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Published: 14 July 2003
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Original author: Info.
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Topics: Campagnolo Carbon wheels Rim tape and valves

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Info.
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14 July 2003, 20:01 UTC #1

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Ronald
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14 July 2003, 21:30 UTC #2

Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
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Mike Jacoubowsk
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14 July 2003, 22:00 UTC #3

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Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
It certainly appears to have a rimstrip anyway. And how about the fact that Beloki doesn't even have
his feet on the ground yet? And the Gendarme... anybody notice that the crash hasn't even registered
with him yet?
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com
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Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
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Joe C
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15 July 2003, 02:31 UTC #4

If I remember the video right, the Gendarme was focusing more on LA, he blew right by him.
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Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
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Beloki doesn't even have his feet on the ground yet? And the Gendarme... anybody notice that the
crash hasn't even registered with him yet?
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com
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Nick Burns
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15 July 2003, 03:01 UTC #5

Say Mike,
Do you know how much Lance's new bike weighs and if he is using the front STI lever?
TIA

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Mike Jacoubowsk
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15 July 2003, 04:31 UTC #6

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Do you know how much Lance's new bike weighs and if he is using the front STI lever?
Ask me in four days (I'll be catching up with the 'tour in Toulouse).
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com

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Brian Phillips
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15 July 2003, 05:01 UTC #7

"Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
It certainly appears to have a rimstrip anyway. And how about the fact

that
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Beloki doesn't even have his feet on the ground yet? And the Gendarme... anybody notice that the
crash hasn't even registered with him yet?
Looks that way in the photo, but after watching the film again, it looks like he's more focused on
the riders coming down the hill who are heading towards the crash. The crash happened right in front
of him, then moved right next to him as the photo was shot, so it's hard to imagine that he wasn't
aware of it.

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Bret Wade
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15 July 2003, 05:01 UTC #8

Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles said:
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Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
It certainly appears to have a rimstrip anyway. And how about the fact that Beloki doesn't even
have his feet on the ground yet? And the Gendarme... anybody notice that the crash hasn't even
registered with him yet?
The gendarme was very cool. He took a step backwards as Lance passed to give him room. Then as the
picture was taken, he had is eyes on an Euskaltel rider that was headed his way. Once that rider
came to a stop on the side of the road, the gendarme stepped forward to help Beloki.
Bret (replayed it on my Tivo)

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Mike Jacoubowsk
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15 July 2003, 07:01 UTC #9

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Looks that way in the photo, but after watching the film again, it looks like he's more focused on
the riders coming down the hill who are heading towards the crash. The crash happened right in
front of him, then moved right next to him as the photo was shot, so it's hard to imagine that he
wasn't aware of it.
Yep, I saw the same thing when I watched the TV coverage later in the day.
--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles chainreactionbicycles.comchainreactionbicycles.com
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"Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:
Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
It certainly appears to have a rimstrip anyway. And how about the fact

that
Quoted message said:
Beloki doesn't even have his feet on the ground yet? And the

Gendarme...
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anybody notice that the crash hasn't even registered with him yet?
Looks that way in the photo, but after watching the film again, it looks like he's more focused on
the riders coming down the hill who are heading towards the crash. The crash happened right in
front of him, then moved right next to him as the photo was shot, so it's hard to imagine that he
wasn't aware of it.

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Brian Roth
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15 July 2003, 14:00 UTC #10

"Ronald" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...
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Beloki's rear looks like a clincher rim.
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It's tubular. You can just see it re-attaching to the rim by the brake bridge. There is a better
photo in one of the other threads.....

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Ewoud Dronkert
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15 July 2003, 14:30 UTC #11

brian roth said:
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It's tubular. You can just see it re-attaching to the rim by the brake bridge. There is a better
photo in one of the other threads.....
This one? phys.uu.nlbeloki14072003.jpg

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Kurgan Gringion
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15 July 2003, 18:17 UTC #12

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> velonews.com4520.5461.f.jpg
It's tubular. You can just see it re-attaching to the rim by the brake bridge. There is a better
photo in one of the other threads.....
This one? phys.uu.nlbeloki14072003.jpg
To me, that looks like Velox rim tape.
Look at the rim. Looks like a clincher to me.

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Ewoud Dronkert
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15 July 2003, 19:00 UTC #13

Kurgan Gringioni said:
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To me, that looks like Velox rim tape. Look at the rim. Looks like a clincher to me.
Don't know about the tape, but agreed about the rim.

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Todd Kuzma
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15 July 2003, 20:30 UTC #14

Kurgan Gringioni said:
To me, that looks like Velox rim tape.
Look at the rim. Looks like a clincher to me.
The fact that most of the tire is still attached to the rim suggests that it is a tubular.
Additionally, the sidewalls of the rim are black rather than silver suggesting that the wheels are
carbon-rimmed tubulars that Beloki had been riding earlier.
It's difficult to make out the bed of the rim. It could be Velox. It could be the tubular base tape.
It could be the glue.
Todd Kuzma Heron Bicycles Tullio's Big Dog Cyclery LaSalle, Il 815-223-1776
heronbicycles.comheronbicycles.com tullios.comtullios.com

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Brian Roth
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15 July 2003, 21:00 UTC #15

Ewoud Dronkert <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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This one? phys.uu.nlbeloki14072003.jpg
Yes!

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Kurgan Gringion
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15 July 2003, 21:31 UTC #16

"Todd Kuzma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...
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Kurgan Gringioni said:
To me, that looks like Velox rim tape.
Look at the rim. Looks like a clincher to me.
The fact that most of the tire is still attached to the rim suggests that it is a tubular.
Additionally, the sidewalls of the rim are black rather than silver suggesting that the wheels are
carbon-rimmed tubulars that Beloki had been riding earlier.
It's difficult to make out the bed of the rim. It could be Velox. It could be the tubular base
tape. It could be the glue.
Look at the rim itself, where the bead of the clincher seats.

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DiabloScott
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15 July 2003, 21:48 UTC #17

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Originally posted by Kurgan Gringion
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Kurgan Gringioni said:
To me, that looks like Velox rim tape.
Look at the rim. Looks like a clincher to me.
The fact that most of the tire is still attached to the rim suggests that it is a tubular.
Additionally, the sidewalls of the rim are black rather than silver suggesting that the wheels are
carbon-rimmed tubulars that Beloki had been riding earlier.
It's difficult to make out the bed of the rim. It could be Velox. It could be the tubular base
tape. It could be the glue.

Look at the rim itself, where the bead of the clincher seats.
Clearly he was riding a sew-up on a clincher rim! No glue, just air pressure to keep it on the wheel. Little wonder it rolled, the mechanic should be shot!

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Warren
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15 July 2003, 23:01 UTC #18

In article <[email hidden]>, Kurgan Gringioni
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brian roth said:
> > velonews.com4520.5461.f.jpg
It's tubular. You can just see it re-attaching to the rim by the brake bridge. There is a
better photo in one of the other threads.....
This one? phys.uu.nlbeloki14072003.jpg
To me, that looks like Velox rim tape.
Look at the rim. Looks like a clincher to me.
It does to me as well, but when a clincher is partly off the rim it makes a straight line (chord)
across the arc, but a tubular tends to look just like the one in the photo.
-WG

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Todd Kuzma
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15 July 2003, 23:01 UTC #19

Kurgan Gringioni said:
"Todd Kuzma" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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It's difficult to make out the bed of the rim. It could be Velox. It could be the tubular base
tape. It could be the glue.
Look at the rim itself, where the bead of the clincher seats.
Yes, there is a shadow there, but it's hard to tell if it is a clincher bead. Tubular rims also have
a lip there, but it is not as pronounced. Take a look at the rim profile of the Hyperon on the Campy
website: <http://www.campagnolo.com/wheels.php?gid=1&cid=1>
The amount of glare on the rim in the Beloki photos looks like the gloss surface of the Hyperon rim.
Additionally, the "Campagnolo" logo on the rim looks to be about the same size as the silver
logo/glare on the front wheel. Top it off with the fact that Beloki WAS riding these wheels earlier.
It could be a clincher, but a close look at the details seems to point to Beloki's Hyperon tubulars.
Todd Kuzma

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David Ryan
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16 July 2003, 03:31 UTC #20

warren said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Kurgan Gringioni
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On 15 Jul 2003 06:38:56 -0700, brian roth wrote:
>> > velonews.com4520.5461.f.jpg
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>It's tubular. You can just see it re-attaching to the rim by the brake bridge. There is a
>better photo in one of the other threads.....
This one? phys.uu.nlbeloki14072003.jpg
To me, that looks like Velox rim tape.
Look at the rim. Looks like a clincher to me.
It does to me as well, but when a clincher is partly off the rim it makes a straight line (chord)
across the arc, but a tubular tends to look just like the one in the photo.
-WG
I vote tubular too.

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