Backing away slowly.... you did just fine Kili!

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

Sheldon

You're exactly right, Sheldon. An oven and all of its contents can only get
as hot as it gets. But, as I'm sure you know, most electric ovens turn on
and off using a thermostat. To get the most efficient heating you can,
using tiles or bricks can help even out the oven during those peaks and
valleys. I know I don't have to tell you this, though. :~)

kili

"kilikini" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Sheldon said:

kilikini said:

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:

>> Drew Cutter wrote:
>>> How close can you get to the required temperature without it
>>> affecting what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require
>>> about 450 degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the
>>> required temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

>> What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal
>> mass in your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this.
>> What thermal mass essentially means is the material you're using
>> absorbs and releases heat when there's a temperature difference
>> between the mass and the air around it. If you're using an
>> electric oven, there's a gauge that turns the elements on to your
>> desired temp, and then the elements shut off. When the
>> temperature inside the oven dips again, the elements turn back on.
>> If you heat tiles or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your
>> desired temperature and create a more even heating temperature.

>> I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and
>> explain it better.

>> kili

> Backing away slowly.... you did just fine Kili!

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

Sheldon

You're exactly right, Sheldon. An oven and all of its contents can only
get
as hot as it gets. But, as I'm sure you know, most electric ovens turn on
and off using a thermostat. To get the most efficient heating you can,
using tiles or bricks can help even out the oven during those peaks and
valleys. I know I don't have to tell you this, though. :~)

kili

Electric ovens use a thermostat? What do gas ovens use? Little heat pixies
sticking their heatproof fingers into the oven to see how things are going?

kilikini said:

Sheldon said:

kilikini said:

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> Drew Cutter wrote:
>>> How close can you get to the required temperature without it
>>> affecting what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require
>>> about 450 degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the
>>> required temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal
>> mass in your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this.
>> What thermal mass essentially means is the material you're using
>> absorbs and releases heat when there's a temperature difference
>> between the mass and the air around it. If you're using an
>> electric oven, there's a gauge that turns the elements on to your
>> desired temp, and then the elements shut off. When the
>> temperature inside the oven dips again, the elements turn back on.
>> If you heat tiles or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your
>> desired temperature and create a more even heating temperature.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and
>> explain it better.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> kili

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Backing away slowly.... you did just fine Kili!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

Quoted message said:

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

Quoted message said:

Sheldon

You're exactly right, Sheldon. An oven and all of its contents can only get
as hot as it gets. But, as I'm sure you know, most electric ovens turn on
and off using a thermostat. To get the most efficient heating you can,
using tiles or bricks can help even out the oven during those peaks and
valleys. I know I don't have to tell you this, though. :~)

Um, there are no peaks and valleys... thermostats contain circuitry
called an "anticipator" (electric or gas), a device that monitors the
rate of rise and shuts off the heater before it reaches the set
temperature so that the temperature doesn't over ride the setting by
more than a degree or two... does the same in reverse, turns on the
heater as soon as the temperature stabilizes at the thermostat setting
so that the temperature doesn't drop below the set temperature by more
than a degree or two. Any peaks and valleys are long and flat, the
heater cycles about every 5 minutes so that the temperature doesn't
vary more than +/- 2 degF, not nearly enough variance to affect any
cooking. The solid state anticipators for thermostats nowadays are
very sensitive. They're used for home heating/cooling systems too.
If your heating/cooling exhibits more than 3 degF temperature swing
then you have an older or malfunctioning thermostat, time to have it
replaced... a new one will save more in the cost of energy the first
year than the price of the unit.

I bet you thought I was going to expound on more lascivious peaks and
valleys. hehe

Sheldon

kilikini said:

Sheldon said:

kilikini said:

sf wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
> <[email hidden]> wrote:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> Drew Cutter wrote:
>>> How close can you get to the required temperature without it
>>> affecting what you are cooking ? I thinking of things that require
>>> about 450 degree . Would the use of cast iron help to get to the
>>> required temperature ? calzone , Chicago style pizza .

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> What you're really looking for is something to increase the thermal
>> mass in your oven. Many people use bricks or tiles to do this.
>> What thermal mass essentially means is the material you're using
>> absorbs and releases heat when there's a temperature difference
>> between the mass and the air around it. If you're using an
>> electric oven, there's a gauge that turns the elements on to your
>> desired temp, and then the elements shut off. When the
>> temperature inside the oven dips again, the elements turn back on.
>> If you heat tiles or bricks in the oven first, they'll hold your
>> desired temperature and create a more even heating temperature.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> I hope this makes sense. Maybe someone else can step in here and
>> explain it better.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> kili

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> Backing away slowly.... you did just fine Kili!

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Wow! I actually did something right? Thanks!

Quoted message said:

Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
higher temperature than the thermostat setting.

Quoted message said:

Sheldon

You're exactly right, Sheldon. An oven and all of its contents can only get
as hot as it gets. But, as I'm sure you know, most electric ovens turn on
and off using a thermostat. To get the most efficient heating you can,
using tiles or bricks can help even out the oven during those peaks and
valleys. I know I don't have to tell you this, though. :~)

There are no peaks and valleys... for many years now thermostats (for
gas and electric) use a device called an "anticipator", prevents
temperature fluctuations of more than +/- 2 degF. Placing tiles and
bricks into an oven does one thing and one thing only, heating them
increases energy use, could easily cause an oven up to ten times
longer to come up to temperature... actually does two things, their
presence also indicates a moron lives here.

I bet you thought I was going to discuss more lascivious peaks and
valleys. LOL

Sheldon

JoeSpareBedroom said:

Electric ovens use a thermostat? What do gas ovens use? Little heat pixies
sticking their heatproof fingers into the oven to see how things are going?

Well, that's what the fancy ones use.

--
Blinky RLU 297263
Killing all posts from Google Groups
The Usenet Improvement Project: http://blinkynet.net/comp/uip5.html

JoeSpareBedroom said:

"Drew Cutter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I presently got a 1950 oven. Not sure if it can get up to 500 degree.

sf said:

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:11:17 -0700, Sheldon <[email hidden]> wrote:

> On Jul 16, 11:05?am, "kilikini" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> sf wrote:
>>> On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 08:17:56 -0400, "kilikini"
>>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> Not sure what's needed, but nothing placed into an oven can reach a
> higher temperature than the thermostat setting.
>
She was talking about stabalizing the temperature and keeping it from
dropping fast, which is a good thing if your thermostat is faulty.

Oven thermometer. Under five bucks at any decent supermarket.

BTDT... didn't work. The repair guy came out and said it didn't kick
on when it should - recalibrating wasn't in the stars, replacement was

The stones keep get the air temp up to snuff after you've opened the
door and regulate it when your thermostate doesn't kick on when it
should.

--

A husband is someone who takes out the trash and gives the impression he just cleaned the whole house.