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  1. Dear All,

    I am currently planning my route for a cycling trip on Friday. The
    route will go through Salisbury (on the A36) and I wish to join the A27
    just the other side of Portsmouth. The question is what is the best
    route through Southampton. Do I stick on the A27 all the way from where
    it crosses the A36 or do I stay on the A36 across the toll bridge (is
    there a cost for cycles?) onto the A33 then A3025 before rejoining the A27.

    Will be about 75 miles into the ride by Southampton and really don't
    want to get lost! Are there any other restrictions on this route that
    may hinder my progress?

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

    Gordon

  2. gjt70 said:

    Dear All,

    I am currently planning my route for a cycling trip on Friday. The
    route will go through Salisbury (on the A36) and I wish to join the A27
    just the other side of Portsmouth. The question is what is the best
    route through Southampton. Do I stick on the A27 all the way from where
    it crosses the A36 or do I stay on the A36 across the toll bridge (is
    there a cost for cycles?) onto the A33 then A3025 before rejoining the A27.

    Will be about 75 miles into the ride by Southampton and really don't
    want to get lost! Are there any other restrictions on this route that
    may hinder my progress?

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

    Its not a pretty journey that you are undertaking. The A36 from
    Salisbury is a busy fast road but in keeping with that I would be
    inclined to keep on the A36/A33 into Southampton via Millbrook, cross
    the Itchen Toll Bridge (free for cycles) and follow the A3025 Portsmouth
    Road through Burseldon to the A27.

    There are more scenic routes you could take but that would be further
    and require more complex navigation. One option to avoid Millbrook
    would be to go down to Hythe and catch the ferry into Southampton Centre
    and then take the Itchen Bridge out.

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  3. gjt70 said:

    Dear All,

    I am currently planning my route for a cycling trip on Friday. The
    route will go through Salisbury (on the A36

    I really wouldn't want to cycle along the A36. I'll admit to eschewing
    cyclepaths and to asserting my right to all roads but I think the A36
    would be a bit much even for me. It certainly won't be enjoyable.

    Quoted message said:

    and I wish to join the A27
    just the other side of Portsmouth. The question is what is the best
    route through Southampton. Do I stick on the A27 all the way from where
    it crosses the A36

    If your happy with the A36, you probably won't mind the A27. Be aware
    that just before it becomes the M27 it remains a M-way in all but name
    to the West of Soton.

    Quoted message said:

    or do I stay on the A36 across the toll bridge (is
    there a cost for cycles?) onto the A33 then A3025 before rejoining the A27.

    Don't know these A roads (and am too lazy to fire up the map) but a
    route worth considering is to take the toll bridge, head towards Hamble,
    take the Hamble ferry to Warsash and on to Titchfield (where I live).
    You can here either join a more relaxed part of the A27 (still DC in
    parts) or take the scenic route past my house and along the coast to
    Gosport. Then ferry to Pompey.

    In fact, I'd heartily recomend this route and you are welcome to drop in
    for a beer (although you are newish to urc, I'll accept 75 miles on the
    day as your credentials).

    Quoted message said:

    Will be about 75 miles into the ride by Southampton and really don't
    want to get lost! Are there any other restrictions on this route that
    may hinder my progress?

    Quoted message said:

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

    Gordon

  4. "Not Responding" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    gjt70 said:

    Dear All,

    I am currently planning my route for a cycling trip on Friday. The route
    will go through Salisbury (on the A36

    I really wouldn't want to cycle along the A36. I'll admit to eschewing
    cyclepaths and to asserting my right to all roads but I think the A36
    would be a bit much even for me. It certainly won't be enjoyable.

    Quoted message said:

    and I wish to join the A27 just the other side of Portsmouth. The
    question is what is the best route through Southampton. Do I stick on
    the A27 all the way from where it crosses the A36

    If your happy with the A36, you probably won't mind the A27. Be aware that
    just before it becomes the M27 it remains a M-way in all but name to the
    West of Soton.

    Quoted message said:

    or do I stay on the A36 across the toll bridge (is there a cost for
    cycles?) onto the A33 then A3025 before rejoining the A27.

    Don't know these A roads (and am too lazy to fire up the map) but a route
    worth considering is to take the toll bridge, head towards Hamble, take
    the Hamble ferry to Warsash and on to Titchfield (where I live).

    What is the hamble ferry like these days? I took it <mumble mumble> years
    ago to work every day with my bike balanced precariously across the front
    of a small motorboat, really just a row boat with an outboard. is it a
    'proper' ferry now?

    --
    Tumbleweed

    email replies not necessary but to contact use;
    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

  5. Tumbleweed said:


    What is the hamble ferry like these days? I took it <mumble mumble> years
    ago to work every day with my bike balanced precariously across the front
    of a small motorboat, really just a row boat with an outboard. is it a
    'proper' ferry now?

    http://www.hamble-warsashferry.co.uk/

    I think you are thinking of the Itser and its er....a row boat with an
    outboard. The others are row boats with outboards and a superstructure ;-)

    --
    Tony

    "I did make a mistake once - I thought I'd made a mistake but I hadn't"
    Anon

  6. Tony Raven said:
    Tumbleweed said:


    What is the hamble ferry like these days? I took it <mumble mumble>
    years ago to work every day with my bike balanced precariously across
    the front of a small motorboat, really just a row boat with an
    outboard. is it a 'proper' ferry now?

    http://www.hamble-warsashferry.co.uk/

    I think you are thinking of the Itser and its er....a row boat with an
    outboard. The others are row boats with outboards and a superstructure ;-)

    No, iirc, the Itser is a Rolls Royce compared to the boat it replaced a
    few years back.

    I may be remembering this all wrong but I'm fairly certain the original
    boat didn't have any central console and was genuinely a rowing boat
    with an outboard. In those days (less than 10 years ago) the ferryman
    was about 400 years old and boasted a beard that Captain Birdseye or
    Father Christmas or Sheldon Brown would have been proud of.

    A couple of years back the company changed hands - something that annoys
    me intensely as I'd always wanted to buy the business and do exactly as
    the new owners have done. Now, instead of a single ferry traipsing
    backwards and forwards on one route, the Hamble is criss-crossed with
    water taxis, water buses and ferries - all branded pink.

  7. gjt70 said:

    Dear All...

    Are you sure you want the A36? It's a busy road, much of it is dual
    carriageway. Ditto A27. I can recommend a much more peaceful route along
    some of the best lanes in Hampshire (West Dean, West Tytherley, Houghton,
    King's Somborne, Pitt) and then south through Twyford, Bishop's Waltham,
    Wickham and Southwick. Then over Portsdown Hill to Portsmouth. A little less
    direct, but very enjoyable.

    If you want to go through Southampton, Itchen bridge is free for cycles.

  8. "Tony Raven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Tumbleweed said:


    What is the hamble ferry like these days? I took it <mumble mumble> years
    ago to work every day with my bike balanced precariously across the
    front of a small motorboat, really just a row boat with an outboard. is
    it a 'proper' ferry now?

    http://www.hamble-warsashferry.co.uk/

    I think you are thinking of the Itser and its er....a row boat with an
    outboard. The others are row boats with outboards and a superstructure
    ;-)

    Thats the one, dont recall it being in T-Mobile colours though!

    --
    Tumbleweed

    email replies not necessary but to contact use;
    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

  9. "Not Responding" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Tony Raven said:
    Tumbleweed said:


    What is the hamble ferry like these days? I took it <mumble mumble>
    years ago to work every day with my bike balanced precariously across
    the front of a small motorboat, really just a row boat with an outboard.
    is it a 'proper' ferry now?

    http://www.hamble-warsashferry.co.uk/

    I think you are thinking of the Itser and its er....a row boat with an
    outboard. The others are row boats with outboards and a superstructure
    ;-)

    No, iirc, the Itser is a Rolls Royce compared to the boat it replaced a
    few years back.

    I may be remembering this all wrong but I'm fairly certain the original
    boat didn't have any central console and was genuinely a rowing boat with
    an outboard. In those days (less than 10 years ago) the ferryman was about
    400 years old and boasted a beard that Captain Birdseye or Father
    Christmas or Sheldon Brown would have been proud of.

    blimey, yes! I wasnt 100% sure about the outboard but I thought to myself
    'surely it cant have been someone rowing' so I thought it must have had an
    outboard. And yes, it was definitely captain birdseye! This was ...hmm,
    *substantially* more than 10 years ago hence my memory being a bit hazy.

    --
    Tumbleweed

    email replies not necessary but to contact use;
    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com> A couple of years back the company
    changed hands - something that annoys

    Quoted message said:

    me intensely as I'd always wanted to buy the business and do exactly as
    the new owners have done. Now, instead of a single ferry traipsing
    backwards and forwards on one route, the Hamble is criss-crossed with
    water taxis, water buses and ferries - all branded pink.

  10. "gjt70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dear All,

    I am currently planning my route for a cycling trip on Friday. The route
    will go through Salisbury (on the A36) and I wish to join the A27 just the
    other side of Portsmouth. The question is what is the best route through
    Southampton. Do I stick on the A27 all the way from where it crosses the
    A36 or do I stay on the A36 across the toll bridge (is there a cost for
    cycles?) onto the A33 then A3025 before rejoining the A27.

    Will be about 75 miles into the ride by Southampton and really don't want
    to get lost! Are there any other restrictions on this route that may
    hinder my progress?

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

    Gordon


    Avoid Southampton like the plague.

    Sticking to mainish roads:

    A36 out of Salisbury (There IS a route which you could use, away from the
    main road, to get out of Salisbury itself, but it's easy to take a wrong
    turn on that, so stick to the A36 for that bit, even though its not very
    nice)

    A27 branches left at a garage on a trafficlight junction, towards and
    through Whiteparish, to Romsey

    Left onto A3090 at Romsey (with A27)
    Left outside broadlands (Mountbattens place, roundabout in Romsey) then
    immediately right on next roundabout (towards Winchester, outside Plaza
    cinema)
    Right on small minirdbout after FIRST railway bridge (TV shop on corner,
    "Botley Road"😉, follow to end

    At Luzborough pub at end, left at Rdbout to North Baddesley (use the cycle
    track!!!)

    LEFT INTO CASTLE LANE IN NORTH BADDESLEY (not too obvious... it's the lights
    junction after North Baddesley crossroads, which also has lights)

    Follow signs to Eastleigh
    ... i.e right at end of Castle Lane (traffic lights) (you're in Valley
    Park)
    ... right at School Lane Ind Est rdbout
    ( there is power lines on masts to right, as a landmark)
    ... left at ASDA rdbout
    .... right at Leigh Rd Bournemouth Rd junction (Vauxhall Garage)

    Straight through Eastleigh (under motorway bridge, across Leigh Pub lights,
    straight across roundabout at end by church converted into flats), road
    swings right and left across railway bridge

    Straight on to Fair Oak (past bus garage .... beware SBL drivers!!! :o) )

    Left at Fair Oak traffic light at end, and right into Mortimers Lane
    (aiming for Bishops Waltham) (or left into Fair Oak itself, and left at Fair
    Oak Sq, then right into Mortimers Lane)

    At end of Mortimers Lane, right: onto old A333 (now
    Bsummatorriblewithfournumbers)

    Straight on through Bishops Waltham, through Waltham Chase, to Wickham

    LEFT INTO WICKHAM SQUARE (obvious place but not signposted to anywhere)

    Through square, follow "main" road round to right, under old rail bridge
    (Meon Valley Line) straight across at Wickham Church (take care - nasty
    Xroads)

    On A333 through North Boarhunt, past Southwick, up Portsdown Hill

    On very top of Portsdown Hill, (you'll recognise it!) left onto road that
    runs along crest of hill

    Follow this down long hill.past A3(M) bridge (aka "Jumpers Bridge !) to the
    end, into Havant, minirdbout on way

    Bedhampton Rail Sta - right across level crossing, follow road into Havant.

    Either right at Havant, then left onto Havant Bypass on roundabout (straight
    on would lead to Hayling Island), or left and right through centre of
    Havant, then road bend left (on old, original, A27 through Havant) to follow
    the old A27 till it meets the new A27 at the eastern end of havant.

    That should be a much more pleasant, and certainly safer, probably slightly
    shorter (not much in it) route, plenty of refreshment facilities on the
    way....

    HTH
    IanH

    At end of Mortimers Lane

  11. Thanks for the very main interesting and not surprisingly varied
    replies. Have not come to any definitive conclusion. However, I
    suspect that I will probably stay on the A36 and then cross the toll
    bridge. The ferry and beer route is certainly tempting but do not wish
    to be reliant on other forms of transport (especially motorised ones!).

    The total ride is from a couple of miles south of Bristol to near Bognor
    Regis (west sussex). Around 130 miles!

    Many thanks,

    Gordon

    gjt70 said:

    Dear All,

    I am currently planning my route for a cycling trip on Friday. The
    route will go through Salisbury (on the A36) and I wish to join the A27
    just the other side of Portsmouth. The question is what is the best
    route through Southampton. Do I stick on the A27 all the way from where
    it crosses the A36 or do I stay on the A36 across the toll bridge (is
    there a cost for cycles?) onto the A33 then A3025 before rejoining the A27.

    Will be about 75 miles into the ride by Southampton and really don't
    want to get lost! Are there any other restrictions on this route that
    may hinder my progress?

    Any advice would be gratefully received.

    Gordon

  12. "gjt70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the very main interesting and not surprisingly varied replies.
    Have not come to any definitive conclusion. However, I suspect that I
    will probably stay on the A36 and then cross the toll bridge. The ferry
    and beer route is certainly tempting but do not wish to be reliant on
    other forms of transport (especially motorised ones!).

    The total ride is from a couple of miles south of Bristol to near Bognor
    Regis (west sussex). Around 130 miles!

    Many thanks,

    Gordon

    in one go? respect :-)

    --
    Tumbleweed

    email replies not necessary but to contact use;
    tumbleweednews at hotmail dot com

  13. "gjt70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the very main interesting and not surprisingly varied replies.

    A pleasure.

    Nice to know there are *some* decent cyclists about.

    --
    IanH

  14. ian henden said:


    "gjt70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the very main interesting and not surprisingly varied replies.

    A pleasure.

    Nice to know there are *some* decent cyclists about.

    And some enlightened bus drivers.

    Yesterday the driver of the bus I was on told me he had just bought
    three bikes for himself and his family as it was such a better means of
    transport ;-)

    John B

  15. "JohnB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    ian henden said:


    "gjt70" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Thanks for the very main interesting and not surprisingly varied
    replies.

    A pleasure.

    Nice to know there are *some* decent cyclists about.

    And some enlightened bus drivers.

    Yesterday the driver of the bus I was on told me he had just bought
    three bikes for himself and his family as it was such a better means of
    transport ;-)

    John B

    It wasn't me. Guv!!! (used *that* phrase before!!)

    But I *do* confess to owning a bike..... :o(

    --
    IanH

  16. JohnB said:

    And some enlightened bus drivers.

    Yesterday the driver of the bus I was on told me he had just bought
    three bikes for himself and his family as it was such a better means of
    transport ;-)

    I had one of them day before yesterday. Pootling along the A23
    towards my version of The Nut Mines, a bus overtook me, leaving a
    _huge_ amount of space, enough indeed, to get a bus through.

    Tim

  17. Tim Hall said:

    I had one of them day before yesterday. Pootling along the A23 towards my
    version of The Nut Mines

    Tim, those are the Nut Mines. Connected by a secret underground passage.
    The Evil Squirrels rule the world.

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