RR: 4th Outing

Craig Brossman thoughtfully penned:> P.S. This is my first attempt at posting pics, I have not
found pbase

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easy to use. The other bigger problem I have is that many of my shots are taken at a resolution
larger than is appropriate for web display,
w/o Photoshop or some equivalent, I don't know how to reduce the picture size and resolution? I
would like to always take shots at the max. res., but need a quick and easy way to throttle them
down for the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated.

your digi cam should have come with some sort of basic editing software...

Penny

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The Mrs., myself and another married, much younger couple did a ride on

the

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4th this year. The traditional Fourth of July ride in these parts is up

over

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Kenebec Pass and back down the Colorado trail. Some 40+ miles, something like 5K total elevation
gain, blah blah blah. Well, the wives wanted to go so we decided to tone it back a bit.

The ride is only 17 miles, but it was the toughest 17 miles I've ever

done.

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It starts near 11K feet, climbs to 11.6, drops back a couple of hundred

and

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up over 12.1. Net gain for this shuttle is -300 feet, but we only dropped below 11K in the last
3 miles.

Some technical sections, many small alpine stream crossings, lots of climbing, no bears or
cougars. Despite the burning in our lungs and sweat

on

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our brow, you just couldn't beat the scenery.

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P.S. This is my first attempt at posting pics, I have not found pbase easy to use. The other
bigger problem I have is that many of my shots are taken at a resolution larger than is
appropriate for web display, w/o Photoshop

or

Quoted message said:

some equivalent, I don't know how to reduce the picture size and

resolution?

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I would like to always take shots at the max. res., but need a quick and easy way to throttle them
down for the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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A pretty simple package for resizing photos in batch is Graphic Workshop available here
mindworkshop.comgwspro.htmlOpen ↗

You just select the images you want to scale and scale them either by a percentage of original size
or to a preset screen resolution. It doens't do as good a job as compressing them as much as
Photoshop save for Web command does, but it gets them smaller in both screen and physical data size.

Michael

"Craig Brossman" <[email hidden]> wrote

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P.S. This is my first attempt at posting pics, I have not found pbase easy to use. The other
bigger problem I have is that many of my shots are taken at a resolution larger than is
appropriate for web display, w/o Photoshop

or

Quoted message said:

some equivalent, I don't know how to reduce the picture size and

resolution?

Quoted message said:

I would like to always take shots at the max. res., but need a quick and easy way to throttle them
down for the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Three staples: Irfanview www.irfanview.com excellent free image viewer, and basic photo manipulation

PaintShop Pro www.jasc.com Free tryout version for download. ver 8 is ~$99 15% of the cost, 90% of
the capability of PhotoShop.

Gimp www.gimp.com free, open source. Interface is a little weird, though.

Pete
P.S. always work on a copy of the original image.

"Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Three staples: Irfanview www.irfanview.com excellent free image viewer, and basic photo
manipulation

PaintShop Pro www.jasc.com Free tryout version for download. ver 8 is

~$99

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15% of the cost, 90% of the capability of PhotoShop.

Gimp www.gimp.com free, open source. Interface is a little weird, though.

Pete
P.S. always work on a copy of the original image.

oops...make that www.gimp.org

Pete

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The Mrs., myself and another married, much younger couple did a ride on the 4th this year. The
traditional Fourth of July ride in these parts is up over Kenebec Pass and back down the Colorado
trail. Some 40+ miles, something like 5K total elevation gain, blah blah blah. Well, the wives
wanted to go so we decided to tone it back a bit.

The ride is only 17 miles, but it was the toughest 17 miles I've ever done. It starts near 11K
feet, climbs to 11.6, drops back a couple of hundred and up over 12.1. Net gain for this shuttle
is -300 feet, but we only dropped below 11K in the last 3 miles.

Some technical sections, many small alpine stream crossings, lots of climbing, no bears or
cougars. Despite the burning in our lungs and sweat on our brow, you just couldn't beat the
scenery.

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Craig Brossman said:

The ride is only 17 miles, but it was the toughest 17 miles I've ever done. It starts near 11K
feet, climbs to 11.6, drops back a couple of hundred and up over 12.1. Net gain for this shuttle
is -300 feet, but we only dropped below 11K in the last 3 miles.

Dang, wish we had stuff that high this side of the Rockies. Your pics are no problem for
broadband, btw.

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The Mrs., myself and another married, much younger couple did a ride on the 4th this year. The
traditional Fourth of July ride in these parts is up over Kenebec Pass and back down the Colorado
trail. Some 40+ miles, something like 5K total elevation gain, blah blah blah. Well, the wives
wanted to go so we decided to tone it back a bit.

pbase.comctatmolasOpen ↗

P.S. This is my first attempt at posting pics, I have not found pbase easy to use. The other
bigger problem I have is that many of my shots are taken at a resolution larger than is
appropriate for web display, w/o Photoshop or some equivalent, I don't know how to reduce the
picture size and resolution? I would like to always take shots at the max. res., but need a
quick and easy way to throttle them down for the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated.

SUPERB! How awesome to ride stuff like that with your wife. I just had a heart-to-heart talk with my
wife about her getting back into A-Team condition to go out with us like she did in past years.
We'll see.

Paladin

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Quoted message said:

The Mrs., myself and another married, much younger couple did a ride on

the

Quoted message said:

4th this year. The traditional Fourth of July ride in these parts is up

over

Quoted message said:

Kenebec Pass and back down the Colorado trail. Some 40+ miles, something like 5K total elevation
gain, blah blah blah. Well, the wives wanted to go so we decided to tone it back a bit.

The ride is only 17 miles, but it was the toughest 17 miles I've ever

done.

Quoted message said:

It starts near 11K feet, climbs to 11.6, drops back a couple of hundred

and

Quoted message said:

up over 12.1. Net gain for this shuttle is -300 feet, but we only dropped below 11K in the last
3 miles.

Some technical sections, many small alpine stream crossings, lots of climbing, no bears or
cougars. Despite the burning in our lungs and sweat

on

Quoted message said:

our brow, you just couldn't beat the scenery.

pbase.comctatmolasOpen ↗

P.S. This is my first attempt at posting pics, I have not found pbase easy to use. The other
bigger problem I have is that many of my shots are taken at a resolution larger than is
appropriate for web display, w/o Photoshop

or

Quoted message said:

some equivalent, I don't know how to reduce the picture size and

resolution?

Quoted message said:

I would like to always take shots at the max. res., but need a quick and easy way to throttle them
down for the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated.

Your pics and the countryside both look fantastic! That reminds me of several of our higher rides
around here, yet the skyline is different. he last one reminds me of John Fielder shot. Great
composition and perspective. Nice job!

As for editing, I second Pete's recommendation of PaintShop Pro. I use it all the time. I great $99
spent. There's probably also something bundled with your camera as Penny mentioned, but I've found
most of those to be [censored].

Matt (take me on a ride like that when I come...)

"Craig Brossman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

The Mrs., myself and another married, much younger couple did a ride on

the

Quoted message said:

4th this year. The traditional Fourth of July ride in these parts is up

over

Quoted message said:

Kenebec Pass and back down the Colorado trail. Some 40+ miles, something like 5K total elevation
gain, blah blah blah. Well, the wives wanted to go so we decided to tone it back a bit.

The ride is only 17 miles, but it was the toughest 17 miles I've ever

done.

Quoted message said:

It starts near 11K feet, climbs to 11.6, drops back a couple of hundred

and

Quoted message said:

up over 12.1. Net gain for this shuttle is -300 feet, but we only dropped below 11K in the last
3 miles.

Some technical sections, many small alpine stream crossings, lots of climbing, no bears or
cougars. Despite the burning in our lungs and sweat

on

Quoted message said:

our brow, you just couldn't beat the scenery.

pbase.comctatmolasOpen ↗

P.S. This is my first attempt at posting pics, I have not found pbase easy to use. The other
bigger problem I have is that many of my shots are taken at a resolution larger than is
appropriate for web display, w/o Photoshop

or

Quoted message said:

some equivalent, I don't know how to reduce the picture size and

resolution?

Quoted message said:

I would like to always take shots at the max. res., but need a quick and easy way to throttle them
down for the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove .nospam. if replying)

A good less expensive altenative to photoshop is paintshop pro. Easy to use and has some good
advanced features if you're willing to learn. It can be had on the cheap if you look through those
single cd bins of old software at a best buy or equivalent. New I think it's between $70-90.

Chris

"Craig Brossman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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The Mrs., myself and another married, much younger couple did a ride on

the

Quoted message said:

4th this year. The traditional Fourth of July ride in these parts is up

over

Quoted message said:

Kenebec Pass and back down the Colorado trail. Some 40+ miles, something like 5K total elevation
gain, blah blah blah. Well, the wives wanted to go so we decided to tone it back a bit.

The ride is only 17 miles, but it was the toughest 17 miles I've ever

done.

Quoted message said:

It starts near 11K feet, climbs to 11.6, drops back a couple of hundred

and

Quoted message said:

up over 12.1. Net gain for this shuttle is -300 feet, but we only dropped below 11K in the last
3 miles.

Some technical sections, many small alpine stream crossings, lots of climbing, no bears or
cougars. Despite the burning in our lungs and sweat

on

Quoted message said:

our brow, you just couldn't beat the scenery.

pbase.comctatmolasOpen ↗

P.S. This is my first attempt at posting pics, I have not found pbase easy to use. The other
bigger problem I have is that many of my shots are taken at a resolution larger than is
appropriate for web display, w/o Photoshop

or

Quoted message said:

some equivalent, I don't know how to reduce the picture size and

resolution?

Quoted message said:

I would like to always take shots at the max. res., but need a quick and easy way to throttle them
down for the internet. Any suggestions are appreciated.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove .nospam. if replying)

Mouth open, jaw on the floor.

Absoloutely superb pictures.

Thanks

Steve E.

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your digi cam should have come with some sort of basic editing software...

Penny

It does, but nothing to change the resolution.
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"Paladin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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SUPERB! How awesome to ride stuff like that with your wife. I just had a heart-to-heart talk with
my wife about her getting back into A-Team condition to go out with us like she did in past years.
We'll see.

Paladin

Thanks. After a particularly long technical section near the top, she said she will never do that
ride again. The next day she said maybe again next year. Funny how you forget the bad (read tough)
parts so quickly.
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As for editing, I second Pete's recommendation of PaintShop Pro. I use it all the time. I great
$99 spent. There's probably also something bundled with your camera as Penny mentioned, but I've
found most of those to be [censored].

Matt (take me on a ride like that when I come...)

That is what I have with the camera, [censored]. I can do all sorts of "enhancements", digital effects I
guess, but nothing to prepare them for the web.

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Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado (remove .nospam. if replying)

Craig Brossman said:

After a particularly long technical section near the top, she said she will never do that ride
again. The next day she said maybe again next year. Funny how you forget the bad (read tough)
parts so quickly.

:-). I used to have a great ability to forget half the climbs in a route.
It would keep me doing more than I expected to, and amuse my friends no end.

Let's go this way, there aren't too many climbs ...

Craig Brossman thoughtfully penned:

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"MattB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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As for editing, I second Pete's recommendation of PaintShop Pro. I use it all the time. I great
$99 spent. There's probably also something bundled with your camera as Penny mentioned, but I've
found most of those to be [censored].

Matt (take me on a ride like that when I come...)

That is what I have with the camera, [censored]. I can do all sorts of "enhancements", digital effects I
guess, but nothing to prepare them for the web.

I had paint shop pro gave it away as it seemed to be redundant with PhotoShop.

I assume you are referring to function similar to the "save for web" action in PS? This is kind of
nice because you can choose a 4-up view of various levels of compression (?) and file size
specifically for web viewing.

Doesn't PhotoShop have a kind of dumbed-down version ( Picture It might be the name?) that should do
a lot of the same things without all fancy stuff?

Penny

"Penny S." <[email hidden]> wrote

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Doesn't PhotoShop have a kind of dumbed-down version ( Picture It might

be

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the name?) that should do a lot of the same things without all fancy

stuff?

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PhotoShop 'Elements'. I believe it's ~$100

Pete

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Craig Brossman said:

After a particularly long technical section near the top, she said she

will

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never do that ride again. The next day she said maybe again next year. Funny how you forget the
bad (read tough) parts so quickly.

:-). I used to have a great ability to forget half the climbs in a route.
It would keep me doing more than I expected to, and amuse my friends no

end.

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Let's go this way, there aren't too many climbs ...

I do that too. I think it's human nature.

"It's all downhill from here! (almost)"

Matt

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"Penny S." <[email hidden]> wrote

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Doesn't PhotoShop have a kind of dumbed-down version ( Picture It might

be

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the name?) that should do a lot of the same things without all fancy

stuff?

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PhotoShop 'Elements'. I believe it's ~$100

Pete

Yeah, you definitely don't need PaintShop if you have Photoshop. It's just much cheaper for most the
same functionality.

I've never used PhotoShop Elements, so I can't say if it's any good or not.

Matt

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"higb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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Let's go this way, there aren't too many climbs ...

I do that too. I think it's human nature.

"It's all downhill from here! (almost)"

Matt

I think it is the same gene in women which allow them to have a 2nd, 3rd and so on child, but
probably stronger (in women).

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