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"runner's knee" (chondromalacia patella)

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  1. After many years of running, marathons, and triathlons, I've been diagnosed with chondromalacia
    patella, a softening of the cartilege under the kneecap, a.k.a. runner's knee. It is a fairly
    advanced case, and the only thing my orthopedist can recommend other than possible arthroscopic
    surgery is many months of physical therapy exercises to strengthen the quads, hamstrings, and other
    muscles around the kneecap. I haven't run for a year, but the knee pain has continued unabated,
    walking down stairs, sitting in one position for too long, etc.. I'm trying not to be pessimistic,
    but I've been very worried about the possibility that I might never be able to run again. This
    would be a really hard pill for me to swallow, since running has been an important part of my life
    for two decades.

    Has anyone in this group ever had chondromalacia and actually overcome it, or have any
    recommendations on how to do so?

    Thanks, Kip

  2. "Kip Baranoff" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    After many years of running, marathons, and triathlons, I've been diagnosed with chondromalacia
    patella, a softening of the cartilege under the kneecap, a.k.a. runner's knee. It is a fairly
    advanced case, and the only thing my orthopedist can recommend other than possible arthroscopic
    surgery is many months of physical therapy exercises to strengthen the quads, hamstrings, and
    other muscles around the kneecap. I haven't run for a year, but the knee pain has continued
    unabated, walking down stairs, sitting in one position for too long, etc.. I'm trying not to be
    pessimistic, but I've been very worried about the possibility that I might never be able to run
    again. This would be a really hard pill for me to swallow, since running has been an important
    part of my life for two decades.

    Has anyone in this group ever had chondromalacia and actually overcome it, or have any
    recommendations on how to do so?


    Sorry to hear of your problem. At least you have not completely ruined your knees as a few exrunners
    have done.

    Why not pin down what works to protect your knee from damage? You need to do this anyway, in order
    to run again, no matter what decision you make.

    Crosstraining, running form review and adjustment, review of running schedule, choice of surface,
    shoe selection ....

    In my case, I backed off early, strengthened the VMO with short-arc squats, and now have to stop
    running on occasion due to a sore calf muscle or some other malady, but the knees feel great. For
    longevity, I avoid long runs on pavement if possible and include preventive maintenance in my
    crosstraining.

    Links, if still current:

    Links: clinicalsportsmedicine.com24c.htm
    emedicine.comtopic96.htm aafp.org2012.html
    barefootscience.neta cover.html

    Causes: road camber, overstriding, insufficient recovery, relatively weak VMO (quadricep that
    crosses the knee joint medial to the patella) and other asymmetries, high impact running form, wrong
    shoe choice,. . ., as well as structural anomalies.

    BTW, the weak VMO, vastus medialis oblique, that leads to improper patella tracking and soreness,
    usually responds well to simple physical training. A shallow(short-arc) one-legged squat, building
    up to two sets of 60 reps seems to emphasize the VMO the most.

    From: emedicine.comtopic96.htm

    Physical Therapy: Conservative treatment is successful in 80% of cases. The goal of treatment is to
    control the symptoms. ? Start by having the patient modify his/her activity level. Decrease
    activities that increase patellofemoral pressure (eg, jumping, squatting, kneeling). Gentle
    eccentric loading activities may be initiated. ? Apply ice for 10-15 minutes, 4-6 times per day,
    especially after activity. ? Increase muscle strength, especially VMO, with short-arc quadriceps
    sets, knee presses, isometric quadriceps sets. Biofeedback may aid in teaching recruitment of the
    VMO. ? Improve flexibility of the hamstrings, vastus lateralis, and iliotibial band. Stretch tight
    retinacular structures. ? Initiate proprioceptive exercises. ? Ultrasound or phonophoresis may
    decrease pain symptoms. ? A patellofemoral brace with a patella cutout and lateral stabilizer or
    McConnell taping may improve patellar tracking and provide stability through augmentation of
    proprioception. See: clinicalsportsmedicine.com24c.htm ? Provide arch supports
    or orthotics to correct foot malalignments. [And why not use off the shelf inserts, since there is
    very little science to it anyway?] Recreational Therapy: Avoid exacerbating activity (eg, deep knee
    bends, stair climbing, hiking). Initiate a home therapy program of flexibility, strengthening, and
    proprioceptive exercises. Eccentric loading activities may be initiated.

    Re: "Pain behind the knee cap in runners is often treated with special inserts in shoes. When you
    run, you land on the outside bottom part of your foot and roll toward the inside. This causes the
    lower leg to twist inward at the same time that the knee cap is pulled by the quadriceps muscle in
    the opposite direction. This causes the knee cap to rub against the long bone of the upper leg.
    Special inserts can be placed in running shoes that limit rolling in of the foot and prevent knee
    cap pain. "

    The typical prescription of orthotics includes too little attention to other factors that may be
    more important and needs to be part of an integrated approach not done in isolation.

    Causes: road camber, overstriding, insufficient recovery, relatively weak VMO and other asymmetries,
    high impact running form, wrong shoe choice,. . ., as well as structural anomalies.

    BTW, the weak VMO, vastus medialis oblique, that leads to improper patella tracking and soreness,
    usually responds well to simple physical training. For some, spinning helps; however, a shallow(short-
    arc) one-legged squat, building up to two sets of 60 reps seems to emphasize the VMO the most.

    From: emedicine.comtopic96.htm

    Physical Therapy: Conservative treatment is successful in 80% of cases. The goal of treatment is to
    control the symptoms. ? Start by having the patient modify his/her activity level. Decrease
    activities that increase patellofemoral pressure (eg, jumping, squatting, kneeling). Gentle
    eccentric loading activities may be initiated. ? Apply ice for 10-15 minutes, 4-6 times per day,
    especially after activity. ? Increase muscle strength, especially VMO, with short-arc quadriceps
    sets, knee presses, isometric quadriceps sets, and straight leg raises with the leg externally
    rotated. Biofeedback may aid in teaching recruitment of the
    VMO.? Improve flexibility of the hamstrings, vastus lateralis, and iliotibial band. Stretch tight
    retinacular structures. ? Initiate proprioceptive exercises. ? Ultrasound or phonophoresis may
    decrease pain symptoms. ? A patellofemoral brace with a patella cutout and lateral stabilizer or
    McConnell taping may improve patellar tracking and provide stability through augmentation of
    proprioception. See: clinicalsportsmedicine.com24c.htm ? Provide arch
    supports or orthotics to correct foot malalignments. [And why not use off the shelf inserts,
    since there is very little science to it anyway?] Recreational Therapy: Avoid exacerbating
    activity (eg, deep knee bends, stair climbing, hiking). Initiate a home therapy program of
    flexibility, strengthening, and proprioceptive exercises. Eccentric loading activities may be
    initiated.

    clinicalsportsmedicine.com24c.htm emedicine.comtopic96.htm
    aafp.org2012.html
    barefootscience.neta cover.html

  3. i have being suffering from chondromalacia patella from past year.medicines dont help much ,but stationary cycle and slow walking is helpful.
    i feel no pain and think it is better than surgery

    when you get up in the morning always think ""i am okay""i will walk an extra mile today.
    Thanks Pari

  4. After I began experiencing acute pain in my right knee due to running, I started cycling as my primary form of cardio. It helped tons! Swimming is also a great way to exercise with resistance and long, circular movements. I suggest getting down to he local river and swimming against the current.

  5. good to read somebody sounding positive inspite of discomfort and pain .

  6. Do much more<Maybe it is greatful for somebody.But it is need to take care

  7. Kip,

    I wonder how your situation worked out. I too have the same problem and have had to give up running and triathlons. I still morn that loss frequently. I tried to walk several tri's but my knee pain will not allow it. It is Aquabikes for me. I hope one day there will be a solution. You are not alone.

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