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  1. Hi Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross
    country running also. I have been recovering for months with
    an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i used to
    be. I used to run for miles & all was ok. My mother &
    grandmother, bith had this problem of circulation & itching,
    especially when getting back into walking, running.

    The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body
    starts to get hot, my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs &
    feet begin to go red & itch & i get nauseous, the urge to
    scratch is terrible & end up with severe bruising through
    scratching, nail marks! This happens mostly when going down
    hill. This doesn't happen at all in cycling. This feeling is
    terrible, but it seems to subside the more i run, not more
    distance, but the more short distances regularly. For
    example, before i went away to work abroad, i was jogging 3
    miles a night to get fit & this never affected me! Does
    anyone have an explination for this! Thanks Gary

  2. gary said:

    The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body
    starts to get hot, my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs &
    feet begin to go red & itch & i get nauseous, the urge to
    scratch is terrible & end up with severe bruising through
    scratching, nail marks!

    You might want to google "exercise induced urticaria OR
    hives". There are probably also threads in this ng about
    this, too. Here's a URL to get you started:

    aafp.org1367.html

    I developed hives five or ten minutes after running four
    times over a period of a couple years, the last two times
    only a couple weeks apart. Finally (at my goodwife's
    urging), I went to an allergist, who tested me for food
    allergies (40 pinpricks for 40 foods). I turned out to have
    (developed) an allergy to beef and tomatoes--and could
    correlate that with what I had eaten the last two times I
    got hives. (I can't recall what I ate the other times.)

    Since then, no beef or tomatoes six hours before running,
    and I've not had any recurrences (except once, when I ate
    two large double cheeseburgers _without_ exercising
    afterwards).

    Very odd--I've never had any allergies before, nor was I
    (apparently) allergic to either up until a few years ago.
    Worse, I love tomatoes and beef...

    BTW, from what I've read, getting hives _while_ running
    (your case) is much more common than getting them _after_
    running (my case).

    Oh, and I now carry a beesting kit in the car, in case I
    need it after a run. Allergic reactions can be deadly.

    Mike McSwell

  3. Strongyloides, I bet

  4. But i don't get it through weight training or cycling, just running!
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Strongyloides, I bet

  5. [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To,"
    "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

    In article <[email hidden]>, gary

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross
    country running also. I have been recovering for months
    with an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i
    used to be. I used to run for miles & all was ok. My
    mother & grandmother, bith had this problem of circulation
    & itching, especially when getting back into walking,
    running.

    The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body
    starts to get hot, my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs &
    feet begin to go red & itch & i get nauseous, the urge to
    scratch is terrible & end up with severe bruising through
    scratching, nail marks! This happens mostly when going
    down hill. This doesn't happen at all in cycling. This
    feeling is terrible, but it seems to subside the more i
    run, not more distance, but the more short distances
    regularly. For example, before i went away to work abroad,
    i was jogging 3 miles a night to get fit & this never
    affected me! Does anyone have an explination for this!
    Thanks Gary

    Gary,

    Hope this post from a few years ago helps:

    Ozzie

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Robin Day) said:

    I've been back into training about 8 weeks after break of
    a few months. Each morning when I get up I get really
    itchy legs all over for a few minutes - it then goes away
    - This has happened B4 in similar circumstances
    - I doubt it's any allergy type of thing - like to changes
    in soap powder and all that stuff. I's damned annoyying
    - Any Ideas?

    Robin,

    It is normal when coming back to running especially among
    women...and probably if you're in a colder climate. As the
    blood vessels dilate in your peripheral circulatory system,
    the blood flowing through the vessels not yet used to being
    dialated give one the itchy feeling. You can see in some
    women that the legs get splotchy (medical term). The feeling
    is one of having to stop and really scratch the itch or that
    the itch can be so intense that it feels like one is
    breaking out in hives. Often at that point one becomes
    worried and stops running to diminish the itchy feeling.

    Worked through the feeling with one women a number of years
    ago. Because of the itchiness, the doctor prescribed an
    antihistimine for the itchiness. Which only prolonged her
    problem and pushed the natural process of the vessels
    dilating and the itchiness going away.

    At mile 1 the itchiness started and she wanted to stop. We
    continue slowly for about 3 more miles. At mile 3 of the 4,
    the vessels dilated and the itchiness went away. It can be
    irritating...and in her case it was so intense that she
    would stop each time it got that intense, afraid that she
    wouldn't be able to continue and that the intchiness would
    increase proportionately. So it prolonged the breakthrough.

    For many who believe that sweating is unladylike, sweating
    can be a learned reflex. You see some people whose face gets
    beet red. Once they get to the breakthrough point, their
    face finally begins to sweat...usually with a few beads of
    sweat appearing on the nose and then the face breaks into a
    sweat, the water evaporates and cools the blood flowing
    through the vessels....and the flush disappears.

    --
    In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer-
    rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est.
    1975

  6. you would release them more through running. then they re-
    enter through your thighs.

  7. Ozzie Gontang <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To,"
    "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

    In article <[email hidden]>, gary

    Quoted message said:

    Hi Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross
    country running also. I have been recovering for months
    with an ankle injuury, so therefore not as active as i
    used to be. I used to run for miles & all was ok. My
    mother & grandmother, bith had this problem of
    circulation & itching, especially when getting back into
    walking, running.

    Too many toxins in the body, only accelerated all the
    more by streneous physical activity. Best unload prior to
    major efforts.

  8. toxins as in what?, unload as in how?
    Grandepatzer <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Ozzie Gontang <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the
    "To," "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

    In article <[email hidden]>, gary


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Hi Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross
    country running


    also.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have been recovering for months with an ankle
    injuury, so therefore


    not as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    active as i used to be. I used to run for miles & all
    was ok. My mother & grandmother, bith had this problem
    of circulation & itching, especially when getting back
    into walking, running.

    Too many toxins in the body, only accelerated all the more
    by streneous physical activity. Best unload prior to major
    efforts.

  9. Very useful, thanks, i guess it's just a case of running through the
    "itch"barrier!
    Ozzie Gontang <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [[ This message was both posted and mailed: see the "To,"
    "Cc," and "Newsgroups" headers for details. ]]

    In article <[email hidden]>, gary


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Hi Predominantly i am a cyclist, but also enjoy cross
    country running


    also.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I have been recovering for months with an ankle injuury,
    so therefore


    not as

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    active as i used to be. I used to run for miles & all
    was ok. My mother & grandmother, bith had this problem
    of circulation & itching, especially when getting back
    into walking, running.

    The symptoms are, that when i start to jog, when my body
    starts to get


    hot,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    my sides, stomach, buttock & thighs & feet begin to go
    red & itch & i


    get

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    nauseous, the urge to scratch is terrible & end up with
    severe bruising through scratching, nail marks! This
    happens mostly when going down hill. This doesn't happen
    at all in cycling. This feeling is terrible, but it
    seems to subside the more i run, not


    more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    distance, but the more short distances regularly. For
    example, before i


    went

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    away to work abroad, i was jogging 3 miles a night to
    get fit & this


    never

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    affected me! Does anyone have an explination for this!
    Thanks Gary

    Gary,

    Hope this post from a few years ago helps:

    Ozzie

    In article <rday-
    [email hidden]>, [email hidden]

    (Robin Day) said:

    I've been back into training about 8 weeks after break
    of a few months. Each morning when I get up I get really
    itchy legs all over for a few minutes - it then goes
    away - This has happened B4 in similar


    circumstances

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - I doubt it's any allergy type of thing - like to
    changes in soap


    powder

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and all that stuff. I's damned annoyying - Any Ideas?

    Robin,

    It is normal when coming back to running especially among
    women...and probably if you're in a colder climate. As the
    blood vessels dilate in your peripheral circulatory
    system, the blood flowing through the vessels not yet used
    to being dialated give one the itchy feeling. You can see
    in some women that the legs get splotchy (medical term).
    The feeling is one of having to stop and really scratch
    the itch or that the itch can be so intense that it feels
    like one is breaking out in hives. Often at that point one
    becomes worried and stops running to diminish the itchy
    feeling.

    Worked through the feeling with one women a number of
    years ago. Because of the itchiness, the doctor prescribed
    an antihistimine for the itchiness. Which only prolonged
    her problem and pushed the natural process of the vessels
    dilating and the itchiness going away.

    At mile 1 the itchiness started and she wanted to stop.
    We continue slowly for about 3 more miles. At mile 3 of
    the 4, the vessels dilated and the itchiness went away.
    It can be irritating...and in her case it was so intense
    that she would stop each time it got that intense, afraid
    that she wouldn't be able to continue and that the
    intchiness would increase proportionately. So it
    prolonged the breakthrough.

    For many who believe that sweating is unladylike, sweating
    can be a learned reflex. You see some people whose face
    gets beet red. Once they get to the breakthrough point,
    their face finally begins to sweat...usually with a few
    beads of sweat appearing on the nose and then the face
    breaks into a sweat, the water evaporates and cools the
    blood flowing through the vessels....and the flush
    disappears.

    --
    In health and on the run, Ozzie Gontang Maintainer-
    rec.running FAQ Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic,
    est. 1975

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