Running in cross trainers

"simpledog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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I run about 20 miles a week. No variation, same route every day, 4 miles, 5 or 6 days a week.
Problem is I am prone to sprained ankles (I run in the desert). Are there decent 3/4 top cross
trainers that are ok to run in for the distances I'm running?

TIA

Why? You should NOT be wearing cross trainers to run in.

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I run about 20 miles a week. No variation, same route every day, 4 miles, 5 or 6 days a week.
Problem is I am prone to sprained ankles (I run in the desert). Are there decent 3/4 top cross
trainers that are ok to run in for the distances I'm running?

TIA

Crosstrainers are ok if you're doing stuff like aerobics and you run in them *occasionally*, but
they are not designed for every day or every week running: They have the lateral support for sports,
but don't have the pronation support that frequent running requires. Also, running mileage (as
opposed to, say, basketball) in a higher top shoe that rubs against the achilles tendon can be a
cause of AT.

Lyndon "Speed Kills...It kills those that don't have it!" --US Olympic Track Coach Brooks Johnson

"simpledog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

I run about 20 miles a week. No variation, same route every day, 4 miles, 5 or 6 days a week.
Problem is I am prone to sprained ankles (I run in the desert). Are there decent 3/4 top cross
trainers that are ok to run in for the distances I'm running?

TIA

You should be looking at trail running shoes.

Doug, Dot, one of you off-roaders 8^) have any suggestion for brands and models?

simpledog said:

I run about 20 miles a week. No variation, same route every day, 4 miles, 5 or 6 days a week.
Problem is I am prone to sprained ankles (I run in the desert). Are there decent 3/4 top cross
trainers that are ok to run in for the distances I'm running?

TIA

Have you tried ankle/foot strengthening exercises? How about taping? I'd go with either of these
before trying a higher top shoe. [OTOH, I've had achilles problems in the past to the extent where I
couldn't tie my hiking boots because they hit a really sensitive spot, so I feel pain even thinking
about it now.]

I agree with Lyndon in terms of higher topped shoes and achilles. If you get something that comes up
higher, you'd need to be extremely careful about how it hits the achilles area. Many have notches
there; others dig in.

I run mostly trails (or snow covered roads when the snow on trails is deep), but the height of my
trail shoe is the same as any road shoe. If pointy-side up rocks are part of the issue, you might
want to consider a shoe with a protection plate in the forefoot - but only if it's the right type of
shoe for your biomechanics.

I think some strengthening exercises may help, but taping is probably better than high top, IMHO. A
higher top will promote further weakness, I would think. Doug can describe taping better, but
basically, wrap anchor strip around ankle, run more strips from one side of ankle to other going
under the foot, anchor on the other side, run another strip around ankle to hold individual strips
in place. I've been surprised at how well it works. Still lets ankles function but restricts
excessive lateral motion.

Just my $.02.

Dot

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

Ed prochak said:

Doug, Dot, one of you off-roaders 8^) have any suggestion for brands and models?

The trails I run I can run quite nicely with Asics 2080's. I don't own a pair of "trail" shoes.

It's the same with trail as road shoes, you line up your needs with the terrain and your
biomechanics. To be honest, if I was to run a trail with very ugly footing such as sharp rocks
and/or slippery roots I would have to do a lot of homework. I did run a race in Sept. where I ran
for 10 of 11+ hours in sucking mud. I don't think there was any shoe short of track spikes that
would have helped.

--
Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

Doug Freese said:

Ed prochak wrote:

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Doug, Dot, one of you off-roaders 8^) have any suggestion for brands and models?

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The trails I run I can run quite nicely with Asics 2080's. I don't own a pair of "trail" shoes.

i heard they're coming out with 2090's.

personally, i haven't done much trail running but i do have a pair of new balance 805's. they've
been pretty good so far. i even used them on a backpacking trip in the summer. covered 45 miles in
them, carrying 20-30 lbs on the back over 5 days. no blisters, no pains, no problems at all...

jobs

You get simpler results by hitting your legs with a sledgehammer, but faster. Run only in running
shoes if you wish to run for many years.

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You get simpler results by hitting your legs with a sledgehammer, but faster. Run only in running
shoes if you wish to run for many years.

I wouldn't run in cross-trainers either. The repetitive motion and relentless pounding of running is
frankly too extreme. Have you considered wearing those ankle supports they sell, together with good
running shoes?

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Have you tried ankle/foot strengthening exercises? How about taping? I'd go with either of these
before trying a higher top shoe. [OTOH, I've had achilles problems in the past ...

I'm new here and feeling stupid ... what's "OTOH"?

-clueless newbie

clueless newbie said:

I'm new here and feeling stupid ... what's "OTOH"?

On The Other Hand. IMO or IMHO - In My (humble) Opinion. Ther are lots others.

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Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

clueless newbie said:

I'm new here and feeling stupid ... what's "OTOH"?

Don't worry, we all went through this stage at some time 🙂 OTOH = "on the other hand" as Doug
already mentioned

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a list of acronyms and smilies in one place muller-godschalk.comemoticon.htmlOpen ↗

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and some emoticons runnersworld.comemoticons.htmlOpen ↗
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Enjoy!

Dot yep, working up the learning curve and still need to look up stuff on other ng (newsgroups)

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

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Quoted message said:

Have you tried ankle/foot strengthening exercises? How about taping? I'd go with either of these
before trying a higher top shoe. [OTOH, I've had achilles problems in the past ...

I'm new here and feeling stupid ... what's "OTOH"?

-clueless newbie

On The Other Hand

Ed (There are no stupid questions)

Dot said:

A few common ones happy-online.co.ukabbreviations.htmOpen ↗

I took a quick look and found a few that I had not seen. OTOH, just had to do it, I had always
thought ROFL was an extended LOL. Instaed of Laugh Out Loud it was Roar Out F**king Loud. Live
and learn.

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Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

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A few common ones happy-online.co.ukabbreviations.htmOpen ↗

I took a quick look and found a few that I had not seen. OTOH, just had to do it, I had always
thought ROFL was an extended LOL. Instaed of Laugh Out Loud it was Roar Out F**king Loud. Live
and learn.

D*mn Brits, can't get anything straight!

ROFL = Rolling On Floor, Laughing. (Also occasionally written as ROTFL, with the "the"😉

Otherwise, how are you going to make sense of ROFLPIMP? (Rolling on Floor Laughing, Peeing In
My Pants).

DrLith said:

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A few common ones happy-online.co.ukabbreviations.htmOpen ↗

I took a quick look and found a few that I had not seen. OTOH, just had to do it, I had always
thought ROFL was an extended LOL. Instaed of Laugh Out Loud it was Roar Out F**king Loud. Live
and learn.

D*mn Brits, can't get anything straight!

ROFL = Rolling On Floor, Laughing. (Also occasionally written as ROTFL, with the "the"😉

Not sure where Doug's looking since that is what's on the 1st 2 links I posted. Maybe he's been
playing in too much snow. However, I did notice that most of the acronym pages seemed to have .uk
locations. Heck, and I thought we had the market cornered on acronyms 😉 (Interagency or
interdisciplinary meetings are sometimes very interesting until everybody starts speaking same
vocabulary.) Either that, or the Brits are the ones that need the translations. <shrug> 😉

Dot

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Otherwise, how are you going to make sense of ROFLPIMP? (Rolling on Floor Laughing, Peeing In
My Pants).

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope

I can't see where cross trainers would be a problem for you. If the pink lacy panties and leather
bra don't bother you, why should shoes?

Dot said:

Not sure where Doug's looking since that is what's on the 1st 2 links I posted. Maybe he's been
playing in too much snow.

What snow? The 10 inches of snow was dissolved yesterday with an all day rain followed with cold
night to freeze on the roads and create a two hour delay for the schools. My show shoe buds big [censored]
eatin' grins turned to frowns today. Somehow I think they will get the last laugh.

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However, I did notice that most of the acronym pages seemed to have .uk locations. Heck, and I
thought we had the market cornered on acronyms 😉 (Interagency or interdisciplinary meetings are
sometimes very interesting until everybody starts speaking same vocabulary.) Either that, or the
Brits are the ones that need the translations. <shrug> 😉

History says the US of A was established for religious freedom. Not true - we were looking for
language freedom without acronyms.

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Doug Freese "Caveat Lector" [email hidden]

Doug Freese said:

Dot said:

Not sure where Doug's looking since that is what's on the 1st 2 links I posted. Maybe he's been
playing in too much snow.

What snow? The 10 inches of snow was dissolved yesterday with an all day rain followed with cold
night to freeze on the roads and create a two hour delay for the schools. My show shoe buds big
[censored] eatin' grins turned to frowns today.

You all (both you and your snowshoe buds) have my sympathies. We warmed up and had the "r" word in
forecasts, but it never materialized - yet. Getting rain after snow is just plain miserable. I can
only remember one winter where we didn't get rain. We did get about an inch fresh stuff yesterday to
make last night's run really nice (although on roads - more efficient logistically right now for
time, but have 2 wks of not having to go to office where I can do whatever and not have to drag a
bunch of gear to lab.)

Somehow I think they will get the last laugh.

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However, I did notice that most of the acronym pages seemed to have .uk locations. Heck, and I
thought we had the market cornered on acronyms 😉 (Interagency or interdisciplinary meetings are
sometimes very interesting until everybody starts speaking same vocabulary.) Either that, or the
Brits are the ones that need the translations. <shrug> 😉

History says the US of A was established for religious freedom. Not true
- we were looking for language freedom without acronyms.

🙂

Dot

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"Success is different things to different people" -Bernd Heinrich in Racing the Antelope