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  1. There is a Road Safety Bill in the Queen's Speech.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4035201.stm

    As currently proposed it contains no mention of the H word, but expect
    massive lobbying efforts from the Usual Suspects to have it included
    as an amendment. This may be a Good Thing as amendments will be
    discussed in detail in committee, which is a place where things like
    the Scuffham cost-benefit analysis will be given more weight than
    individual shroud-waving anecdotes.

    Guy
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    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  2. Just zis Guy said:

    There is a Road Safety Bill in the Queen's Speech.

    It also contains measures to alter speeding penalties. The consultation
    exercise ISTR suggested that the penalty for doing 30-35 in a 30 mph
    limit be dropped to two points + fine (from the existing 3 points +
    fine) as it's "less serious". This also needs to be vigorously opposed
    if it remains in the bill.

    R.

  3. you know? said:

    There is a Road Safety Bill in the Queen's Speech.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4035201.stm

    "The RAC said it was important to distinguish between those travelling
    a couple of miles over the speed limit in a non-residential area away
    from schools and other dangers, and those travelling at high speeds or
    in sensitive areas."

    Good point. I suggest not prosecuting those who are travelling only a
    few mph over the limit at all. Give them a bit of leeway - say 10%
    plus 3mph.

    Oh, wait...

    Guy
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    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  4. you know? said:
    you know? said:

    There is a Road Safety Bill in the Queen's Speech.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4035201.stm

    "The RAC said it was important to distinguish between those travelling
    a couple of miles over the speed limit in a non-residential area away
    from schools and other dangers, and those travelling at high speeds or
    in sensitive areas."

    Good point. I suggest not prosecuting those who are travelling only a
    few mph over the limit at all. Give them a bit of leeway - say 10%
    plus 3mph.

    Oh, wait...

    Depends how it's implemented. It would satisfy the RAC's moan if 2
    points were given to 31mph speeders and 3 points to 39mph speeders.
    I'd also be happier with that than the current acceptance by police
    and public that a 30 limit actually means no worries until almost 40.

  5. On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:41:38 +0000, " [Not Responding] "
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    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Depends how it's implemented. It would satisfy the RAC's moan if 2
    points were given to 31mph speeders and 3 points to 39mph speeders.
    I'd also be happier with that than the current acceptance by police
    and public that a 30 limit actually means no worries until almost 40.

    I'm right with you on that (I was being ironic before - you guessed,
    didn't you?).

    But somehow I don't think that's quite what the RAC have in mind.

    Guy
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    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

  6. Richard said:
    Just zis Guy said:

    There is a Road Safety Bill in the Queen's Speech.

    It also contains measures to alter speeding penalties. The consultation
    exercise ISTR suggested that the penalty for doing 30-35 in a 30 mph
    limit be dropped to two points + fine (from the existing 3 points +
    fine) as it's "less serious". This also needs to be vigorously opposed
    if it remains in the bill.

    I'm confused. Isn't the current penalty for doing 30-35 in a 30 limit
    nothing at all? On the basis that prosecution guidelines are set at a
    10% + 2mph margin. So giving 2 point for 30-35 would be strengthening
    of the law. It's been a long day, I have probably missed soemthing...

    Peter

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