Runners live longer

R Walter said:

A mad passing, Dr. Ralph Paffenbarber, (gesundheit) who failed to document the >benefit
of running on longevity, croaked-off recently. He showed that moderate
exercise (2 miles per week) could increase your life span by several
hours if you don't get run over, rabies from animal bites, or shot by an irate husband. >His rule of thumb - - each hour of exercise will give you 2-3
extra hours of life outrunning irate husbands. He also took his own advice: he started >running at
age 45, and eventually ran .22 Boston marathons (and many others he also never >finished). He
passed away at age 46, after being hit by a bus while running, driven by an irate >husband.

See the link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-paffenbargerSPLATbyBUS.jpg

A similar link on Hal Higdon's website:http://www.halhigdon.com/Articles/longevity.htm

R Walter said:

A sad passing, Dr. Ralph Paffenbarber, who first documented the benefit
of running on longevity, died recently. He showed that moderate
exercise (20 miles per week) could increase your life span by several
years. His rule of thumb - - each hour of exercise will give you 2-3
extra hours of life. He also took his own advice: he started running at
age 45, and eventually ran 22 Boston marathons (and many others). He
passed away at age 84.

See the link:

I bet many people would gladly give up two hours of life at the end to
escape an hour of running. And these are only averages anyway. It
doesn't mean YOU will gain anything. Studies show that the greatest
gain comes with the first increment of exercise. So if a person can
find something that does a little as they age, they should get the
best result for the least work. If they can find something they like,
all the better.
I hope this doesn't crowd my park with runners now.

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A sad passing, Dr. Ralph Paffenbarber, who first documented the benefit
of running on longevity, died recently. He showed that moderate
exercise (20 miles per week) could increase your life span by several
years. His rule of thumb - - each hour of exercise will give you 2-3
extra hours of life. He also took his own advice: he started running
at age 45, and eventually ran 22 Boston marathons (and many others).
He passed away at age 84.

The evidence that one lives a longer if they exercise holds true over
big numbers of people. OTOH, if people's primary reasons take up
running/exercise is to live longer, well I have a bridge to sell them.
Genetics, diseases, jealous husbands and even bad drivers can send you
to premature resting place.

Exercise will increase your odds but I look at it as quality of life
while I'm still breathing regardless of my number if years. Science
has found lots of ways to keep us alive even while we abuse ourselves.

I have a house full of the wife's sisters staying with us and they are
60-70 yars old. None have ever exercsed and take about 4 pills a day
for High Blood pressure, etc. I take nothing at least yet.

-Doug

I kind of secretly hope Dr. P's conclusions are true,
but that wouldnt affect my reason for running.
I run for the immediate pleasure it gives me-
good feeling of having your body operate at
high capacity.

I think another major conclusion of Dr. P's and other
Stanford and Dallas studies is that a substantial increase
in health benefits comes from the first 1,000 to 2,000
calories (10-20 miles) of aerobic exercise a week.
Only about a fifth americans have this exercise level.
If most Americans did this it would cut US health
costs substantially.

R Walter said:

A sad passing, Dr. Ralph Paffenbarber, who first documented the benefit
of running on longevity, died recently. He showed that moderate
exercise (20 miles per week) could increase your life span by several
years. His rule of thumb - - each hour of exercise will give you 2-3
extra hours of life. He also took his own advice: he started running at
age 45, and eventually ran 22 Boston marathons (and many others). He
passed away at age 84.

See the link:

http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-paffenbarger15jul15,0,6965558.story?coll=la-home-obituaries.

A similar link on Hal Higdon's website:
http://www.halhigdon.com/Articles/longevity.htm

I seem to keep hearing that we may not live a greater number of years
but that we will be mobile and relatively healthier than
non-exercisers up to "the end". And that our "decline" won't drag on
as long (?). I think Dr. Monte deals with this in one of his
podcasts at www.fitnessrocks.org - the link if you like to listen to
stuff:
http://drmonte.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=184586

Also see on "compression of morbidity":
http://aramis.stanford.edu/downloads/2000FriesV1584.pdf

But this one:
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/338/15/1035
concludes, "Smoking, body-mass index, and exercise patterns in midlife
and late adulthood are predictors of subsequent disability. Not only
do persons with better health habits survive longer, but in such
persons, disability is postponed and compressed into fewer years at
the end of life."
--
Daniel ( [email hidden] )

Al Bundy said:

I hope this doesn't crowd my park with runners now.

Fat chance. As you observe there's an inordinate degree of
gravitational attraction between the couch and the human ass!

rick++ said:

I think another major conclusion of Dr. P's and other
Stanford and Dallas studies is that a substantial increase
in health benefits comes from the first 1,000 to 2,000
calories (10-20 miles) of aerobic exercise a week.
Only about a fifth americans have this exercise level.
If most Americans did this it would cut US health
costs substantially.

Sorry to be off topic here but.. I've seen this study quoted by many
people here. Could anyone please mention a source (website or a book)
for the results of this study? I'm interested in the research done by
Dr. Cooper and/or others on amount of exercise and benefits.

Thanks.

Quoted message said:

rick++ said:

I think another major conclusion of Dr. P's and other
Stanford and Dallas studies is that a substantial increase
in health benefits comes from the first 1,000 to 2,000
calories (10-20 miles) of aerobic exercise a week.
Only about a fifth americans have this exercise level.
If most Americans did this it would cut US health
costs substantially.

Sorry to be off topic here but.. I've seen this study quoted by many
people here. Could anyone please mention a source (website or a book)
for the results of this study? I'm interested in the research done by
Dr. Cooper and/or others on amount of exercise and benefits.

Thanks.

As I told DF one time, it's not incumbent on us to do your research
for you. Longevity studies have been going on forever. I've never seen
any where the sedentary lifestyle helped people live longer. Google
and some of the studies will come up. One was the famous Framingham
study.
"...Framingham Heart Study, found that those who expended 2,000
calories per week had an increased life expectancy of 2 years. This
means that a person who walks briskly for about 8 miles a week will
live considerably longer than his counterpart with the same lifestyle
who doesn't exercise regularly."

rick++ said:

I kind of secretly hope Dr. P's conclusions are true,
but that wouldnt affect my reason for running.
I run for the immediate pleasure it gives me-
good feeling of having your body operate at
high capacity.

If only it would help you not be an idiot.

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Al Bundy said:

I hope this doesn't crowd my park with runners now.

Fat chance. As you observe there's an inordinate degree of
gravitational attraction between the couch and the human ass!

In scientific terms it is called inertia - an object at rest, stays at
rest. 😉

-DF

Doug Freese said:

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Quoted message said:

A sad passing, Dr. Ralph Paffenbarber, who first documented the benefit
of running on longevity, died recently. He showed that moderate
exercise (20 miles per week) could increase your life span by several
years. His rule of thumb - - each hour of exercise will give you 2-3
extra hours of life. He also took his own advice: he started running
at age 45, and eventually ran 22 Boston marathons (and many others).
He passed away at age 84.

The evidence that one lives a longer if they exercise holds true over
big numbers of people. OTOH, if people's primary reasons take up
running/exercise is to live longer, well I have a bridge to sell them.
Genetics, diseases, jealous husbands and even bad drivers can send you
to premature resting place.

Exercise will increase your odds but I look at it as quality of life
while I'm still breathing regardless of my number if years. Science
has found lots of ways to keep us alive even while we abuse ourselves.

I have a house full of the wife's sisters staying with us and they are
60-70 yars old. None have ever exercsed and take about 4 pills a day
for High Blood pressure, etc. I take nothing at least yet.

-Doug

maybe if you didnt hang around with so many women you'd actually grow
some macho intensity

In article <[email hidden]>,

Doug Freese said:

In scientific terms it is called inertia - an object at rest, stays
at rest. 😉

Too bad that the opposite doesn't apply to running--an object in motion
stays in motion. It would make it so much easier. <g>

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:55:55 -0700, Al Bundy <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

As I told DF one time, it's not incumbent on us to do your research
for you. Longevity studies have been going on forever. I've never seen
any where the sedentary lifestyle helped people live longer. Google
and some of the studies will come up. One was the famous Framingham
study.
"...Framingham Heart Study, found that those who expended 2,000
calories per week had an increased life expectancy of 2 years. This
means that a person who walks briskly for about 8 miles a week will
live considerably longer than his counterpart with the same lifestyle
who doesn't exercise regularly."

ie: the dumbass has no study, and is full of [censored].

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Michelle said:

Doug said:

In scientific terms it is called inertia - an object at rest,
stays at rest. 😉

Too bad that the opposite doesn't apply to running--an object in
motion stays in motion.

Oh it does. Another year or two, you'll be getting out the door
practically automatically and if you miss a couple days you'll be
climbing the walls.

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Charlie Pendejo said:

Quoted message said:

Too bad that the opposite doesn't apply to running--an object in
motion stays in motion.

Oh it does. Another year or two, you'll be getting out the door
practically automatically and if you miss a couple days you'll be
climbing the walls.

I'm already getting antsy if I miss a day. So I make sure not to miss
any days. <g>

By the way, your estimates are still holding true.

--
Crossing the starting line is 90%.
Crossing the finish line is the other 90%.

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:20:04 -0700, Michelle <[email hidden]>

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By the way, your estimates are still holding true.

The one where he estimated you could eat another chics hooch for 3
hours?

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maybe if you didnt hang around with so many women you'd actually grow
some macho intensity

My unfit relatives aside, all the women that I run with could dust your
whinny, pansy ass in running AND hiking. I'd be willing to bet you
couldn't you even stay close to this old man. So if macho intensity is
your dogma, you might want to think about a sex change, cuz your not
measuring up.

-DF