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  1. I have been improving my ability to ride my Coker uphill and have been
    given some tips by some world-class riders (Scot, Nathan, Mike). I'd
    like to know if any of you have some proven techniques that you would
    share with us?

    For example, I would like to know of you other "uphill Coker
    riders"...

    (a) Where do you put your hands during uphill descents? Right in front
    of the saddle?

    (b) Is it best to try to keep both hands on the saddle and "pull" into
    the hill?

    (c) When is the best time to get out of the saddle?

    (d) Do you find it possible to maintain a constant uphill speed, even
    for 15% grades? If so, what are the "tricks"?

    Thanks, and I look forward to learning more secrets.

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  2. i think the bigist thing is to keep padaling. never stop and you will
    make it to the top

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  3. what I do is go really, really fast before and into the hill, and then
    you start going up and you can use the momentum/inertia to help carry
    you up it. keep pedalling smoothly, and it'll be easy. if the hill is
    too long though, then eventually the momentum will start to decrease and
    you'll slow down. make sure you hold the saddle with one hand, and hold
    the other out in front to keep your weight far forward. and try to keep
    pedaling smoooothly, very consistently. that's very important.

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  4. On real steep descents, I usually pull the saddle up towards me and
    press hard on the pedals to ensure that I am in control and my foot does
    not slip off the pedals.

    When the ascents are very steep, I get off the saddle a bit and don't
    climb up the hill in a straight line. I weave ever so slightly with each
    pedal stroke.

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  5. Lean forward. Deeply. The steeper the hill the more you have to lean
    into it. The rest comes by itself; in order to keep yourself from
    falling on your nose you have to pedal like mad. If you get to an even
    steeper section lean forward even more. You will be up in no time. I
    keep one hand on the front handle and the other pointing ahead of me so
    I can fine tune the leaning angle.

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  6. goldenchicken II said:

    Lean forward. Deeply. The steeper the hill the more you have to lean
    into it.

    And here's why: <http://www.xs4all.nl/~klaasbil/lean_uni.htm>.

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
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  7. Mark, it's great to hear you're cranking up the hills these days. We
    have been concentrating on climbing WAY more than distance as training
    for the Alps Tour. Just this evening when I got home from work, Beau and
    I went out for a 5.75mile ride that climbed over 800' with grades up to
    19%. With 125mm cranks, there were a couple of sections that neither of
    us could continuously crank. With a couple of dismounts, we rode every
    foot though. We plan to do the same little ride tomorrow night with
    152mm cranks.

    Anyway, here are my answers to your questions:

    a) My left hand is firmly on my handle, cranking as little as possible,
    but one very steep climbs, it's cranking hard. My right hand is out for
    balance (trying not to flail).

    b) I get enough pull from just one hand and get extra balance having the
    other out. This is especially true on long steep hills where I am
    reduced to a slow speed. You need some kind of ergonomic handle for this
    to work well.

    c) I guess the best time to get out of the saddle is when you want to.
    On long rides if I'm feeling sore I'll stand up on almost any little
    hill just to get some blood flowing without stopping. But on a hill that
    gets steeper and steeper, I'll come out of the saddle when my speed
    drops below some speed - I think that speed varies depending on several
    things like how strong I'm feeling at the time. In short it's hard to
    say.

    d) On a long but consistent steep climb (say 15% to 18%), there are two
    speeds for me. The higher one is where I am still spinning the cranks
    but slowly. The speed is 4-5mph. The slower one is when I'm tired, say
    climbing the last bit of Mt Diablo: 1/4 mile of 18% grade after 3300' of
    climbing in 10.6 miles. In that case, I am going 1/2 turn at a time,
    always concentrating on getting one more half turn of the pedals. I
    think the speed here is about walking speed, 3mph. I've been improving
    to where I have to go into this mode later and not as often. It's really
    more like Muni than normal road riding.

    Crank length is really important if you're climbing long steep hills. I
    am looking forward to tomorrow's experiment to see how much easier it
    is.

    Good luck on those climbs!

    ---Nathan

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  8. The big thing when climbing is to make sure that you don't lose your
    pedaling momentum in the dead spot when the cranks are vertical. That's
    where you loose energy and make extra work for yourself.

    Try to get through the dead spot as smoothly as possible and without
    letting the wheel slow down. This is easier to do when you're sitting
    on the saddle and spinning. This is harder to do when standing on the
    pedals.

    Concentrate on pointing the toes down at the bottom of the pedal stroke.
    And pull your foot back like you're scraping mud off the sole of your
    shoe. The combination will help you get through the dead spot as
    smoothly as possible.

    When standing up out of the saddle it becomes harder to get through the
    dead spot smoothly. You have to dance on the pedals to make it happen.
    Point the toes down, pull the foot back, and give a little bounce at the
    bottom of the pedal stroke (that bounce is the dance). Don't forget to
    lift your foot on the backstroke instead of just letting the other foot
    push your leg around.

    It takes practice. Once you get the motions down the climbing will
    become easier.

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  9. john_childs said:

    *When standing up out of the saddle it becomes harder to get through
    the dead spot smoothly. You have to dance on the pedals to make it
    happen. *

    When dancing, it's also important to hum a little tune to help you keep
    time. My favorite--which seems appropriate to the activity--is the Ray
    Bolger version of "If I Only Had a Brain".

    Nathan's reply on "when to stand up" gave me a small revelation. I've
    been climbing more lately, and would have answered that same question
    with "when you _need_ to, i.e. your body will know when it's required
    to keep from falling. I've been trying to go steeper and longer before
    getting to that "need" point, but it hadn't occured to me to use
    "voluntary" standing as a way to get some blood flow back w/o taking a
    break. It's a good idea.

    One thing I've been practicing is to reduce my dependence on pulling on
    the handle. I keep my right hand on the handle on _any_ climb, but as
    much as possible I'm trying now to use it more for guidance purposes and
    to increase my feeling of connection to the unicycle, versus pulling on
    it because I need the leverage. I find I have to lean a little further
    forward to compensate for not pulling so hard, but the ROI for my energy
    level is substantial. I was finding that I was pulling so hard during
    my climbs that it was draining all my energy, and leaving my right arm
    and shoulder sore the next day. Not good.

    The final recommend is just keep climbing. Other than the above reco on
    trying to reduce dependency on pulling, I've found the best teacher for
    my climbing technique (and distance riding technique overall) is simply
    more miles and more hills.

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