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  1. http://www.healthmyths.net/rave.html

    Rogue Chemist Unleashes Pharmaceutical Secrets

    Myth #1 - FDA approved Drugs are Safe and Effective

    Myth #2 - Drug Advertising Promotes Health Awareness for Consumers

    Myth #3 - Pharmaceutical Drugs Improve the Quality of Human Life

    Myth #4 - Professional Medicine Reporting is Honest and Trustworthy

    Myth #5 - Nutritional Supplements (AKA Nutraceuticals) are Dangerous and
    Ineffective

    Myth #6 - High Cholesterol is a Major Risk Factor for Heart Disease

    Myth #7 Cholesterol is Bad for You

    Myth #8 - Cholesterol Lowering Drugs, known as Statins, are Safe and
    Effective at Preventing Heart Disease

    Myth #9 - Ephedra causes Heart Attack, Stroke and Seizures.

    Myth #10 - Dieting is the Cure for Obesity

  2. "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.healthmyths.net/rave.html

    So...were you attracted by the "Make Money" link?

    Mark, MD

  3. [email hidden] (Mark) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.healthmyths.net/rave.html

    So...were you attracted by the "Make Money" link?

    Mark, MD

    Perhaps, if you were to focus Mr. MD?

    Don't you know what an affiliate link is? Refering people by these
    newsgroup postings certainly does not qualify.

    Just thought that you might want to know, even if you don't. 🙂
    --
    john gohde

  4. "N-H-P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    Don't you know what an affiliate link is? Refering people by these
    newsgroup postings certainly does not qualify.

    Just thought that you might want to know, even if you don't. 🙂
    --
    john gohde

    these morons will clutch at straws, that is all they have.

    make money sending someone to a website?

    i think you can get something from amazon if you put a book link in to them

  5. "john" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    "N-H-P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:


    Don't you know what an affiliate link is? Refering people by these
    newsgroup postings certainly does not qualify.

    Just thought that you might want to know, even if you don't. 🙂
    --
    john gohde

    these morons will clutch at straws, that is all they have.

    make money sending someone to a website?

    i think you can get something from amazon if you put a book link in to them

    To get a commission you need a web page that contains an unique
    hyperlink that has a number in it that uniquely identifies the
    business transaction came from your web site.

    There was obviously no number in that hyperlink that would give
    anybody any commission.

    Are these physicians really that stupid and blind to reality when they
    give their patients a physical examination?
    --
    john gohde
    PS: Wright you are too stupid/obnoxious to even reply to. 🙂

  6. "N-H-P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    --

    Quoted message said:

    PS: Wright you are too stupid/obnoxious to even reply to. 🙂

    god invented the killfile for that moron. I think he is even to stupid to
    be a pharma shill--except unwittingly, you certainly wouldn't pay him.

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    john said:


    "N-H-P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

    Quoted message said:

    --

    Quoted message said:

    PS: Wright you are too stupid/obnoxious to even reply to. 🙂

    god invented the killfile for that moron. I think he is even to stupid to
    be a pharma shill--except unwittingly, you certainly wouldn't pay him.

    Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the
    idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.

    Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  8. "> Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the

    Quoted message said:

    idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.

    Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    Many of the cavies that lead to the loss of teeth come from poor
    nutrition and dental care during youth. Adult teeth as more resistant
    to decay. That John Gohde (aka Arnold Rimmer) is old tufwuss, doesn't mean
    he is wrong on all points. Besides we have not seen David Wrights mouth.

    You do know who Arnold Rimmer is, don't you?

    ---William Noyes

    Puppies start out toothless but then come the needle sharp
    teeth tobit mother, sibling, master, toy, and stranger.

    Quoted message said:


    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  9. William_Noyes said:

    "> Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the

    Quoted message said:

    idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.

    Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    Many of the cavies that lead to the loss of teeth come from poor
    nutrition and dental care during youth.

    My reply to this is that the same applies to smn's Alf. 🙂

    I was smarter than Alf, however. I did not wait until I almost died
    from my health condition. Or, end up with diabetes. 🙂

    Check out:
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Natural-Health

    Google is offering a new option. However, so far, Google is having a
    lot of server problems. It is a bran new Google option with a few
    brand new groups.
    --
    john gohde

  10. (David Wright) said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    PS: Wright you are too stupid/obnoxious to even reply to. 🙂

    god invented the killfile for that moron. I think he is even to stupid to
    be a pharma shill--except unwittingly, you certainly wouldn't pay him.

    Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the
    idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.

    Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    Let us not forget our very own toothless Alf. Or, do you suffer from
    cognitive problems, Mr. Wrong?

    I am now bringing you:
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Natural-Health

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

    A brand new Google group that will eventually end up as a new
    newsgroup.
    --
    john gohde

  11. In article <[email hidden]>,

    N-H-P said:
    William_Noyes said:

    "> Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the

    Quoted message said:

    idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.

    Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    Many of the cavies that lead to the loss of teeth come from poor
    nutrition and dental care during youth.

    My reply to this is that the same applies to smn's Alf. 🙂

    I was smarter than Alf, however. I did not wait until I almost died
    from my health condition. Or, end up with diabetes. 🙂

    However, it's too late to do anything about your brain damage, I fear.

    By the way, I have all my teeth (except for my wisdom teeth, which had
    to be extracted), and only one filling.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    N-H-P said:
    (David Wright) said:
    Quoted message said:

    > PS: Wright you are too stupid/obnoxious to even reply to. 🙂

    god invented the killfile for that moron. I think he is even to stupid to
    be a pharma shill--except unwittingly, you certainly wouldn't pay him.

    Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the
    idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.

    Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    Let us not forget our very own toothless Alf. Or, do you suffer from
    cognitive problems, Mr. Wrong?

    I don't read s.m.n, so if he's over there, I wouldn't know about it,
    Toothless John.

    Quoted message said:

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha!

    I do so enjoy the sound of your laughter echoing within your empty
    skull.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  13. (David Wright) said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >> PS: Wright you are too stupid/obnoxious to even reply to. 🙂
    >
    >god invented the killfile for that moron. I think he is even to stupid to
    >be a pharma shill--except unwittingly, you certainly wouldn't pay him.

    Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the
    idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.

    Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    Let us not forget our very own toothless Alf. Or, do you suffer from
    cognitive problems, Mr. Wrong?

    I don't read s.m.n, so if he's over there, I wouldn't know about it,
    Toothless John.

    Where there it is: Mr. Wrong don't know!

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Why am I not surprised about Mr. Wrong commenting on
    stuff he knows nothing about.
    --
    john gohde
    http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Natural-Health

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    N-H-P said:
    (David Wright) said:
    Quoted message said:

    > >> PS: Wright you are too stupid/obnoxious to even reply to. 🙂
    > >
    > >god invented the killfile for that moron. I think he is even to stupid to
    > >be a pharma shill--except unwittingly, you certainly wouldn't pay him.
    >
    > Scudamore has a habit of killfiling anyone who points out the
    > idiocies, falsehoods, and contradictions in his various postings.
    >
    > Meanwhile, Toothless John Gohde strikes me as a poor candidate to be
    > dispensing health advice -- unless you also aspire to be toothless.

    Let us not forget our very own toothless Alf. Or, do you suffer from
    cognitive problems, Mr. Wrong?

    I don't read s.m.n, so if he's over there, I wouldn't know about it,
    Toothless John.

    Where there it is: Mr. Wrong don't know!

    Gee, I am not up to date on the goings-on in newsgroups I don't read.
    What a surprise.

    Quoted message said:

    Ha, ... Hah, Ha! Why am I not surprised about Mr. Wrong commenting on
    stuff he knows nothing about.

    You know nothing about anything, but it never stops you from sounding
    off.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  15. In article <[email hidden]>,

    john said:

    http://www.healthmyths.net/rave.html

    "Rave". How appropriate.

    Quoted message said:

    Rogue Chemist Unleashes Pharmaceutical Secrets

    Myth #1 - FDA approved Drugs are Safe and Effective

    Often true. Not always, alas. Usually effective, not always safe.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #2 - Drug Advertising Promotes Health Awareness for Consumers

    Highly doubtful and I would doubt that most doctors like such
    advertising. I know that insurance plans hate it.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #3 - Pharmaceutical Drugs Improve the Quality of Human Life

    Yes, by keeping people from dying.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #4 - Professional Medicine Reporting is Honest and Trustworthy

    Honest but incomplete.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #5 - Nutritional Supplements (AKA Nutraceuticals) are Dangerous and
    Ineffective

    Often true, unless you're treating deficiency diseases.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #6 - High Cholesterol is a Major Risk Factor for Heart Disease

    Myth #7 Cholesterol is Bad for You

    For some, it is.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #8 - Cholesterol Lowering Drugs, known as Statins, are Safe and
    Effective at Preventing Heart Disease

    They are, overall. But whether that means they should be used for
    everyone is a different question.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #9 - Ephedra causes Heart Attack, Stroke and Seizures.

    Yep.

    Quoted message said:

    Myth #10 - Dieting is the Cure for Obesity

    As opposed to what? Overeating? Diet alone usually won't do it; you
    need to add exerise in there too.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  16. David Wright said:

    Often true. Not always, alas. Usually effective, not always safe.
    ...
    As opposed to what? Overeating? Diet alone usually won't do it; you
    need to add exerise in there too.

    You know nothing about anything, but it never
    stops you from sounding off.

    Just my opinion, but I am right as usual.
    --
    john gohde
    Google Beta Interface

  17. Yes, you are right, and Wright is wrong, as usual.

    It doesn't matter how many millions of people get killed by
    FDA-approved drugs, he loves 'em. Why? Maybe when he was in the eighth
    or ninth grade he learned about the scientific method, and it made an
    impression on him like a a baby duck imprints on its mother.
    ------------------------------------------------------
    Visit http://www.itsnotjustforsex.com

  18. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, you are right, and Wright is wrong, as usual.

    It doesn't matter how many millions of people get killed by
    FDA-approved drugs, he loves 'em. Why? Maybe when he was in the eighth
    or ninth grade he learned about the scientific method, and it made an
    impression on him like a a baby duck imprints on its mother.

    <sarcasm mode on>
    Now, that is what I call on target, cogent, to the point reasoning. I am
    impressed.
    <sarcasm mode off>

  19. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John 'the Man said:
    David Wright said:

    Often true. Not always, alas. Usually effective, not always safe.
    ...
    As opposed to what? Overeating? Diet alone usually won't do it; you
    need to add exerise in there too.

    You know nothing about anything, but it never
    stops you from sounding off.

    John, quoting what I said about you does not miraculously cause it to
    cease being true about you.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  20. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:

    Yes, you are right, and Wright is wrong, as usual.

    It doesn't matter how many millions of people get killed by
    FDA-approved drugs, he loves 'em. Why? Maybe when he was in the eighth
    or ninth grade he learned about the scientific method, and it made an
    impression on him like a a baby duck imprints on its mother.

    Now, now. Your envy that you *don't* understand it is very
    unbecoming to you. Try to accept your ignorance with good grace.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
    These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
    "If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
    were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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